Looking at one of these sleds for fishing and hunting and the odd rip, but not trail riding!!! Anyone have any good or bad to say? it is a two stroke I'm looking at and can't find the weight of the sled either
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Looking at one of these sleds for fishing and hunting and the odd rip, but not trail riding!!! Anyone have any good or bad to say? it is a two stroke I'm looking at and can't find the weight of the sled either
I have never heard of the 'it' model, but I have a LT.
I dont have a long term review, and mine is 4 stroke, but I was out for the first ride of the season this morning and I must say its a 'good ride'.
Mine is a 146 track and came stock with 10 inch skis. So at this point I assume it will be great in deep snow, although we only have 3 inches so far.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y85...psobipsup9.jpg
By the way, if the 2 stroke you are looking at is the 570 Suzuki engine, I know a few guys that have that engine in different sleds and its been rock solid.
The only bad I have heard about Bearcats, is the 1000 4 stroke engines in the earlier models, it did not like cold starting.
Sorry it is an lt I'm looking at , do u know the weight of that machine, can't find any info on it and I've been online and brochure
Arctic Cat has been keeping there sled weight secret for many years now. Pretty much since the weight battle begun in the early 2000's. Before that nobody cared about sled weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by warningshot
Here is a list that one of the dealers posted in 2012. We can deduct that most of today's sleds are somewhere between 450 and 550lbs.
http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=...%2Fid%2F137%2F
You will have trouble finding that weight I had to look at the machines in Sweden or Finland to get the weight of my machine a 2016 Artic Cat XT at 480 lbs.
Not quite sure why weight might be an issue when it comes to make or break a deal. Most long track machines are so heavy that one can only move the front or back marginally with a ton of grunting. That's why reverse is an absolute necessity with these machines. If the power range is to be had then the average weight in these class of machines is not much of an issue but I do prefer the 2 stroke over the 4 stroke for bottom low end power.
http://arcticcat.se/products/bc-2000-xt/
I stand corrected 2016 2000XT Bearcat 570cc is 275 KG or 605 LBS.
Have you had the chance to ride a newer 4 stroke sled?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
The low end torque of both this 700cc Bearcat and the 500cc Phazer a had previously is much superior to any 2 strokes I have ridden. They dont need to rev in order to make power.
I've driven a 5 year old Yamaha 1000 cc and because I'm so used to 2-stroke I can't get onto the long wind up they seem to need. Top end was great but outta the hole it seemed to suck wind--not what I would have wanted in deep slush.
I have a 97 440 bearcat in the garage.. great sled.. but yes heavy in the snow! but it's the only sled i know that you can stop in the deep powder and easily move after. If you buy this sled, make sure you buy a cover for it... air intake get full of snow when not in use. ( mind you that can be any sled) over all, a great machine to fish pull and go for the odd rip off trail!!!
Bought a new Bearcat 570xt in 2014. Just over 1000 miles on it. Nothing but use for ice fishing and towing stuff, kids, and wife into the cottage in the winter.
No complaints but have never driven anything other than an Arctic Cat. Has done everything I have put it through. Was impressed last year when we did a 3 hour round trip through nothing but slush/snow on Lake Temagami. We all know what deep slush does to snowmobiles on a lake. Drove through it like a champ while buddies struggled hard and blew belts. This is where the 20 inch wide track saved my butt.
Only thing I wish mine had was heated hand grips for the passenger. I know earlier models had them but in 2014 they didn't. I don't know if the newer models have them again.
Good machine. Would buy another just to leave at the cottage all year. I refer to mine as a big comfy couch that I can just hope on and go for a ride where I want when I want.
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I have the 2015 bearcat 2000LT 570cc machine and i love the machine will go almost anywhere has a 151 track 8 " skis .I use this machine for Ice fishing back country in Sudbury area as this is where i live.Weight is about 650 LBS.Attachment 33926
Don't forget to add on the weight of a full tank, about 64L if I'm not mistaken. We have two at work and have left the keys in hoping someone would steal them, so far no luck. As far as quality, both needed new electric starters right off the assembly line, bad bendix. And then now head units, I've never seen a clock show 33:15pm. Buy the winch kit or at least a come-a-long, when you get stuck, you'll be there for a while. Unless you're Hercules, no way one guy can pick up the rear end, never mind the front end.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky30250
Look for a yamaha VK540. We have 2 at work and they are bulletproof. They will go anywhere and drag anything. We use them to pull groomers for x country ski trails.
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Those bearcats are use full sleds. I'm running a Yamaha venture 2 up with the 151 inch track. The long wide tracks are a must if you spend a lot of time on the lakes. They fly over the slush and when they start to break through a touch of the gas and your back up on top. Two riders and a sled full of everyone's gear in 2ft of slush and untouched powder on a back lake and I was the only one not getting stuck.
I would x2 on the VK540. Even the Viking professional 2.
Does your venture have the wide track??Quote:
Originally Posted by toddy
I have a venture 500 fan 2 up.....136" track. It goes anywhere I point it, and hauls loads of gear. I usually have a passenger, and tow a 2 man flip hut, with another 6ft sleigh behind that. No problem. I needed studs last year though. No snow, so I ran a lot on bare ice and had no traction. My buddies on liquid cooled sleds struggled with over heating, but they had traction with studs on their machines. I don't know how well mine would do through 2 ft of powder with a passenger towing 2 sleds, but I'd giver a whirl!
The VK's we have at work are tanks and go anywhere. They are tough as nails. We to x country ski trail groomers behind them.
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You would look like a submarine in a snowstorm, been there, done that. Had to stand up to see where I was going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinker
Ive done it without the passenger and 2 sleighs.... lol. The VK'S would eat that stuff for a snack!
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15 inch wide track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinker
Scratchers are a must if your running on bare ice. Studs help a bit with cooling but do nothing for the sliders.
I just picked up a 1191 Polaris Indy Lite, 340 for $800.00, compression great, Tunnel great, good clean machine for exactly the reason you said. I plan to go off trail hunting and wanted a light sled to be able to push pull and dig out if needed. It is 2 stroke, oil injected and is a blast to ride so far. It has a almost new track with about two inch paddles. So far it is solid and almost too fast for this 53 yr old body. The two stroke nature of the beast help to power to the snow quickly and almost makes it ride on top of the 12" of light powder we have now in Ottawa.
[QUOTE=toddy;1005622]15 inch wide track.
Scratchers are a must if your running on bare ice. Studs help a bit with cooling but do nothing for the sliders.[/QUOTE
MIne is fan cooled so I can get away with a bit of running on bare ice. I usually fill the track with whatever snow I can find, and when I drill holes throw the slush in there too. It helps, but its still hard on them. I've heard of guys using dish soap too....never tried it. I haven't melted my sliders off yet, but they took a beating last year.
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I live North of Sudbury and fish brookies in the backlakes i do carry a come-a-long and shovel but this machine has never let me down it breaks trail with ease flat land or hills.I now have 2000 kms on it with no problems also .Key to not getting stuck is not too spin the track when you feel machine slowing down in deep snow just stop and back up and then go forward again you will never get stuck with this method.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
You will get stuck sooner or later, trust me. We all do. Your beast will need a come along for sure. I'm sure its great in deep snow though......we carry an electric winch on our Alpine LOL....it goes anywhere, but once its stuck, light it on fire!! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by sparky30250
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