Dog Sports -Feeding , Nutrition and Training

I believe it's time to add a feeding and nutrition forum related to all dog sports. If forum members wish to discuss nutrition related to training hunting dogs, agility, show dogs, dock dog competition, dog sledding ,skijoring this would be the thread. Nutritional scientific papers could also be posted so that all forum members are kept current with the latest news or breakthroughs. Lets face it not everyone hunts with dogs and this would open up the forum to new readers involved in other dog sports.:thumbup:

Since this topic has always been one of the most divisive on the forum, I don't think it would garner much support.

How many threads on Beneful and Raw Diets have been locked by the mods ?

Dog nutrition seems to be something that should be discussed between themselves and their vet.

I and many others would have much to contribute and invite others to contribute from these dog sports. It's only divisive because of lack of understanding or being closed minded to the subjects presented. Keep in mind you don't need to contribute but read new current updated knowledge being presented by other potential forum members never presented before.. Tons of other dog professionals willing to share knowledge.
This has nothing to do what a vet says but a nutritionist in the field studying working animals that take part in all dog sports. Many topics if not most can become divisive if not understood because of lack of knowledge . Remember that's why we have the mods if rules have been ignored or forgotten and need reminding.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

or being closed minded to the subjects presented.

Many topics if not most can become divisive if not understood because of lack of knowledge .

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and that is how it begins...LOL...

Good effort but no cigar ! LOL It's very easy to pick and choose how yo want it to read to change the entire context. Your a strange cat.

Gotta side with MP on this one.

Numerous threads where one person's opinion of what works for them is "ignorance".

BTW - I've fed old roy to 4 dogs two of which are still alive and they have average life spans of 15 years and counting. A lot of people think because you've done something different, complicated, or more expensive, you've done something 'better'. Not always the case. Now that I've lobbed my grenade, I'm outta here.

Again the thread is Dog Sports other than hunting dogs. This would entail feeding ,nutrition ,training related to OTHER DOG SPORTS. Remember this is Ontario Out of Doors not Ontario Closed Doors. Opens the door to new forum members offering insight to other dog sports. You can continue to go on and on about this dog food thing all you want but the thread is the introduction of other outdoor related dog activities. Cart or rig racing, bikejoring, skijoring, agility, flyball, dock dog competition the list goes on and on. Why would you not include these dog sports and the opportunity not to have new potential members join .

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Again the thread is Dog Sports other than hunting dogs. This would entail feeding ,nutrition ,training related to OTHER DOG SPORTS. Remember this is Ontario Out of Doors not Ontario Closed Doors. Opens the door to new forum members offering insight to other dog sports. You can continue to go on and on about this dog food thing all you want but the thread is the introduction of other outdoor related dog activities. Cart or rig racing, bikejoring, skijoring, agility, flyball, dock dog competition the list goes on and on. Why would you not include these dog sports and the opportunity not to have new potential members join .

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nothing wrong with the above, but HOW do you think to get a lot of those (new) guys talking on this forum? and the posts be better good / somewhat new and they better get going all at once, otherwise the threads will go the same way as they have done in the past.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

BTW - I've fed old roy to 4 dogs two of which are still alive

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Well that's a good sign..LOL

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

Well that's a good sign..LOL

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The ones that aren't alive were born in 1982 and 1992.
The ones that I still have are both born in 2001.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I believe it's time to add a feeding and nutrition forum related to all dog sports. If forum members wish to discuss nutrition related to training hunting dogs, agility, show dogs, dock dog competition, dog sledding ,ski -joring this would be the thread.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Again the thread is Dog Sports other than hunting dogs. This would entail feeding ,nutrition ,training related to OTHER DOG SPORTS. Remember this is Ontario Out of Doors not Ontario Closed Doors. Opens the door to new forum members offering insight to other dog sports. You can continue to go on and on about this dog food thing all you want but the thread is the introduction of other outdoor related dog activities. Cart or rig racing, bikejoring, skijoring, agility, flyball, dock dog competition the list goes on and on. Why would you not include these dog sports and the opportunity not to have new potential members join .

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So what is it Yellow Dog, hunting dogs included or not...you're confusing us ?

You have this all twisted....there already is a 'Forum' called the 'Sporting Dogs' Forum....which entails all things wonderful like " Cart or rig racing, bikejoring, skijoring, agility, flyball, dock dog competition the list goes on and on ". They even kicked out all dogs stuff not related to Sporting.

I'm not even sure what you want from reading your posts, it sounds like your not sure either.

Noticed that the same old same old 'dog food' arguments have cropped up on another thread..why would you think we need a whole forum dedicated to 'Feed and Nutrition' when the topic creates such animosity.

http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...l-gland-issues

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

nothing wrong with the above, but HOW do you think to get a lot of those (new) guys talking on this forum? and the posts be better good / somewhat new and they better get going all at once, otherwise the threads will go the same way as they have done in the past.

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I appreciate the positive reply.Basically it could be under Sporting Dogs but I like Dog Sports better. It would be set up as different dog sport categories so that current forum members and new can click on and contribute to. I have many connections with other dog sport clubs and organizations that I would contact personally and inform them of the dog sports forum.Most of these clubs have scheduled events that they could post on the forum. It would be a very new to most and interesting as well. We would all be informed about other dog sport competitions in Ontario that we would not normally here about and possibly attend.

We would learn about other training methods and conditioning , equipment ,seminars and gain new knowledge . It may spark a new interest during the off season for hunters to keep there dogs in shape as well as themselves. If other forum members would like to add positive ideas on how this could be formatted please contribute. The more positive feedback the better !

so you want our forum being infiltrated by non-hunters?
LOL
hey, a little bit of change and new info is good, but I wonder how many hunters are going to sign up their dogs in Frisbee competitions ;-)
perhaps a thread or two would shed light on how the dog sport topic actually works out on here.

Ontario Out of Doors is only for those who hunt, I did not know that.

Many of my hunting companions are involved in these dog sports already. What a great way to bring them on board.

IMO it is a good suggestion to break out the Dog category into subsections in some form.

It would then become a complete outdoor dog forum with these subsections. I like !

Posts of this nature can go in the Dog House forum as this forum was created as a "Place to post other non-sporting dog related material (news, off topic dog-related stuff)"

That is not what's being proposed or suggested here. What's being proposed(suggested) is Dog Sports with sub sections created for the many outdoor dog sports besides hunting dogs. Is this not the Feedback and Suggestion spot ?

It is common on forums for members to request a variety of sub topics. I've also seen that the more sub topics, the thinner the conversation unless the forum is huge. The dog section is not huge in participation.

In this case , it is tempting to have a "nutrition related to training hunting dogs, agility, show dogs, dock dog competition, dog sledding ,ski -joring " section as it might keep other threads from being hijacked with nutrition related talk. But probably nutrition talk would continue to pop up in most all threads.

I consider "Ontario-Out -of Doors" to be a fishing and hunting forum. If I had my way there wouldn't be a Dog House section , but just a "Hunting and Training your Gun dog" section.

However , no forum will please everyone and I enjoy it as it is.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

I consider "Ontario-Out -of Doors" to be a fishing and hunting forum. If I had my way there wouldn't be a Dog House section , but just a "Hunting and Training your Gun dog" section.

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If I remember Sharon you were one of the ones instrumentally in having the 'Dog House' sub-forum created because folks kept posting threads about silly things about 'mutts having fun' instead of serious stuff like training pure breeds.

Like you said, neither forum gets much traffic these days, less than 15 threads a month in the Sporting Dog forum and less than 10 a month in the Dog Forum means they isn't a huge interest. Creating more sub-forums won't solve that problem.

....."enjoy it as it is"...seems to be the answer.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

It is common on forums for members to request a variety of sub topics. I've also seen that the more sub topics, the thinner the conversation unless the forum is huge. The dog section is not huge in participation.

In this case , it is tempting to have a "nutrition related to training hunting dogs, agility, show dogs, dock dog competition, dog sledding ,ski -joring " section as it might keep other threads from being hijacked with nutrition related talk. But probably nutrition talk would continue to pop up in most all threads.

I consider "Ontario-Out -of Doors" to be a fishing and hunting forum. If I had my way there wouldn't be a Dog House section , but just a "Hunting and Training your Gun dog" section.

However , no forum will please everyone and I enjoy it as it is.

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I understand where you are coming from Sharon but Ontario -Out -of Doors has many meanings depending what your outdoors sport is or interest,camping, rock climbing, hiking, fossil finding, bird watching, trapping etc. By preventing a sub section would completely ignore many other dog related activities and the opportunity for new forum members to grow. What an opportunity for Ontario Out of Doors to expand it's membership and possible advertising dollars with new people. I do not believe the current forum membership would shrink but peak new interest and get away from the same bantering everyday, same topics over and over. You know as well as I do we already have other Hunting and Training forums that already exist. Basically these become just boys clubs and I do not want this to happen to Ontario Out of Doors. If it did people would leave and find another forum to participate in. This is only being suggested given the name of this forum and in my opinion a big opportunity .

If it were to change to a Hunting and Training your Gun dog forum Sharon as your preference and probably others as well the Ontario Out of Doors would loose many members. It would mean many steps back but if it would continue to diversify it would grow steadily. They would be the first. Keeping in mind current forum members would not have to participate but I would be very surprised if they didn't. I have talked to a few current forum members that are very intrigued ,curious and open to learning more about other dog sports.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

If I remember Sharon you were one of the ones instrumentally in having the 'Dog House' sub-forum created because folks kept posting threads about silly things about 'mutts having fun' instead of serious stuff like training pure breeds.

Like you said, neither forum gets much traffic these days, less than 15 threads a month in the Sporting Dog forum and less than 10 a month in the Dog Forum means they isn't a huge interest. Creating more sub-forums won't solve that problem.

....."enjoy it as it is"...seems to be the answer.

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Not so. Cal Tek and I discussed the "problem" and that was the best we could agree on.
He's the boss. :) It has worked not badly.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I understand where you are coming from Sharon but Ontario -Out -of Doors has many meanings depending what your outdoors sport is or interest,camping, rock climbing, hiking, fossil finding, bird watching, trapping etc. By preventing a sub section would completely ignore many other dog related activities and the opportunity for new forum members to grow. What an opportunity for Ontario Out of Doors to expand it's membership and possible advertising dollars with new people. I do not believe the current forum membership would shrink but peak new interest and get away from the same bantering everyday, same topics over and over. You know as well as I do we already have other Hunting and Training forums that already exist. Basically these become just boys clubs and I do not want this to happen to Ontario Out of Doors. If it did people would leave and find another forum to participate in. This is only being suggested given the name of this forum and in my opinion a big opportunity .

If it were to change to a Hunting and Training your Gun dog forum Sharon as your preference and probably others as well the Ontario Out of Doors would loose many members. It would mean many steps back but if it would continue to diversify it would grow steadily. They would be the first. Keeping in mind current forum members would not have to participate but I would be very surprised if they didn't. I have talked to a few current forum members that are very intrigued ,curious and open to learning more about other dog sports.

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The term "Ontario-Out-of Doors" of course has many meanings Vince , but not as it pertains to this forum imo.

"I consider "Ontario-Out -of Doors" forum to be a fishing and hunting forum." quote Sharon Thurs.

** I have said all I want to say so won't be posting further on this topic.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

If I had my way there wouldn't be a Dog House section , but just a "Hunting and Training your Gun dog" section.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

If I remember Sharon you were one of the ones instrumentally in having the 'Dog House' sub-forum created

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Not so. Cal Tek and I discussed it and that was the best we could agree on.

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So how is that "Not So".....your intervention with Caltek resulted in the creation of the "Dog House'.....haha

And looking at your activity in the 'Dog House' forum you seem to be enjoying it so it wasn't a bad decision.

"It has worked not badly. " quote Sharon said above.

( Jay and I don't have interventions. Neither of us have an alcohol or drug problem. ) :moose:

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Originally Posted by Sharon

The term "Ontario-Out-of Doors" of course has many meanings Vince , but not as it pertains to this forum imo.

"I consider "Ontario-Out -of Doors" forum to be a fishing and hunting forum." quote Sharon Thurs.

** I have said all I want to say so won't be posting further on this topic.

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Yes I appreciate your opinion and thankfully we all have them valid or not. Thank you for posting.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

If I remember Sharon you were one of the ones instrumentally in having the 'Dog House' sub-forum created because folks kept posting threads about silly things about 'mutts having fun' instead of serious stuff like training pure breeds.

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LOL those were the days. Some of the "serious" dog folks (that rarely post anyway) would get pretty bent outta shape.

I support your cause YD, just because I like ya. :)

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

I support your cause YD, just because I like ya. :)

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Come on Rick...you just want to see a ' Food and Nutrition' forum so you can apply for the job as a Mod for it...haha

I'll vote for you :)

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