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14 days ago I sold my faithful (19 year-old) 15 HP Suzuki and bought a brand-new 25 HP Evinrude E-TEC . :happy: --- *** --- What a difference ! --- I've previously owned outboards that developed from 2 to 120 HP BUT have never experienced a 25 HP motor with THIS MUCH torque . --- Whoooofff --- I bet it would even "handle" a slalom-skier . --- The boat (14' deep-V) was loaded with 2 persons (400 + lbs) , 2 tanks of gas (un-necessary) , assorted fishing-gear , paddles , anchor , instruments (Sonar , GPS and two-way-radio) etc. --- In other words : FAIRLY HEAVY . --- Within ~ 2.5 seconds it planed , topping at 41 clicks . --- With me (alone) it would probably hit 50 kms/hr . --- Will check that tomorrow . --- Whisper-quiet , no fumes no oil-slicks . Gas- and oil-consumption negligible . Beats any 4-cycle . --- The evolution of the 2-cycle-engine . --- Almost 200 fewer parts than a 4-cycle . --- 3 years (or 300 hrs) no scheduled maintenance . --- Whewww --- Having been a mechanic , I appreciate that . --- During the last ~ 6 decades I've owned and operated 4 Evinrudes , 1 Johnson , 1 Chrysler , 1 Suzuki and NOW 1 Evinrude (again) . --- I haven't been as enthusiastic about any of the other engines (all of them were good) . --- *** --- I must admit I'm a bit apprehensive in regard to all the electronic crap this new engine employs . Web-research and "pumping" outboard-mechanics re-assured me (really ???) that my choice was a good-one . --- What can you guys tell me ?

I know 3 people with those motors and all 3 have had issues...

Lots of torq n lowend but
How does it troll down for long periods of time...... Does it get rough need to go for a high speed tour ???????

Fantastic motors. I've owned a 90, 150 and now a 225HO. Enjoy the new motor :).

My fishing buddy has one, a 75hp, and its been in the shop at least twice a year for the past 3 years for faulty computers and sensors.

SOFAR , --- I've put ~ 55 hrs. on it and am "tickled-pink" ! --- After experimenting with height and trim the achieved performance-level increased a bit as well . --- Loaded with 2 people (~ 400lbs.) , assorted gear , a couple of tanks etc. I'm "hitting" 42.8 kms/hr. (measured by GPS) . --- Trolling from Point Anne (Belleville) to Napanee (and back again) on less than a 1/4 tank (including a 5 click WOT stretch) is IMO excellent performance . --- It never missed a beat . --- As I've indicated originally I'm a bit apprehensive regarding the electronic "crap" BUT what can I say ?

I have a 75 etec tiller. It was just in for its 6 year tune up. No issues whatsoever. This motor sips gas and oil. No fumes or slick as previously posted. It trolls down and will troll all day with not a hiccup. I imagine the 25 will be the same. I was always a Merc fan. I'm very impressed with this motor. I looked at a four stroke, but the weight difference swayed me over to the etec.

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Fantastic motors. I've owned a 90, 150 and now a 225HO. Enjoy the new motor :).

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When I see a report like yours about a new design I always wonder why so many?

90 was on my first boat, sold it bought another with a 150. Sold that boat and bought a bigger one. Pretty simple why so many


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Have a 50hp going on 7 years now on my 18' Crestliner tiller, no problems, fog the engine before storage in the winter. Serviced last winter at Proctor's, replaced the impeller and changed the gear oil. Over 300 hours on it, never in the shop, will troll at 2-2.5mph, top end 30mph with 3 adults and fishing gear, can run out 12-14 miles and troll for 6-8 hrs and back in on less than 5 gallons of fuel. Pretty intrigued by the 60hp HO. My 50 was originally on a 16' tiller, always like to max on the hp rating.

Had the new 60 ETEC HO out for it's first run last Sunday on Erie. East wind picked up for the run back west from Sandhills, running in 5-6 footers from the stern. The motor is a beast, at least 50% more torque than the 50hp ETEC. Lots of power and easy to control through the swells. I'd definitely recommend the HO option if you're looking to repower and want to max out your rated HP.

Just a "follow-up" to my original post . --- In the mean-time I've "put" ~ 90 hrs. on the motor and couldn't be more satisfied (with it) . --- After some experimentation : Mounting-height , different props etc. the performance-level increased as well . --- The "hole-shot" is impressive and top-speed hovers around 46.2 clicks . --- Consumption (fuel and oil) is negligible . Fewer fumes than a 4-cycle (as certified by State-agencies in California and Europe) . --- Whisper-quiet . --- "One-pull-starts" . --- *** --- I'm in love (with that engine) .--- LOL !

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90 was on my first boat, sold it bought another with a 150. Sold that boat and bought a bigger one. Pretty simple why so many


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that's what I thought, I have a 40 mariner (yamaha built) on my aluminium older runabout...I would like some 50 e tec pop on that thing lol

Proctor Marine in Simcoe has my 2009 50hp ETEC I traded in on the new one, has a little over 300 hrs on it. They said the expected life is about 1000 hrs. Bit of a drive from you. It's a bolt on install. They gave me $3000 trade in value.

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Proctor Marine in Simcoe has my 2009 50hp ETEC I traded in on the new one, has a little over 300 hrs on it. They said the expected life is about 1000 hrs. Bit of a drive from you. It's a bolt on install. They gave me $3000 trade in value.

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An 09 with ONLY 300hrs. ? That's barely broken-in . --- Are you sure you need a new motor ? I'm baffled . --- Since June 6. I've put ~ 90 hrs. on mine . --- According to many reports , as well as outboard-mechanics , they'll last more than 3000 hrs. . --- How could an "ethical" dealer feed you crap like this ?

I didn't need a new motor. I wanted a new motor. The 50hp was originally on a 16' boat and maxed the HP rating, moved it up to an 18' boat with a max hp rating of 70HP. Just got a new 18' boat and figured I'd upgrade the motor too. I've liked the ETEC but they don't make and 70 and the 75 is over the boat's rating.
So short story long went with the 60HO.
The dealer has been selling boats and motors for over 60 years. He wasn't trying to sell me a new motor. I'd just asked how many hours you can typically get on a motor before you'd anticipate some more major work needed. Would've been another 14 years with my rate of use
Sorry to baffle you.

I've only seen one issue (mechanical) with any of the 4 strokes. It was a OEM powerhead that was bad from the factory.
It was replaced under warranty.

The other complaints were from leaving fuel in the system for periods of time. Mostly just hard starts after a week or two of setting up.
Never any problem when used weekly. All were larger motors generally 150 up and on tournament rigs.

Lots of Hondas, Evinrudes and Mercs in use back home and most wouldn't go back to the 2 strokes.

I think you will be well pleased. Perhaps consider the fuel retention/gumming or whatever when leaving it idle/stored for periods of time, maybe ask dealer or research internet. Most, as far as I know simply run the fuel out if it is to be unused for over a week.

Sounds like you have thought things out and have everything setup well to optimize hull/ motor performance. now enjoy!

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I've only seen one issue (mechanical) with any of the 4 strokes. It was a OEM powerhead that was bad from the factory.
It was replaced under warranty.

The other complaints were from leaving fuel in the system for periods of time. Mostly just hard starts after a week or two of setting up.
Never any problem when used weekly. All were larger motors generally 150 up and on tournament rigs.

Lots of Hondas, Evinrudes and Mercs in use back home and most wouldn't go back to the 2 strokes.

I think you will be well pleased. Perhaps consider the fuel retention/gumming or whatever when leaving it idle/stored for periods of time, maybe ask dealer or research internet. Most, as far as I know simply run the fuel out if it is to be unused for over a week.

Sounds like you have thought things out and have everything setup well to optimize hull/ motor performance. now enjoy!

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What are you talking about , pilot ? --- be2man purchased a 2-stroke ! --- 60HO stands for 60 HP High output (that's an Evinrude E-Tec) . --- Before criticizing any type of engine you should know enough to warrant it . --- Generally speaking , most modern outboards tend to be GOOD ; however , some are better than others . The E-Tec is one of them !

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Most, as far as I know simply run the fuel out if it is to be unused for over a week.

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--- *** --- Another thing I should've mentioned : You don't "run a fuel-injected-system " dry ; even if the unit is "parked" for the winter-hibernation . It's a completely sealed system with NO access to air . --- Just add a sufficient amount of fuel-stabilizer (to the tank) and run the engine for ~ 10 minutes . THEN "winterize" the engine (which the E-Tec does automatically if you employ the proper procedure) . --- It takes less than 5 minutes . --- Needless to mention that this is only necessary if the engine is laid-up for a long time .

Sorry, I misread the OP.