Oh look, a bunch of Kathleen Wynne's new best friends were just arrested. Wonder when the police will start picking up our Ontario Liberal crooks? How many investigations do we have ongoing now?
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/03/17...-charges-filed
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Oh look, a bunch of Kathleen Wynne's new best friends were just arrested. Wonder when the police will start picking up our Ontario Liberal crooks? How many investigations do we have ongoing now?
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/03/17...-charges-filed
You think all Liberals, know, like each other, think alike, same amount of honesty, because of their political affiliation, how sad.
No surprise.
The one's in office? Yes. ADSCAM, Swawinigate, Ehealth, ORNGE, GEA, Sudbury By election, Gas Plants. What is the common denominator here? Wynne is best buds with Couillard in Quebec.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Dirty politicians...who'd a thunk? Nah, Politicians/Unions they ain't like everyone else.....especially when the game is power and money...
I know I know I hate PS and want to tear them apart, drag them down for that or knowing theres room for cuts...savings. Just mention that word though and...Which is ironic given well now we know, some won't mind at all cutting funding from X..
Pretty sure most social workers don't earn 80k.
Pick any area, anything...to reduce the funding and you are laying off lots. Only alternative are hammer people more, or reduce govt cost but avoid layoffs as much as possible.
And it's also unacceptable to use the power of influence to favour elections.
How much influence to Unions have?
The only thing that might be interesting is how many heads roll.
Oh and G.
While I agree in some ways..
"best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour"
I think is how the saying goes....
really, about the only interesting thing for me, is and will be how many heads.
So Jben are you suggesting that public service employees have as much influence or are as corrupt as politicians? Your posts are becoming more and more disjointed as is your credibility.
What I want to know is ,who is G ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JBen
Me......
Hmmm.
Are you suggesting everyone who works at a bank, is a crook because the some guy high up runs a Ponzi Scheme ( Madoff) or when on the rare (do note how rare that it is by comparison btw) occasions "Wall Street" gets tarred? Nah, I think I know you better.
Are you suggesting I haven't I tried very hard to always make it clear. Theres a difference between PS and PS Unions, or have you forgotten just how many of my friends are PS. Nah, you couldn't be suggesting that I think for example my uncles are crooked. That those I hunt with aren't just as "fed up" with Ms Wynne and the Liberals and some of the Unions stuff. Are you suggesting that I don't know not every PS joins them on the lines or at the ballot box? beginning to wonder.
Are you suggesting that the Unions don't influence elections?
Don't know what all those ad dollars and more do?
Are you suggesting and Im going to quote myself.
"Dirty Politicians/Unions they aren't like everyone else, especially when the game is power and money" that you misread the word Union and somehow read the word PS employee's.
Do note also Sawbill that unlike everyone else I also said
Politicians.....not Liberals
funny all of that
Oh Ok ! I thought maybe he was referring to himself like the Seinfeld eposode . Jimmy likes Elaine.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yes , JB I must say, you have always been non-partisan in your condemnation of all crooked politicians.
Thanks G.
reality is, there 2 maybe 3 closely related topics.
1) this admin at QP and all that entails. So discussions around that, will inevitably bring up a few things, the usual kind of waste, the braincramps, the astronomical amount blown over and above the usual kinds of waste we see from all, the corruption. It will take a lot and I do mean a lot to ever get me to change my mind about the corruption. Btw the very definition of policial corruption....well google it. Pandering to Unions is prominently mentioned.
At the very least, the Unions are culpable simply for supporting/campaigning (the chief elections officer is concerned about their ads, spending, 3rd parties.....speaks volumes) for them and reaping benefits. Funny despite all their double speak about all the evils of Mike Harris....it didn't take long for the public to realize that yep, it was time to put a stop to it. Yet, now that things are reversed and it's the public taking it on the chin (and this includes many in PS now to)...nope just mention the need and well....
2) what can be done
a) wait for the economy to boom? Well it's been 8 years, no-one is predicting it (economist are kind of like weather men, no one can really predict it) but when the vast majority agree on something...
b) currently the prov rakes in ( 120 now I believe) and we still have a deficit (do we know if they like most haven't done some creating accounting?). Even if or when they balance the budget finally, there's still going to be 300b debt hanging over our heads. A debt to gdp of 40% and times aren't booming.... Even the auditor general can't find anything good to say about them. And still there are those who will keep them in power at all cost.
c) any reduction, any shaving off of spending means cuts to PS. Think they are spending a little too much on Y, well guess what people will lose jobs, if no one is willing to reduce salaries or benefits. Only other way to balance the budget.....God forbid reduce the debt is hammer people already......
"PS" is a big word. I'm sure there are savings to be had. They "could" change every pension to DCPs tomorrow without hurting those currently, but new hires and save a ton.......have fun the fight will be huge..
when the "envy" topic comes up, it is what it is. Does a janitor have it somewhat better than a janitor in private? Yep. How much is that really saying though.....
more and more shopping at Walmart
And no-one too blame but.
JBen go to bed. :)
Lol GF won't let me.
If you can't tell YD, and pretty tired am people putting words in my mouth.
My stance has always been the same.
And truth is, most of this (including the backlash and or prices for "PS" was predicted a long time ago. Trimmer, Terryy, myself, some others. Many didn't like to hear it then, some still don't.