Want to have someone pick me up some 30 caliber bullets from down in the GTA. Will they need to have a PAL? Been too many years since I've bought components.....
Printable View
Want to have someone pick me up some 30 caliber bullets from down in the GTA. Will they need to have a PAL? Been too many years since I've bought components.....
YES , --- according to some dealers .Quote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
If you're into casting your own and looking to find pure lead let me know. I've enough to cast enough jigs to fish all the great lakes.
You don't need them for projectiles as far as I know. I've never been asked for it any how only for powder and primers.
Where are you getting them? I have to go to Williams and Gagnons in Saturday. Can grab stuff if you need.
A buddy just bought a new to him Remington auto 30-06. I wanted his son to pick up some 30 cal slugs so I could load him some ammo to play with. Got jars of brass but only 170 gr 30-30 slugs...I figure that if he has the initiative to get the components then I will load for him. Say hi to John if he is in the store....
My son and I cleaned out the pits at the Port Perry indoor range once. Sifted the sand thru 1/4" screen, took the lead home and melted it into ingots. Still have pails of them......never did get into casting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
That is the beauty of reloading, you are only required to show your PAL when purchasing ammunition. There are some dealers that like to cover their backsides and ask for I.D./ addresses, when selling powder. At gun shows the only time I've been ask for my PAL, is when I actually purchase manufactured ammunition. Components are not ammunition, and so far there is no requirement to show a PAL when purchasing them. The reasons: It maybe that components in and of themselves, cannot be loaded directly into a firearm for immediate use, they have to be assembled into ammunition. Impulsive behaviour that leads to suicide (the number one contributor to firearm deaths), might well be defused by the time you get the components assembled. Nor is it likely that the criminal element in our society would take the time or have any inclination to assemble their own ammunition. One of these days the politicians may wise up to this fact and place a moratorium on ammunition sales instead of simply requiring a PAL to purchases it.
You don't stop hunting because you get old. You get old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
If buying bullets only then no PAL required. Cabelas has them on the shelf just like camo underwear. Loaded rounds of ammo need a PAL.
No PAL for:
Bullet Heads
WADS
Powder (requires drivers license)
Primers
Brass
Shotgun Hulls
I was always amazed while waiting for PAL to come in the mail...I could buy all the parts to make shotgun shells, but could not possess the finished product... my buddy had to take them home once we did a casting and loading session for shotguns.
You can possess ammo without a PAL. You just can't buy it.
I was in the Niagara Region during the holiday and I stopped into Lawry Shooting Sports in Caledonia to pick-up 1000 x .45 ACP 230 Gr RN. Lawry's carry Caliber bullets at a good price.Quote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
Bullets and other material related to reloading are not covered in the Firearms Act. These are covered by the Explosives Act and most retailers will simply want a Driver's License. If someone is going to Lawry's for you it is just as easy to call ahead and talk with Joanne. She is very good and looks after all of the reloading items they sell.
Regardless of the fact that components can be purchased without having to present a PAL some dealers still insist on it . --- I remember an incident , where a fellow (ahead of me in the line-up) was trying to buy air-gun-pellets and the clerk demanded to see a license . --- The two-of-them were hemmn and haawwn about it until I intervened and "educated" the sales-clerk . I sarcastically asked him if he wanted to see my fishing-license because I was acquiring a few lures . --- Unfortunately , not too many people seem to balk at a request like that , soooo --- . General store-policy : Minimum-age of 18 is required for "certain" transactions . The "pellet-purchaser" was at least twice that age . --- It may be easier to go along with their demand BUT stand firm by your rights . --- In the OPs case , since he was sending some-one-else , it might be less aggravating to send some-one who is licensed .
I was always told that you could buy components but not the complete round, that was why I needed to show my PAL to buy BBs. If this guy will get the lead I will give him a couple of boxes of ammo, but he got ten rounds with the gun and might figure he has ample for moose as he only uses one 30-30 round for deer, so he says......
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner 38
Just a bit of further clarification, to demonstrate how different levels of government can mess you up. The federal legislators go out of their way to side step the issue of airguns being classed as "imitation firearms,"
(although there are a few instants where they might be, very few) not so the province of Ontario.
In the province of Ontario low power ariguns that do not require registration are classed as "imitation firearms" and can only be sold to those over the age of 18. As well there is legislation in Ontario that classifies airgun pellets as ammunition and requires that retailers record the identification of all ammunition purchasers.
Thanks for raising this topic, I've always been puzzle how airgun, which can have the realistic appearance of an actual firearm, were not branded by the Feds. as an imitation firearm, and classed "prohibited." Some research, promoted by your comments, has clarified things a bit.
You stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
An imitation gun that is designed to shoot BBs is OK (as long as they are slow BBs), but if the imitation gun is just designed and built to look real, but will not shoot anything, then it is prohibited.... A real gun that has been welded so it cannot do anything, is OK for anyone of any age to play with. Similarly a gun that is designed to look real, but fires blanks or flares seems to be fine for anyone.
Didn't think it was worth a thread of it's own so I looked for one vaguely on topic and on lead.
Reclaiming range lead.
https://youtu.be/fTRwfyvIbkc
I gave up on Range lead and Wheel weights. I bought a wreck sailboat with 400lbs of lead ballast. It was a real bugger to break down the block...but it is all in 1lbs bars now. Boat yards are great place to get lead ballast....pure lead.
BTW, the price of the boat was $0.00, if I took it away.