Anything to worry about here???

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November 12th, 2015, 01:39 PM
Hunter John

Anything to worry about here???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...elty-1.3102399
November 12th, 2015, 01:49 PM
trimmer21

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...elty-1.3102399

I doubt it. As long as a hunter is licensed by the Province and is lawfully hunting,they can't turn around and charge someone under this Act,although,it generally states "....and some wild animals". Don't forget that this is Liberal Quebec with their own rules and regulations ,so,anything can happen.
November 12th, 2015, 02:04 PM
Hunter John

When they include goldfish I get a bit nervous.
November 12th, 2015, 03:51 PM
Snowwalker

If a dog bites me it now gets a criminal record for assault? Because if they are sentient beings, then the dog has the brain power to understand that biting me is assault and it will be charged for it.
November 12th, 2015, 05:36 PM
terrym

Well I always worry when Liberals create laws but I do think that we should treat animals as humanely as possible. A pig is a pig but that doesn't mean it should be tortured before it gets humanely slaughtered for consumption.
November 12th, 2015, 07:22 PM
chayes

I only scanned it over but there should definitely be harsher punishments for people who are cruel to animals..

-People who leave dogs chained outside for months at a time

-Puppy mill breeders

-Slaughterhouses who kill animals inhumanely

etc..

When I cook chicken legs, often I notice broken bones, like the chickens were thrown around and smashed into things before being killed. That's pretty messed up.

I don't think this really applies to hunters but in certain cases maybe it should (if animals aren't being taken down responsibly).
November 12th, 2015, 07:55 PM
GreyTech

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Originally Posted by chayes

I don't think this really applies to hunters but in certain cases maybe it should (if animals aren't being taken down responsibly).

That is walking on very thin ice. Would you like to be charged for a poor shot because the deer moved unexpectedly?
Or because you got poor penetration and the deer was walking around with your arrow in it.
We don't need more laws, we need better education.
November 13th, 2015, 08:17 AM
Fox

These changes in Quebec are to bring them up to the standards of Ontario, Manitoba and BC, I don't see many differences here.
November 13th, 2015, 08:41 AM
Snowwalker

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Originally Posted by chayes

-People who leave dogs chained outside for months at a time
Many people with sled teams keep them chained outside all year. Does not mean that they are mistreating the dogs.
-Slaughterhouses who kill animals inhumanely
When I cook chicken legs, often I notice broken bones, like the chickens were thrown around and smashed into things before being killed. That's pretty messed up.

Why would you "ASSUME' the leg bones where broken before the animal died?

I don't think this really applies to hunters but in certain cases maybe it should (if animals aren't being taken down responsibly).
I can only hope that based on your wild assumptions about dogs and chickens that people like you are not the ones that get to decide what is or is not responsibly.

You seems to be making some very broad generalisations, with very little supporting facts...
November 13th, 2015, 09:37 PM
C.A. in TO

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

If a dog bites me it now gets a criminal record for assault? Because if they are sentient beings, then the dog has the brain power to understand that biting me is assault and it will be charged for it.

I would argue that you are mistaking sentience for competence. Even severely handicapped humans are deemed sentient but not all have competence. Without competence guilt is not assigned for wrongdoing.

On the other hand maybe it could be charged. But surely it would be found not competent
November 13th, 2015, 11:17 PM
Waftrudnir

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Originally Posted by Fox

These changes in Quebec are to bring them up to the standards of Ontario, Manitoba and BC, I don't see many differences here.

I would agree that Quebec is behind in that respect. Problem there (same as here) is that there is a big gap between the rural and urban mindset. Well, if the change is to treat animals better then a piece of junk (which I believe is the intent), I think we should be strongly in favour of this bill.
Unfortunately, the problem is as always that the Antis will exploit everything (no matter how well it was once meant) for their radical and ridiculous ideology. really sad that we have to fear them.
November 13th, 2015, 11:58 PM
chris lavoie

I saw a few TV shows where farm animals were severely mistreated. Including one on chickens. There should be laws protecting domesticated animals. I agree, don't get a gold fish if your not going to take care of it.