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Many in America are calling the bringing of the thousands of refugees to N. America, "Cultural Suicide". Many about to arrive are to infiltrate our society, such as health care, government and, something we are seeing as of late, military.
Many refugees are young muslim males sent by ISIS.
Do you know this to be a fact , or are you just surmising ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lavoie
While I'm sure ISIS will try to get some operatives into various countries by tagging along with migrant hoards... 1] they have no way of knowing which refugees will be directed to particular countries, and 2] screening may be rushed but will still be fairly thorough with the combined assets of numerous intelligence agencies used to help all countries accepting refugees. Don't think for a second that the USA is going to let their neighbours bring in a bunch of terrorists, unfettered. I really doubt more than aa literal handful would get through. And then they would have to be so careful, so squeaky clean for years that we'd be talking decades before they could even begin working a cell.
Also important to note that ISIS requires operatives with passports and clean records with freedom to move around for training and event staging. Refugees don't have these advantages.
Refugee's don't have the freedom of movement at the beginning, but will in six months. Just take a look at any big city. There are more social enclaves built up in any of them. Here in Ottawa we have entire blocks of residential housing made up of Somali's, Iranians, Turks, Pakistani's. etc. Very few speak English, have jobs or cars, but all have Medicare cards, Canadian Passports,receives cheques and vote. We have heard on the news the some school's, restaurants and being bullied into changing menu's and curriculum to accommodate our new found brothers. WHY. Because we have moved too far left. Multi-culture is one thing; bending over and giving in to their beliefs is another. Don't worry my friends, what happened in France, will happen here. It already has, Oct 2014. So to think we are safe and secure, is a false sense of stupid.
Always remember; It takes an armed intruder 15 seconds to kick in your door, rape and kill your whole family, in the name if ALLAH, but 15 minutes for the OPP to respond to a 911 call.
Food for thought.....
Most terrorists are polite, well behaved citizens, just like us. In their twenties Staying out of the radar, they do not have criminal records are well disciplined but have a HATRED for the western society.
It takes at the most,ten terrorists to build and plant IED's which can be built with material found and formulated on the internet,in someones apartment in the middle of Toronto or a garage in Bowmanville,detonated at Oshawa Center,Rogers Center or ACC at a Leafs game by some nut to send shockwaves across the country and around the world as we have seen last night in Paris. These whack jobs are already walking among us. Importing unvetted immigrants only exacerbates the problem. Canadians will rue the day they elected a pacifistic,cowardly Liberal government. It will likely happen sooner rather than later.
Just a quick blurp on the news tonight about the Paris attacks. A passport supposedly held by a Syrian refugee was found in the rubble.
If in fact its true, fast tracking immigrants to various countries will, or a least should take a step back.
There will be no open immigration, no unvetted access according to the Libs recently released plan.
Identification, primary background checks and medical exams will all take place before the refugees are even en route to Canada.
Further security checks will be done once they're here.
Don't worry, be happy, smoke a big fat one. Keep your heads buried in the sand. The media will down play it , truedope will downplay it, Obama will downplay it. Truedope will train them how to roll one !! Obama will promise to do everything in his power to stop them , then actually enable them. For FCK sake , when will people wake up??????
The tv was full of leaders of other countries expressing their outrage and their support of France. Did I miss something? I haven't heard Trudeau say anything publicly.
Sharon, you didn't miss anything. He said the exact same empty platitudes that all other English speaking national leaders did.
That's because nobody can figure out what to tell him to say,yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
you should pay closer attention to his adviser; Omar AlghabraQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
[QUOTE=Sharon;937103 I haven't heard Trudeau say anything publicly.[/QUOTE]
Shhhh, mommy is nursing him right now. He needs his nourishment?
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Originally Posted by waterrat
Well said,and bang on imho...
Again,well said and bang on. But not for the ostriches.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
All before Christmas ??? Do you realize how many people and manpower hours it will take to do what you just described. I haven't seen any job advertisements looking for the MANY EXTRA PEOPLE needed to do this huge task. And if it is done with the current staff it will not be thorough. I can assure you the people behind the scenes that do this job are told to keep quiet because they know many will slip through the cracks to speed things up in order to get them here by Christmas or early in the new year to make the Hairgel kid look good. What a Fooked up place we live i !Quote:
Originally Posted by Oddmott
All these logistical and security concerns are exactly what Harper said all along. Governing is not always about mindless sound bites and selfies. Bill C51 was about enabling improved security from this dangerous cancer not about spying on flip flop wearing left wingers who protest everything Conservative. Yet Canadians decided that Harper was out to destroy the country?
interestingly the comments coming from France aren't about disenfranchised Muslims and a need to get along. It is about hunting them down and killing the enemy. Expect tensions to rise big time all over Europe now, which is what the Jihadists want really.
Not to state the obvious, but here is a bit of back door logic. I just upgraded my Security Clearance. Went to a level or two above Top Secret. I have had said clearance since 1991, always been Canadian, and have a clean record, and worked for the Feds. It took six months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oddmott
There is now way in hell any of the 25000 refugee's will get any type of background check. It will be a free for all. OK folks, get on the plane, sit down-shut up and enjoy the flight. 14 hrs latter, WELCOME to Canada, ya'all are now Canadian. Here is your cheque.
If just one of these "refugees" pulls any of that terrorism BS in this country,Justin Trudeau and his Liberal progressives will have no place to hide from well-deserved blame and scorn Canadians will heap on them. That shyte will stick on him and then until the end of time worse than any long gun registry boondoggle.
For those saying checks won't happen, they've already started. There's been 12,000 syrian refugee applications made to Canada already. The work is being done by a conglomerate of Govts and intelligence services. All the G8 countries accepting refugees are sharing the workload to get these ppl placed.
I think as lowly of Trudeau as anyone. And maybe he is truly dumb enough to believe there is no danger from this influx of Muslims. However, his handlers are not that dumb, and they know for certain that if even ONE of these refugees succeeds in taking lethal, terrorist action on Canadian soil... It's the end of not just pretty pony, but of the entire Liberal Party.
No one is saying checks won't happen but it's the degree or how in depth they go. Anyone can forge documents and remove a questionable past. I'll pass on the Liberal Kool Aid ! Holy Crap !
No the Liberals will find a way to blame Harper.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
There will be no one to blame. Look back at the last year, the Airman who was run over in a parking lot! What did the interrogation yield?? NOTHING, he was dead. The shooter in Ottawa, NOTHING, he to was dead. Don't get wrong, dead is good. All for killing this shiet. But. At the end of the day, until CSIS, CSEC, RCMP, get some teeth, we are fighting a loosing battle.
Flash back to Kubal 2003. Driving down the road, come under fire! Look left, what do you see 15 Mullah's all wearing the same outfit, which one do you shoot.????? It comes down to what will stand up to the CBC news hour. So we shoot none. So who wins, the Mullah.....
It all comes down to this, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim!!!!!!!
Get yourself a ham sandwich, crack a beer, load a gun and watch the shietshow about to unfold....
The refugees will expect us to build them Mosques, give them a prayer room at each school, time off at their job for prayers, they will complain because we say MERRY CHRISTMAS and they WILL GET THEIR WAY!!!
Many refugees will have post tramatic stress syndrome. They will be an instant burden on our health care. Our military is going to be tied up dealing with refugees and will not be available to protect Canada.
Also, way back when, the new immigrants ( polish, Yugoslavs etc) came to Canada and fit right in. They loved Canada. They did not have a hatred for the west.
It was said that the cost of bringing the refugees to Canada will cost over $250,000,000.00. Think if we put that money towards our ailing health care or Canadas infrastructure.
Just something to think about, ISIS butchers innocent people, what do you think they do with all their IDs, passports, other government ID from their victims? With the number of innocents killed in Syria, what happened to their IDs? Given enough of a supply of IDs from honest hard working civilians of Syria with no criminal records, how hard would it be for ISIS to sort through to find one that is a suitable match for one of their members?
A full set of government documents from the Syrian government, and no real way to cross reference each one to determine who is who, don't you think that many of these "refugees" might just be travelling with someone else's documents?
we have entered a new form of war; ghosts among civilized society (western).
so how does one fight them?
Besides letting the foxes in the chicken in the first place like the Liberals and the rest of the bleeding hearts will do,bordering on insanity? This what C-51 was intended to do,find these nutbars that are already among us that are or have already laid out attack plans. It's like playing "whack-a-mole",but,n-o-o-o-o,we can't have any of that "invasion of privacy" stuff. Heaven forbid some weirdo liberal-supporter progressives get their own fingers caught in the wringer. The lady doth protest too much,methinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by poltrojan
JT's actions on this matter are a lot worse than most of you guys think. Yes, rushing refugees through the system is a terrible idea. They need to be properly vetted and monitored so everyone (including the refugees coming in) can live in a safe country. The Liberal mentality on refugees has always been compassion, compassion, compassion and not being tough because you might offend someone and hurt their feelings. The problem with that mentality is it doesn't take much for "the bad guys" to prey on that compassion. It is a great and lofty goal to try to hit the target by Christmas (6 weeks away). However, the reality is 6 weeks isn't a tonne of time to properly screen the amount of people we have committed to come into Canada. Barack Obama (the worldwide liberal (not just Canadian Liberal) poster boy for the past 7 years) made a statement to the world that ISIS (or ISIL) was contained just hours before the attacks on Paris. How long do you think it will take before liberals worldwide make JT their poster boy (it has already started to happen)? It is fine to have these lofty goals and ideals that everyone in the world gets along and we can all skip through the garden of multiculturalism (and maybe one day we will attain that). However, in this day and age thinking this way risks everyone's safety.
Furthermore, JT's actions will have long reaching repercussions. He has publically stated that said Canada has offered “all of our help and our support to the government of France and the people of France at this time.” Well he didn't really mean all of our help and support because he is committed to pulling out our CF-18's from this theatre. Canada has a well documented history of helping France when they come under attack. By not standing with France militarily when they were attacked by ISIS (even Jean Chrétien stood by the US when they were attacked), what are we really telling our NATO allies. What will France say if the shoe is on the other foot (you know China is eyeing our arctic resources)? The Canadian mission (Air support with special forces training the Iraq army) is exactly the right response here. We have to teach these people how to defend themselves and their country. They can't be running away every time a group starts to cause problems.
Also, most western intelligence agencies talk to each other about credible threats. How much intelligence sharing do you think they will do with us when we don't help with a threat which targets all of us? If we aren't going to do the heavy lifting, our allies aren't obliged to help us protect ourselves.
Dyth
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Originally Posted by poltrojan
Don't let them in and make damn sure the ones walking amongst are routed out . I am done with the middle east and the so called religion of peace. The western world would be wise to abandon that shyte hole and leave them to their own devices . Thousands of years this has been going on and people still think we can change it. No fookin chance.
All these migrants I see on tv have cell phones , look well fed/dressed and most seem to be men of prime fighting age .I don't see what could possibly go wrong. Europe may be changed forever with no turning back ,Sweeden will soon be the rape capital of the world WTF.
Everyone in a Liberal riding should be protesting by e-mails and phone calls to their MP and telling them to get Trudeau to change his plans concerning the Syrian immigrants and the pulling out of our fighter jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
The Liberal majority have spoken. Unfortunately we will all be sinking in this BS quicksand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxx
Maybe getting wiped out by a terrorists bomb will be quicker than freezing to death in a devastated economy after Wynne's carbon taxes, Pension scams and Hydro sale ruins our lives.
Just apply as a refugee and you'll get a years grace period on the utilities fees...Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
http://buzzpo.com/this-is-the-most-d...will-ever-see/
Yep , This looks like a good idea.
Yuri Bezemov mentioned that before in 1984 interview about destabilization of country using leftist ideology where multiculturalism is seeping into it. Canada will soon face cultural genocide; question is, will we wake up before it happens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
hence it give a questionable doubt to those who do not recite "O'Canada, we stand on guard for thee"
Possible simple solution!!!!????? Every progressive left leaning idiot, offer to sponsor, house, support, pay all costs, and guarantee NO problems for each of the immigrants they house. If you believe there is a snow balls chance in hel- of that happening, I have a thousand acres of snow covered mountains for sale in the Everglades of Florida.
That's typical of "progressives". They think everything is a good idea as long as someone else does it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bushman
When Canada does something, we all do it , that's the way a democracy works, don't like it then change the rules.
Yeah,it's like watching your brother steal a car. You know it's wrong,but,what are you going to do about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
But you are still family!
Doesn't mean I have to bail him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Need to watch Ezra Levant The Rebel interviewing some of Paris French Muslims. Very interesting and scary on who they blame for the recent terrorist attacks.
I'm fairly certain that if Ezra was to do the same thing,here,he would find that most people are just as misinformed as those folks. Sometimes,it makes one wonder how people function in their day-to-day lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Ckdrnews, our local radio station did a poll as to whether listeners approve the bringing in of refugees to our country. A total of 82% of listeners who responded said "NO", to bringing them into Canada.
Too bad they didn't vote NO when considering the Liberals!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lavoie
It was a protest vote for the libs here. All first nations voted Libs. The money for the Syrians could have gone to integrated the FN into the cities, helping to upgrade the northern reserves etc. I wonder their thoughts now on this issue!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Yes we are a riding that voted Liberal, I did not.
Fear not , Vermillion bay will not see 1 Syrian refugee in the next 1000 years.
As I hope the most of Northern Ontario?
The premiere asked for Thunder Bay to take 25 Syrian families. Mauro said if the government pays, sure!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
Vermilion Bay has been welcoming in the past to refugees, 1980 to be exact!!
At a point in time when we have enormous security threats the voters of Canada chose an imbecile who is best suited as a spokesmodel for a men's wear retailer. He is going to open the gates and let in sleeper Jihadists who will at some point strike and murder innocent people. Well done Canada.
Scary video. I hadn't even thought about the health concerns. JT is on a roll. He get's to play the freindly king which he always felt entitled to be as a Trudeau. Fly around the world and take selfies with fawning idiots. Problem is we have to wear and pay for what he wants to do. God help us.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito