Looking at a new with the works tohatsu 30 hp tiller. They aren't a reclothed merc anymore. So I'm told. Anyone know about their quality?
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Looking at a new with the works tohatsu 30 hp tiller. They aren't a reclothed merc anymore. So I'm told. Anyone know about their quality?
Tohatsu builds small motors for Mercury.
Buy it and then you can be the first to write up a full report on it !
I bought a 25 4 stroke brand new in 2012 for my pontoon.
I haven't had any issues whatsoever, still running like a top.
I understood that they made motors for Mercury as well.
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I'm told they had a relationship with merc till late 014, but not nowQuote:
Originally Posted by stragglelake
Can you get parts?
From what I understand they were supplying the motors to merc so if merc got out of the relationship it really has no effect on tohatso.
I'm up north this week. I'll check with my marina who sells tohatsu and ask about parts.
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Dealer sells tohat, yam, and one other I can't remember. He says out of the 3 the tohat is what he'll stay with if he ever picks just one. Say's yam can't be talked to. I know that personally. Says tohat is good. Why are most outboard comps talking about water pump change each year? Are they nucking futs?Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
Rented a 15hp from a lodge for a week. It worked fine for me, although it did idle very fast. I am sure this can be adjusted, however I wasnt about to play around with a rental motor. The lodge owner lovers them, says very reliable.
My understanding is they currently have an agreement with Evinrude, although that could be wrong.
How I here it is that tohatsu and nissan are in bed now. That's what I worry about. My 20 merc just barely gets me to troll. And by that I'm not even talking a nice slow trout troll. So even though this thing runs smoother with a third cylinder is my troll speed not going to be more if for no other reason that bigger/higher pitch prop moves more water?Quote:
Originally Posted by blasted_saber
It's fun to have all that up top speed, but do I lose my bottom. Secondly my big boats that had power tilt meant that you didn't dare hit a rock cause they wouldn't do the old auto flip up. Would that not be true also of this 30 if power tilt?
Tohatsu has been building outboards for Mercury and Nissan for ages already and has been selling motors under their own name as well . --- The smaller Evinrudes (15HP and down) are built by Tohatsu . --- The 15HO is an exception; that one is an Evinrude E-TEC . It's essentially a "detuned" 25/30HP E-TEC . Naturally , the price-tag is MUCH higher than the one of the Tohatsu-built-engine . --- They simply aren't in the same league. --- Now-a days , most outboards are pretty good and reliable ; however , if you want the best and don't mind to spend a bit more buy an E-TEC . They "beat" any currently available motor performance-wise , use less fuel and oil , passed the most stringent (California and EU) tests for "cleanliness" and are "whisper-quiet" . --- I bought a 25HP E-TEC .--- A-1 !!! --- They are manufactured in Sturtevant , Wisconsin . All the others are foreign-built .
Curious why you would look at a Tohatsu, which is sorta an unknown entity when you could be considering Yam, Evinrude, Honda etc. Is it a price difference or just wanting to try something different?
I hated the last E-Tec I used extensively. 2009 model 90HP. It ate a jug of $50 oil every 30 hours of use. Bleh. Underpowered too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner 38
This motor was properly maintained and broken in as well. The dealer told em their was nothing worng with. Traded it in on a Yamaha and havent regretted the move one bit.
Yam dropped me on my head a couple months back worse than any comp has. So the big guys aren't necesarily my "GO TO" any more. They've lost the rightQuote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
I will echo that. I hear techs everywhere curse etecQuote:
Originally Posted by blasted_saber
Have you talked to Aim marine? He's been selling them for a long time
I've owned and operated a number of outboards (during the last 6 decades) All of them were good but my current E-TEC is simply better (in many aspects) . When they replaced the Ficht (with the E-TEC) they experienced some "teething-problems" which were quickly "eradicated" . --- The "so-called" techs that are bad-mouthing the E-TEC apparently didn't attend the necessary courses . E-TECs require a relatively higher sophistication-level (in order to "mess" with them) than the simpler engines . --- I'm not "coming down" on any modern outboard (I like all of them) but that still doesn't mean that all are equal . --- Generally , the Yamaha is the "lamest" of them . Had I decided to get a 4-cycle it would have been a Suzuki (the best of the 4's) . --- Despite the fact that I was a licensed (certified) gas- and Diesel-mechanic I wouldn't be qualified to "play" with these intricate electronic systems because of a lack of training as well as diagnostic-equipment . --- My advice : Purchase what you're most comfortable with and what dealer would give you the best service . --- You can't really go wrong with any of them (aside from cheap Chinese crap) .
is tohatsu made in china or japan?
It seems he maybe slightly biasedQuote:
Originally Posted by B Wilson
Well everyone tells me to stick with known quality. The only two made in semi civilized places is etec in USA and tohatsu in Japan. Those shooting brownings know jap quality (Ecspecially if there's high tech and there is) is as good if not better than USA and certainly better than peru etc. Apparently if I don't like tohat I should get rid of my 20 cause tohat made everything merc under 25Quote:
Originally Posted by kokes
Thats easily answered. The bigger ? seems to be where the he11 is merc made since late 014?Quote:
Originally Posted by kokes
We have a 2003 nissan 9.8hp on the tin boat at the family cottage. It's manufactured by tohatsu, and it runs like a scalded cat. I love that motor, and I bought it off Kijiji for a song to replace our aging evinrude. It's light, quick and reliable. Based on my experiences with it, I'd take a look at tohatsu. They've been selling motors for quite a while now, and have a pretty good rep in the US.
All better. 30 etec going on her late next week. That'll fix this 5h1tQuote:
Originally Posted by diverduck
E-TEC works great, when it works. Which is not all the time. And yeah, they're more fickle (read "expensive") to fix. No thanks.
There's a reason all the police and military boats with outboards run Yamahas. Not the highest tech, but they run forever and are cheap to maintain.
Do you own an etec?Quote:
Originally Posted by Symmetre
Yamaha was costly enough for me to fix when yam canadas answer to a bum brand new 15 hp was to throuw another *&%&*%&$ at it and upgrade to a merc 20. Two weeks old and their fix was spend Oodles more on another brand. SORRY THATS NOT WARRANTY AND CERTAINLY NOT "CHEAP"
I will never own an E-TEC again. Had it for five months, and had to be towed back to the dock three separate times. Each time, dealer says there's nothing wrong with the engine. WTF?????Quote:
Originally Posted by standup
Year four with the Yamaha. No problems, no issues, runs like a swiss watch.
What size etec?Quote:
Originally Posted by Symmetre
60 E-TEC.
Replaced by Yamaha 70.
No regrets.
That's fine. Don't ever need help from Yam Can. As matter of fact just try to call Yam Can. and see if you even canQuote:
Originally Posted by Symmetre
But that's the whole point.
I have never had to.
The engine works.
My 25 hp electric start Tohatsu was the best outboard i ever owned.
Driving a 90hp e-tec now and this motor is a sputtering nightmare with 76 hours on it, despite synthetic oil and best available gas.
My buddy's mercury is an equal nightmare
If my blows its going to be yahama or honda
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