Neat sighting....

Saturday morning I came home around 9:45am to find out that my neighbor had a new pet (I live in town)....
http://vid1056.photobucket.com/album...psx2kauptu.mp4

It didn't worry about me or my dog and just wanted to take a nap at the base of that tree. I wondered what was it doing here until I looked up and saw 3 cubs. I could see all my neighbor had their dogs inside and mine stay far enough, she didn't seem to hurt anyone so far so I decided not to call the cops until 2 or 3pm (before Halloween) to give them a chance to leave in "peace". Few people went by in the street and she didn't care either so I called a buddy and enjoy the show with a few drinks for a couple of hours.

And if you wonder.....
http://vid1056.photobucket.com/album...pscl6tmxbu.mp4


Long story short, they left ( GREAT video from my neighbor)....
http://vid1056.photobucket.com/album...pswnknrete.mp4

Unfortunately, they were back to town a day and a half later and someone was not as friendly as I was..... Bad for hunters again, I hope he had good reason because his neighbor seems to have an issue with his decision but a judge will figure it out.
http://www.muskokaregion.com/news-st...n-bracebridge/
http://www.muskokaregion.com/news-st...-bear-killing/
http://www.muskokaregion.com/news-st...n-bracebridge/

What's really pissing me off, the meat is going to waste!!!

Anyway, beside that I also saw a moose (young cow) on my way to work Friday morning:
http://vid1056.photobucket.com/album...psxijjbqkp.mp4

And a doe, fawn and at least an 8 pointer (60 yards away) from my tree stand Friday evening but my xbow can't reach that far. Plus and extra 7 deer and a couple dozens of turkey on Sunday.

It's a busy time for wild life right now, something must be coming real soon.
Seabast

Good luck with the deer.
To bad about the bear.

Its a shame that bear went to waste but hopefully they can rehab the cubs and turn them loose next spring.

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

Its a shame that bear went to waste but hopefully they can rehab the cubs and turn them loose next spring.

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The sanctuary has already over 40 cubs, I would have never expected that.

And the story is all over the local news this morning.

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Originally Posted by seabast

The sanctuary has already over 40 cubs, I would have never expected that.

And the story is all over the local news this morning.

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Good, maybe people will realize these situations happen because bear populations need managed.
I find it funny that it had to be diposed of by somebody who took it upon himself to since nobody else was gonna do anything about it.

I don't personally consider this criminal (in the sense that i don't believe the man should serve time) but i do believe he should lose his guns and gun-rights, as well as losing his hunter/fishing/trapper rights... all of this is assuming of course that what was publicized is true.

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Originally Posted by seabast

The sanctuary has already over 40 cubs, I would have never expected that.

And the story is all over the local news this morning.

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40 cubs ? that does seem like a lot.

A ton of bears get hit on the road leaving cubs behind and male bears will chase cubs away from females or just kill them to get her to come into heat .so ya that us a lot of cubs but I can see why.way to many bears pretty simple really. .Dutch

City limits or not
There was a sow with Cubs that was clearly not afraid of man
It should have been shot much sooner.
As stated before. They need to manage the population better.
That sow could have seriously injured or killed a wandering child or adult.


Why should he be charged?
For discharging within limits??
Maybe so.

The authorities should have been called to deal with it.


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IMO the MNR is to blame for letting bear populations skyrocket and then doing nothing about it. They have let things go so long with no action people are tired of living with them in town and take matters in to their own hands, imagine what would have happened if a kid ran in to momma bear and she took it as a threat.

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Originally Posted by waltman

IMO the MNR is to blame for letting bear populations skyrocket and then doing nothing about it. They have let things go so long with no action people are tired of living with them in town and take matters in to their own hands, imagine what would have happened if a kid ran in to momma bear and she took it as a threat.

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I don't think there are more bear around this area today than twenty years ago, not sure where you get this from (it isn't Timmins). Guys I know that hunted bear around here in the spring, still hunt them in the fall.
The guy and wife that shot it are also really proud to shoot one of the cub too, let the meat go to waste, didn't cover it and let all the kids of the street see it the next morning (another neighbor cover it for them) and didn't shoot it to protect anything. It might be a good thing they shot it but the all town ran into that bear and cubs for two weeks now without incident so no one really understand... Kind of like, I'm going to shoot the next dog that cross my yard just because it looks dangerous. It's giving us a bad name.

Yea, good to hear shooting firearms in the burbs is frowned upon...

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As a result of the investigation, a 65-year-old male from Bracebridge is charged with careless use of a firearm.

According to Const. Maureen Tilson, of the Bracebridge OPP, a high-power rifle was used.
He will appear in the Ontario Court of Justice in Bracebridge on Dec. 1 to answer to his charges.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Yea, good to hear shooting firearms in the burbs is frowned upon...

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Not to start an argument but, the police are allowed to do it and not necessarily are they as good at shooting and hitting their intended target as a lot of hunters are !

Where my mom is someone took out a nuisance bear in town. Apparently it was already wounded but the bears just take night walks every night through town. And walk up the streets daily. Its only a matter of time before people get frustrated and take action into there own hands.

But taking a momma with a bunch of cubs is not a good thing.

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Originally Posted by stevietangles

City limits or not
There was a sow with Cubs that was clearly not afraid of man
It should have been shot much sooner.
As stated before. They need to manage the population better.
That sow could have seriously injured or killed a wandering child or adult.


Why should he be charged?
For discharging within limits??
Maybe so.

The authorities should have been called to deal with it.


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Agree, the right action was taken dispatching the bear while in a residential area, cubs or no cubs. The cubs would have associated the area with food and would return here or another residential area when older. The only "crime" committed was discharging a firearm within a certain distance of a roadway as well and discharging a firearm within residential limits. I would put good money in the person not getting anymore repercussions, perhaps even having the current charges dropped.

The right action was taken, too bad the opp/mnr dont have the "man power" to deal with these issues which would be the proper plan of action to take and let them deal with this nuisance bear.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Not to start an argument but, the police are allowed to do it and not necessarily are they as good at shooting and hitting their intended target as a lot of hunters are !

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So if you dont want to start an argument, then please dont post idiotic comments. Comparing a hunter to a trained police officer in marksmanship is not an argument worthy of debating in any context. Find something else to spend your time contemplating.

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Originally Posted by Richie Hastings

So if you dont want to start an argument, then please dont post idiotic comments. Comparing a hunter to a trained police officer in marksmanship is not an argument worthy of debating in any context. Find something else to spend your time contemplating.

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LMAO!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Richie Hastings

So if you dont want to start an argument, then please dont post idiotic comments. Comparing a hunter to a trained police officer in marksmanship is not an argument worthy of debating in any context. Find something else to spend your time contemplating.

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I know and have hunted with so called trained in marksmanship police officers, that could not hit the proverbial broad side of the barn.
They used to shoot with us at our club, the damage done in the indoor range was done by "trained in marksmanship police officers " it got so bad they quit coming out on our regular shooting nights.
Also shot against many of them that had joined different clubs in "The Ontario Intercounty Handgun League " in all the years there was only one cop in 9 different clubs that was ever in the top shooters of these clubs.
I was not making any statements that are not true after my "contemplating".
Just 2 years ago , my friends wife hit a deer just outside of the nearby village, he called me to let me know about it , when I arrived there were already 2 cruisers there and 2 cops, I asked when they were going to kill the doe as it was not dead yet, well after walking across the road and advising me to "stay back" the one cop took five shots and missed with all five, and with teary eyes said "I cant hit it " yes this is the truth as my friends wife was a witness ".
I took my .22 call rifle from my vehicle , walked up to the severely wounded deer and placed the barrel up to the deers head and killed it , while being warned by this cop "to watch out it is still alive "

Been there done that , I know what I am talking about!

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Originally Posted by jaycee

I know and have hunted with so called trained in marksmanship police officers, that could not hit the proverbial broad side of the barn.
They used to shoot with us at our club, the damage done in the indoor range was done by "trained in marksmanship police officers " it got so bad they quit coming out on our regular shooting nights.
Also shot against many of them that had joined different clubs in "The Ontario Intercounty Handgun League " in all the years there was only one cop in 9 different clubs that was ever in the top shooters of these clubs.
I was not making any statements that are not true after my "contemplating".
Just 2 years ago , my friends wife hit a deer just outside of the nearby village, he called me to let me know about it , when I arrived there were already 2 cruisers there and 2 cops, I asked when they were going to kill the doe as it was not dead yet, well after walking across the road and advising me to "stay back" the one cop took five shots and missed with all five, and with teary eyes said "I cant hit it " yes this is the truth as my friends wife was a witness ".
I took my .22 call rifle from my vehicle , walked up to the severely wounded deer and placed the barrel up to the deers head and killed it , while being warned by this cop "to watch out it is still alive "

Been there done that , I know what I am talking about!

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Well, that's because there are not trained to shoot in the head, obviously!

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Originally Posted by seabast

And if you wonder.....
http://vid1056.photobucket.com/album...pscl6tmxbu.mp4

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Bears not only $**T in the woods they'll do it in our backyards!

The story COULD have gone like this -

News flash!

A mother and two children were mauled to death, next to their home, by a sow bear with three cubs.

The bear was seen several times in the neighborhood days prior to the attack. A resident hunter near by, said he had seen the bears the night before, but said he did not want to do anything about, it in fear of being charged.

The Ministry, in the past, has also failed to take action when called for similar situations such as this. The Mother and children will be sorely missed.

The ministry, when contacted, stated " they are unsure about how to deal with situations like this, and advise people to shoot bears, that may face a danger to the public.....but....also advise that the shooters will face charges until the ministry spends millions of dollars on a study about how to deal with nuisance deadly animals.

The police have no comment.

The fictitious reporter

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

The story COULD have gone like this -

News flash!

A mother and two children were mauled to death, next to their home, by a sow bear with three cubs.

The bear was seen several times in the neighborhood days prior to the attack. A resident hunter near by, said he had seen the bears the night before, but said he did not want to do anything about, it in fear of being charged.

The Ministry, in the past, has also failed to take action when called for similar situations such as this. The Mother and children will be sorely missed.

The ministry, when contacted, stated " they are unsure about how to deal with situations like this, and advise people to shoot bears, that may face a danger to the public.....but....also advise that the shooters will face charges until the ministry spends millions of dollars on a study about how to deal with nuisance deadly animals.

The police have no comment.

The fictitious reporter

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But in real reality when was the last time a black bear has actually killed a human. I know i haven't heard of anything of that kind on Ontario.

Ok i just looked into the black bear attacks. Ill give it to you this time. Most attacks come when your sleeping so you better watch out.
There's still more of a chance to die in a plane crash than being attacked by bears.

Either way it no reason to just shoot the bears.

Or maybe there's a better chance of getting shot in the controlled hunt . Than being killed by a black bear in Ontario. . .
Sorry but odds are the same.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

But in real reality when was the last time a black bear has actually killed a human. I know i haven't heard of anything of that kind on Ontario.

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It happened in Ontario several years ago in the Chapleau area , a woman doctor from Cambridge Ontario , [practiced at the clinic my family and I go to], was killed by a black bear when she and her husband were on a camping trip. This happened in broad daylight , she was not sleeping.
This had been in most newspapers in this province and out , and on the national news on TV, do you not read newspapers or listen to the news on TV?

few thoughts, all they are are thoughts.

1) Black bear fatalities are rare, but do happen, as jaycee rightfully noted above. I think there was a jogger some years ago as well (could be mistaken, may not have been Ont)...

2) Maulings, are what I might call between uncommon and rare. We don't have to go too far back into the cobwebs of our memories for a recent incident.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...dogs-1.1872827

3) Could things have gone south? yes that's a possibility. Were there any immediate and present signs it was going south? Was anyones well being clearly and unquestionably in danger?

4) Deciding to take action himself, carries a lot of risk and uncertaintity. Things might also have gone this way.
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/201...ed-in-accident

There are reasons for "no discharge" zones.


5) By taking it upon himself, he has now cast a shadow on us all. Ammunition for "anti's".

6) Hunters/Police officers proficiency. Not sure a day will ever come when that debate will be settled. Theres lots of "evidence" to suggest hunters often miss or just wound.....same is true of LEO...Often when they do put down wildlife (bears..or in one case a Moose in North Whitby/Oshawa) all kinds of people (public) had lots to say about the barrage unleashed at it. Will say only, if push comes to shove and its "my" life on the line. Id want the shooter to have shot and killed something. Shooting at paper never replaces or is equivalent to shooting at a living thing, let alone something that can mess you or someone else up big time......Most hunters experience buck fever to one degree or another....

At the end of the day, from what I read...He decided to act, he broke a law....