Does anyone have any recommendations for hunting retriever either yellow lab or Nova Scotia duck toller. Not looking for a show dog looking for a working dog.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for hunting retriever either yellow lab or Nova Scotia duck toller. Not looking for a show dog looking for a working dog.
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Contact Scott Rumble, just google him
Lots of working breeders listed on the National Retriever Club of Canada's website http://www.nrcc-canada.com/breeders.html
Litter announcements also come up regularly here: http://www.canadianhuntingdogs.com/f...uppies-Litters
Scott Rumble just had a litter.
I got my dog from Luke Sherders - they make good dogs.
Lots of suggestions here:
http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...3-Lab-breeders
If you hunt go with a black lab, beautiful dogs and the best of the breed, change colour if you want a pet.Not saying yellow's aren't awesome dogs as well, just my opinion.
Founded on what? I have had many labs over the years and cannot make the same assumption as you? I think the most important thing is to go with a reputable breeder and a good bloodline. One of the best labs I have ever seen is a chocolate.Quote:
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I'll go get the popcorn started...
buttered??
and beer please!
Dick
It all depends on the dog. I've seen good and bad black labs, good and bad yellow labs, and good and bad chocolate labs.Quote:
Originally Posted by redwil
I'd put much more stock into bloodline/lineage.
-Nick
all dogs want to be labs and all labs want to be black ;)
Colour does not have anything to do with ability to huntQuote:
Originally Posted by redwil
lol .......Quote:
Originally Posted by bardern
The above comment is fairly accurate after seeing many dogs.......but in the retriever world black labs rule followed by yellows and almost no chocolates in competition which is the essence of breeding behind our hunting dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprite
Does it mean that a black dog would always turn out with hunting drive and brains, of course not but on average the pedigree holds true so be sure to do your homework when selecting a dog. It goes without saying that you've also checked the warranty and health clearances.
Someone was bound to say it...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bardern
Go on http://www.canadianhuntingdogs.com and see what's available. You had good suggestions as to Scott and Luke. You can find a dog who was in Hunt test and Field trials and no longer competing at times, they make great hunting dogs and companions.
not sure where that comment comes from or what it might be based on as one litter may have blacks , yellows or chocolates in it . Its just hair colour not temperament , bloodline or desireQuote:
Originally Posted by redwil
I don't have experience with labs of any color. But when you say "black labs rule in the retriever world" do you consider the fact there are more black labs than choclate/yellow by quite a margin?
Yes to be sure I considered that but it's still a fact. Doesn't mean we all have to go black though. Guess I should update my avatar, you'd see a black, yellows and even a golden if you can imagine!
Now you just need a Chessie!!!!!Quote:
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You got one, that's good for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by brent
Nice boat you have for sale....better keep it.
Radar Trap. The field trial/ hunt test season gets underway in a few weeks. Try to get to an event near you. Talk to people and see dogs run. You will be more likely to find a good litter this way, and maybe connect with people who can help along the way.
Labber where can a fella get a list of field trial/hunt events. do they do any in southwestern ontatio?
this may be a stupid question but why are chocolate labs not a good duck dog? I bet some are good no question, I tried to research it a bit and got a lot of mixed feedback. I was looking at a lady that breeds mostly English chocs she said the dame was from a long hunt line way back in the day, but most pups are sold now as house pets, should I stay away from those?
any good chessie breeders in Ontario, I kinda want one.
Field Trial Schedule: http://www.nrcc-canada.com/field-tri...-ft-sched.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Troutkiller
First one is this weekend is in Niagara, weather is looking good and running lists just got posted this morning.
Hunt Test Schedule: http://www.nrcc-canada.com/hunt-test...-ht-sched.html
Troutkiller the National, Retriever Club of Canada lists thoroughly all CKC Field Trial and Hunt tests events under their category headings.
It's a great place to start, if you are looking for people to direct you into retrievers that are bred for work.
http://www.nrcc-canada.com/
This forum (OOD)is a good place to pick peoples brains. But you will get a wide variety of opinions. Everyone is certain of their opinion.
The Canadian hunting dog forum is where people who are serious about training eventually wind up.
I'm not sure what Hunt tests are in your area, but I think there are a few. You are not far from Michigan. Michigan has a pile of HT and FT's. Go to Entry Express for US listings.
The nearest Field Trial to you takes place May 14-15 in Melbourne, Ont. There will be a pile of great trial dogs there. Best to get there early Saturday. Tell someone there that you are new and interested. Somebody will be glad to give you their time, unless they are getting their game face on. The club that I belong to, The Niagara Peninsula Retriever training club, is holding its annual Field Trial this weekend, in the area of Allanburg, where Hwy 20 crosses the welland canal. Look for rustic signage and orange ribbons. Signs that say OPEN or Amateur or Qualifying or Junior, will point you in the right direction.
Your question is not stupid, but it's a HOT POTATOE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Troutkiller
There are a ton of GREAT Choco hunting dogs out there. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
However......there are even more that can't do what a good hunting dog should. And there are just as many blacks and yellows that aren't worth having.
The issue is color in only one sense. It's hard to find a well bred (working) lab (of any color). Most of them have had the brains and hunt bred out of them by breeders that are convinced that how a dog looks, matters more than how trainable they are. I see the limitations of these dogs all the time. A good chocolate, bred for brains is hardest to find of all. But they are out there, if you know where to look, and you are patient.
So called "English dogs" are something I would stay away from, only because everyone is claiming some sort of English standard that most Englishmen would have no part of, and I wouldn't know who to believe. I know that the "English Labs" I've seen over here look nothing like the ones I've seen working over there. When you hear "English Lab, think Show dog with a bigger price tag.
Forget about color. Get to a hunt test or field trial. talk to people who have been at it a while and you will do better than 99% of first time "hunting Lab" puppy buyers.
This should stir up some opinions.
As far as Chessies go, it's the same as the chocolate labs, but probably to a lesser extent. If it's the breed you want, then go to a hunt test or FT. If you can find a working chessie, performing with the best of the labs, talk to that person.
There iare some great discussions about Chessies on Retriever Training Forum. A US based Retriever discussion board.
As hard as it can be to find a good dog that makes training fun, it is just as hard to protect yourself against health issues in Labs and Chessies. That is another ball of wax. Get yourself informed before you put a dime on any litter.
I have one of these beautiful working imported English Labrador Retrievers out of a 40 year breeding program and couldn't be happier . She is strictly out of proven working titled dogs and she has exceeded all my expectations. People need to understand the U.K Labrador Retriever bloodlines also have show lines and working lines and are distinctly very different animals . In Canada and the U.S we also have Labrador Retriever show and working lines. I have found some people to say they have a British working dog when in fact after looking at the pedigree only one or two dogs in the pedigree that were of British descent six or seven generations back and the rest are American dogs. People need to educate themselves and believe I may be the only person in Ontario that has the only imported British Lab out of proven working bloodlines. I know a few of the show kennels that have imported British show lines but not the working lines. Good luck in your search I am sure you will be able to find a Lab locally.