http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada...ise/ar-BBpoKWz
Mandatory Firearms marking to be delayed.
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http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada...ise/ar-BBpoKWz
Mandatory Firearms marking to be delayed.
Does anyone know if this would apply to owners of currently unmarked firearms? For example, would we have to go out and get our existing firearms marked?
Maybe they should tatoo the foreheads of people convicted of firearm crimes. Hey, wait a minute. Lets make gun crime illegal. That would solve it right?
"However, an independent study commissioned by the government said the cost to stamp or engrave markings for Canadian manufacturers and large importers would range from nothing at all to $25 per firearm. It was not possible to gauge the impact on individuals and small importers."
I'd like to see how you stamp/engrave AND blue (or perform modern surface treatment equal in quality to the manufacturers') on an upper end firearm for $25 without reducing its value by a 3 to 4 digit $ figure.
These "news" might look at the facts when it comes to JT promises, but certainly not at the facts when it comes to how stupid it were to implement in Canada a policy for war ridden African countries. It does not even work there, but OUR police desperately needs it:
"There is support among police for the marking scheme in order to expedite investigations into gun crimes and detect firearms trafficking, smuggling and stockpiling, the Public Safety notice says. The import markings can also help law enforcement determine whether to focus on a smuggling operation."Tracing can offer early investigative leads, contribute to cost efficiencies for police by simplifying efforts, focus investigations given that time is critical to solving crimes, and help to build a strong evidentiary case to obtain a conviction," the notice says."
Ever heard of something like an angle grinder, a dremel or a file? Next thing you hear is they want to register ordinary tools to combat smugglers.
Really, can you imagine what they would target if they ever were able to ban legal firearms? All they can do is banning things they don't understand. Well if you cannot cook why should your neighbor be allowed to own a kitchen knife?
This applies to imports of new firearms only,but,it's still stupid. Every firearm already has a serial number. What an extra number is supposed to do,only a flaming Liberal moron would understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by rf2
I haven't read the regulations, but I would be very surprised if it did not apply to future importations of used firearms as well. That's not to say that it would apply retroactively to firearms already in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
If applied retroactively there is potential to ruin the value of older firearms. This would be an issue with many collectors and I see it as a means for the government to treat your property in any way they like. It is analogous to allowing someone to pour herbicide on your lawn because someone is allergic to grass.
...and what about if you travel with your firearms frequently; would it then apply retrospectively?Quote:
Originally Posted by rf2
If yes, you may wonder why you need to accept a depreciation of your property to maintain your right to freely leaf and enter Canada.
If not, then how does it make sense if I don't need the "CA" in front of the number to identify that it is my firearm.
No matter how far left anyone is, to support the UN marking requirement requires one to be brain-dead. Let's see how JT et alia get their neck out of this one; governing is a bit more difficult than campaigning
Waftrudnir, Interesting point, my rifles go to Africa every year ... I would really hate to see some government guy chasing me around the airport with a set of punch and dies!!!
This is the liberals we are talking about? Someone told turdough that is is a good idea and dam the torpedoes, full speed ahead!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
Just for the record, I think the regulations are pointless. Unfortunately, since the regulations are already passed, and we now have a government that appears willing to implement them, I think we are stuck with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
Cuklier, gun control and gun grabbers.... in the news again.... my bets Bernardo out of CFAC... Cuklier in.
http://www.therebel.media/gun_grabbers_on_the_march
Justin Trudeau has said he wants more gun control - he wants hand guns and assault weapons off our streets though I’m not aware of this being an out of control problem.
The gun crime problem we do have in this country is primarily with criminals and gangs shooting up neighbourhoods. They also happen to be the kind of people who don’t and won’t register their guns.
Yes, there are more restricted handguns in Canada yet gun crimes have been going down.
Bill Blair (former Chief of Toronto Police and now a Liberal MP) said when the long gun registry was abolished, there would be “blood in the streets”. Except, there wasn’t.
Sadly, hard facts aren’t going to be what drives this policy decision but rather, worldview. This is all about taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens because, well, the government doesn’t trust the average citizen.
Elections have consequences and the result of the last election is that this new government thinks you shouldn’t have guns and it seems clear that soon they’ll be acting on enforcing that soon.
https://ipolitics.ca/2016/02/11/numb...rs-government/
The number of restricted firearms across Canada rose more than 82 per cent while Prime Minister Stephen Harper was in power, with the sharpest increase after the Conservatives formed a majority government
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Wendy Cukier, president of the Coalition for Gun Control, says the big increase in the number of restricted firearms across Canada is cause for concern.
“At that rate, by 2020 we’ll have doubled the number of restricted weapons in this country than we had in 2009,” Cukier said. “That signals some real issues around licensing and screening practices and how rigorously the requirement that somebody demonstrate a legitimate need for having a restricted (weapon) — how rigorously that provision is being enforced.”
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Cukier, however, says the opposite is true. Over the years, as new firearms hit the market, the Harper government didn’t update the orders-in-council necessary to declare new models restricted, she says
* orders-in-council - how the Liberals reclassified alot of firearms
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“The RCMP have been arguing that there are a number of firearms that are currently sold as unrestricted weapons or restricted weapons that in fact should be prohibited…because they have the features of military assault weapons or were selling sniper rifles as unrestricted weapons because the orders-in-council lists have not been updated for a very long time.”
“We would argue quite the contrary – there are more guns that should be classified as restricted and prohibited.”
Cukier also questions whether proper checks are being done before allowing people to buy restricted guns.
“You’re supposed to have to demonstrate that you need it for your livelihood, typically police and security guards (or) that you are a collector and you have a bona fide collection and you can demonstrate knowledge and expertise that suggests that it is a collection and not just a stockpile (or) you’re a member in good standing of a gun club.”
“Those are the three reasons why you are supposed to have access to a restricted weapon and there is supposed to be a fair amount of rigor applied in ensuring that the criteria that were set out are met.”
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Cukier said her group would like to see Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government repeal Bill C-42, which was passed by the Conservatives, saying it eroded controls on firearms. The coalition also wants the government to upgrade the list of firearms to include those they believe qualify as military style assault weapons, and increase rigour in the licensing process and reintroduce controls on the sales of firearms such as the requirement for stores to keep a record of guns they have sold.
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“In 1989 they at least had a written record of who bought the Ruger mini 14 that was used at Polytechnique so there is a huge vacuum in the tracking of gun sales which means that we are no longer in compliance with our international obligations to help combat the illegal gun trade.”
Blaming Harper, orders in council, Cuklier... ignoring the fact they are legal owners, crime is declining etc.... sniper rifle.... there goes my wish list...
(but I did kinda want a Pedersolli with a sniper scope...
http://www.namlhunt.com/uploads/3/4/...4_orig.jpg?744
or Sharps https://weaponsandwarfare.files.word...ooter-1863.jpg)
Let's see... Enfield, Mosin Nagant, Mauser, Model 700, Sharps, Ross.... I could fill a page with rifles used as SNIPER rifles....
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/sniper-rifles.asp
rants and misrepresentations, ignoring reality and fear mongering.. yep Liberals are in power again :whacked: