Trump????

This guy isn't losing any ground and looks like he could very well get the nomination. Is there enough anti establishment and anti political correctness sentiment to actually put this guy in the Whitehouse? Once again it seems like there is no good choice. He's a narcissist loose cannon and Clinton is a snake. The world is getting scary. Merkel will likely get the boot over refugees, America could be run by a nut, N.Korea is run by a madman. Canada is run by a doofus hipster. Nuclear proliferation in the middle East is getting really dangerous. Some day somebody is going to hit Israel with a real bomb and hell will be unleashed. And then you have the Leafs....:ashamed:

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This guy isn't losing any ground and looks like he could very well get the nomination. Is there enough anti establishment and anti political correctness sentiment to actually put this guy in the Whitehouse? Once again it seems like there is no good choice. He's a narcissist loose cannon and Clinton is a snake. The world is getting scary. Merkel will likely get the boot over refugees, America could be run by a nut, N.Korea is run by a madman. Canada is run by a doofus hipster. Nuclear proliferation in the middle East is getting really dangerous. Some day somebody is going to hit Israel with a real bomb and hell will be unleashed. And then you have the Leafs....:ashamed:

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The days of "PC", it's not my fault because daddy did not hug me enough, or mommy hugged me too much are fast coming to an end.

Lots of hurt feeling to come.

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This guy isn't losing any ground and looks like he could very well get the nomination. Is there enough anti establishment and anti political correctness sentiment to actually put this guy in the Whitehouse? Once again it seems like there is no good choice. He's a narcissist loose cannon and Clinton is a snake. The world is getting scary. Merkel will likely get the boot over refugees, America could be run by a nut, N.Korea is run by a madman. Canada is run by a doofus hipster. Nuclear proliferation in the middle East is getting really dangerous. Some day somebody is going to hit Israel with a real bomb and hell will be unleashed. And then you have the Leafs....:ashamed:

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LOL, Go LEAFS Go!

Just have enough food, guns and ammo so when things fall apart you can hang around awhile - Trump is saying what a lot of people want to hear - people are sick and tired of the politicians who do what they want and pay no attention to the voters that put them in office - this is especially true of the crooks in Washington - the only trouble with Trump people aren't sure if he is really a conservative - he wasn't years ago but claims that now he is - maybe he is just saying that - who knows - the one thing Cruz is a genuine conservative - is and has always been - he's my man - interesting times to say the least

Joe, Cruz is a Canadian LOL!

At a family gathering my brother and I were having a lengthy discussion about Trump. The guy is brilliant with the way he is campaigning and has put American politics on it's ear. His manipulation of the Liberal media is masterful in the sense that they are paying for his campaign. Whenever he feels like his is no longer relevant or things may be turning, he makes an off the cuff remark to stir up the media and CNN spends 3 days talking about and analyzing it. Meanwhile, he gets all of this free publicity and doesn't have to buy adds. He's making a total mockery of them. After what the Liberal media did here in the recent election, it's enjoyable to watch.

As JoePa alluded to Trump is saying what people are thinking but afraid to say. Political Correctness has become the "Thought Police" in the classic George Orwell novel "1984" quietly attacking our right of free speech. Trump is taking "Political Correctness" head on with his outrageous remarks. He's made remarks about Muslims, Mexicans etc. and although many remarks are greatly exaggerated he is attacking the political left, the Liberal media while attracting supporters all in one go. Americans great value the right of free speech which they have seen greatly eroded by the likes of Obama and other left wing politicians.

The Republican Party is broken and greatly fractured as is evident by the number of presidential hopefuls and the way the vote is divided. It has been this way since the G.W. Bush Administration. Trump has been a lightning rod for controversy and media attacks, but he has also become the savior for all of those forgotten voters who gave up because they thought nobody was listening. The Republican Party will have to unite in order to defeat Trump for the Republican Nomination. As part of this, they will have to entice some of his supporters which will entail policy and procedural changes such as a return to free speech and a reduction in political correctness.

If you look at Trump so far, he doesn't have any real platform, he just stands at the microphone and seems to make things up as he goes. However, this is all carefully calculated. The summation of our discussion is we feel that Trump is more interested in defeating Hillary Clinton and fixing the Republican Party than he is in becoming president.

What are your thoughts?

Roe+

The reality is people are willing to try him because they know it's going to be really bad if they sign up Hillary.
They'd rather take the chance on Trump, hoping that there's a possibility he will be honest and transparent, despite
whether they support his agenda. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Its Rob Ford all over again, but with nuclear weapons.

picture a jon boat where all the guy sit on the left; you know something is going to happen sooner than later.
now picture someone like Rob Ford or Trump running up and down that little boat.
if these guys don't like the rocking they better move over to the centre!
I guess it is so bad nowadays that a loose cannons cannot do much harm by rocking the boat. If the entire West continues moving farther to the left, we'll all go overboard (port) anyway pretty soon.

My American side of the family and friends explain it this way. Trump tells it like it is and isn't afraid of criticism. The rest of them tell it like they hope it may be to duck anything coming back to stick to them. I'm surprised as anyone,but,there's a real possibility that Trump may be the "real deal" that America sorely needs.

I love trump. Can we trade Trudeau for him?

Has anybody here watched the HBO series "Newsroom" starring Jeff Daniels?

Most or many I'm sure have seen this clip from the series opening scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyzDRc34l2g

In a later episode which focuses on the tea party and its roots, theres some time spent on just how polarized America has become. Given it was made long before Trump surfaced....its kind of scary how it's playing out.

Is it a case of a strong "anti establishment" movement. Or simply, so very many becoming disenfranchised (not all that different) and polarization. Aka has Obama narrowed the gulf, or widened it and worsened it. I think or suspect its more the latter and just more and more people becoming polarized.

We can see it here in Canada, although as always we are about 15-20 years behind.

The US has been a powder keg on a slow burn, for a long time...There are reasons Trump is so popular

Can only imagine Trump winning.....
Can only imagine how things between Cda and the US might go with Trump in the whitehouse and JT in Ottawa..lol

Trump is likely to put that petulant little brat JT over his knee and give him what he should have gotten years ago!

Roe+

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Trump is likely to put that petulant little brat JT over his knee and give him what he should have gotten years ago!

Roe+

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No, you're confusing Trump with Putin. Putin has a spine, brains & brawn.

Trump is a idiotic blowhard with little-to-no substance.

Putin will have naval bases and be drilling for oil in our Arctic before you know it. Maybe JT will visit them with an entourage of hundreds of ecocons and stamp their feet on the ice and "strongly protest". Then they can all take selfies with seals and polar bears, Wendy Mesley and Peter Mansbridge will do a 3 part series on it and the liberals will smile and fawn over JT the messiah. If we are really lucky maybe his wife will write and perform a song. That would be nifty.

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Putin will have naval bases and be drilling for oil in our Arctic before you know it. Maybe JT will visit them with an entourage of hundreds of ecocons and stamp their feet on the ice and "strongly protest". Then they can all take selfies with seals and polar bears, Wendy Mesley and Peter Mansbridge will do a 3 part series on it and the liberals will smile and fawn over JT the messiah. If we are really lucky maybe his wife will write and perform a song. That would be nifty.

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Terry, you're killing me! LOL! They could invite David Suzuki and Paul McCartney!

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Terry, you're killing me! LOL! They could invite David Suzuki and Paul McCartney!

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McCartney and Sophie can do a duet and Suzuki play the harmonica. The Eskimos will be jubilant, likely break out into dance. Mansbridge is probably on his way to Ambercrombie's to get outfitted in a $2k Canada Goose Parka with custom CBC logo. Probably be red in color :silly:

What a bunch of *uck ups !

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No, you're confusing Trump with Putin. Putin has a spine, brains & brawn.

Trump is a idiotic blowhard with little-to-no substance.

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Trying to defend your petulent child again, by changing the subject? He's an intellectual lightweight let alone a political one.

Roe+

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No, you're confusing Trump with Putin. Putin has a spine, brains & brawn.

Trump is a idiotic blowhard with little-to-no substance.

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As for Putin, looks like Russia is happy "Canada is back"...... back on their side I guess... Georgia, support for Assad, Crimean, Ukraine, ally of Iran..... Brian Lilley had a good statement... "known by our friends"
http://www.therebel.media/russia_and...canada_is_back

As for Trump... he might just be the one to take on what needs to be done on immigration, illegals, foreign policy, debt....little regard for political, maybe a bit too much self but alot more results oriented... and for the Democrats Clinton would make what Trudeau will do to Canada look genius I suspect.

Poor trumphttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c88a951753.jpg

It's pretty early for anyone to draw conclusions.

But yes, those that seriously thought the next Hitler is what the majority of the american population wants, are f***ing nuts.

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It's pretty early for anyone to draw conclusions.

But yes, those that seriously thought the next Hitler is what the majority of the american population wants, are f***ing nuts.

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Yep,but,the scary thing is the following this guy has. When he can score as high as he did in a Conservative state like Iowa,even though he came in second,just wait until he gets into "red neck country",to the deep south and south-west,all bets will be off. At this point, I still doubt Republicans can win in November no matter whom they choose because The Democrats will have a lock on everything that's wrong with America and Republicans are the face of the "big business" demon.

I think people are over-rating his loss in Iowa. Cruz got 27.6% and he got 24.3%. They will split the number of delegates
from Iowa going to the National Convention proportionally. Last election there were 28 delegates from Iowa. So Cruz will
have 1 or 2 more delegates than Trump coming from Iowa. Who cares?!? Iowa only makes up 1% of the delegate population
at the national convention.

I'm not siding with Trump. I think they're all not to be trusted. But the news (as usual) is making a big deal out of nothing, to fulfill agendas.

How are delegate numbers going to the Convention decided on per State?
One would think the candidate chosen to run for President would be well know before the Convention based on caucus choices.( I know caucus' vary from State to State - some allow only party members to vote and some allow all State citizens.)

Based on an extensive google search I did yesterday trying to figure all this out, it seems the parties decide the number of delegates per state based on numerous criteria including population, and support for that party in a particular state. Whatever the number is, the delegates get split by proportion. If there's a split, then you can have a coin toss for a particular individual (say you get 50/50 split and have 7 delegates, 3 go one way, 3 go another and the 1 is decided in some places by coin toss).

In the end once you've tallied up all the caucus and primary votes, you basically know who's going to get elected. But here's the crux. Someone might drop out if they see they're not in contention. So who takes those votes? Also, campaigners can go to a non-popular state and spend little time, and move on quick to spend more time in the next state that votes where he/she knows he can gather much more support.

So many possibilities, no one can say Cruz or Trump will take it until key elections like Super Tuesday. That's when I think 12 states have primary elections (different to caucus votes), and a lot of info comes in. It's a complicated, evolving election process. And here you have some news agencies declaring Trump a total loss - they are literally talking about Cruz getting 1 or 2 more delegates, when the national convention will see thousands of delegates.

I kind of like Cruz, maybe he will be a good president watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quOw4dI4Apw

I kinda like Cruz as well but he is a little too churchy for my liking but I am sure that has appeal for many.

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Based on an extensive google search I did yesterday trying to figure all this out, it seems the parties decide the number of delegates per state based on numerous criteria including population, and support for that party in a particular state. Whatever the number is, the delegates get split by proportion. If there's a split, then you can have a coin toss for a particular individual (say you get 50/50 split and have 7 delegates, 3 go one way, 3 go another and the 1 is decided in some places by coin toss).

In the end once you've tallied up all the caucus and primary votes, you basically know who's going to get elected. But here's the crux. Someone might drop out if they see they're not in contention. So who takes those votes? Also, campaigners can go to a non-popular state and spend little time, and move on quick to spend more time in the next state that votes where he/she knows he can gather much more support.

So many possibilities, no one can say Cruz or Trump will take it until key elections like Super Tuesday. That's when I think 12 states have primary elections (different to caucus votes), and a lot of info comes in. It's a complicated, evolving election process. And here you have some news agencies declaring Trump a total loss - they are literally talking about Cruz getting 1 or 2 more delegates, when the national convention will see thousands of delegates.

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Thanks:)

If Trump and Rubio stay in the race along with Cruz and the standings stay roughly the same throughout all the caucuses,by the time they get to the convention and divvy up the delegates,even if Trump is seriously behind the other two,with his extra delegates,it could still make him the "KIng Maker." Now,that's a scary thought.

After Tuesday nights results, the Democratic primaries are now very much a 2 horse race with Sanders showing in Iowa. It will come down to whether or not he can maintain the pace. He is mobilizing the young vote who are easily brainwashed by socialists as was evident in our recent federal election. With Hillary's baggage, it could get interesting, but she has Bill in her corner and I'm sure he's looking forward to a new crop of interns especially since he can get Cuban cigars now.

Going into New Hampshire, Trump has a commanding lead in the poles, but we'll see how that transforms into actual votes. Going forward, Cruz will do well in the Bible belt, Trump should be popular with the rednecks and ultra right wingers, Rubio and Carson will fight it out for 3rd and 4th and will likely become power brokers. Carson could do well with the black vote in the south.

All in all, they are the most interesting primaries in a while.

Roe+

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After Tuesday nights results, the Democratic primaries are now very much a 2 horse race with Sanders showing in Iowa. It will come down to whether or not he can maintain the pace. He is mobilizing the young vote who are easily brainwashed by socialists as was evident in our recent federal election. With Hillary's baggage, it could get interesting, but she has Bill in her corner and I'm sure he's looking forward to a new crop of interns especially since he can get Cuban cigars now.

Going into New Hampshire, Trump has a commanding lead in the poles, but we'll see how that transforms into actual votes. Going forward, Cruz will do well in the Bible belt, Trump should be popular with the rednecks and ultra right wingers, Rubio and Carson will fight it out for 3rd and 4th and will likely become power brokers. Carson could do well with the black vote in the south.

All in all, they are the most interesting primaries in a while.

Roe+

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"Rubio and Carson will fight it out for 3rd and 4th and will likely become power brokers" - exactly. This is what will matter in the end. Cruz and Trump will be close, let's see which one of them can convince Rubio's and Carson's delegates to join their teams.

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Poor trumphttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c88a951753.jpg

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At leas he wasn't beat by an Irishman! LOL!

Roe+