Motion 103 - The so-called "Islamophobia bill"

For those who want to keep an eye on Motion 103, the so-called "Islamophobia bill", a private member's motion but now gaining support by the Liberal party, here's the Parliament link:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/Iqra-Khalid(88849)/Motions?sessionId=152&documentId=8661986

As Canadians, we'd like to think we have the right to free speech, but it is not as potentially lawfully protected as it is the USA.

I'll refrain from making comments about this lest it comes back to me as "hate speech" after this motion becomes a bill. The only thing that I will say is that Canada already has hate speech laws as it is, and it should be good enough, but alas it is not.

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Originally Posted by SaginMerusan

The only thing that I will say is that Canada already has hate speech laws as it is, and it should be good enough, but alas it is not.

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I agree. Our current hate laws should suffice, as they already cover race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Why does this specific group need its own version? What's to stop every other group that feels prejudiced against from wanting their own law? Where do you draw the line?

In the sand. They never should have crossed it. Literally.


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Originally Posted by delmer

I agree. Our current hate laws should suffice, as they already cover race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Why does this specific group need its own version? What's to stop every other group that feels prejudiced against from wanting their own law? Where do you draw the line?

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Simple, the obvious goal isn't about discrimination etc., it's goal for the Libs is to suck up and to get vote by stopping any criticism of Islam
http://canadafreepress.com/images/up...lfe022017l.jpg
and just look at him here.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ITbPH19UO...600/fagtrd.jpg

PM Zoolander is pandering to any group he can to try and get votes and continue his reign to our ruin.


What he doesn't realize is how big a hypocrite he is and the views of those he is pandering to. For example I sometimes watch and occasionally notes on "Reflections on Islam" on Canada's Vision TV and my May 22/2016 note Ezz E. Gad repeat something he has said many times that:
"Islam must not be polluted with things like democracy, socialism, capitalism "....

In Ontario and Quebec the Islamophobia law is already passed
(hence the guy that was arrested on twitter comments and sent to Psych hospital for evaluation
http://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_february_7_2017
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The Conservative had a bill was essentially the same but without the Islamophobia clause so equality isn't the reason obviously

HMMM.... Remember Charle Hebdo paper? Now look at who Canada has elected, the Pakistani woman that started this bill, the liar Monsef, Omar Alghabra (fan of sharia and Hamas)..... and Justin Trudope. I cringe at where the ideologues and power hungry are taking Canada.

It will be interesting to see who and what the coverage is of this...

M-103 protests: Violence breaks out as supporters, critics of motion condemning Islamophobia clash
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...mophobia-clash


Looking at the pictures we have the pro M103 showing up in face masks and young men.... looking at the other crowd we see grey hairs, women etc. another 4 men beating someone and a woman trying to help.

Interesting the ones who don't support civil rights are also the first to try to take someone else's right away through violence. Why show up to protest with mask unless criminal actions are planned

We already have laws against "hate speech" in all it's forms in this country. Every province has a Human Rights Tribunal (usually a kangaroo court,but,that's a matter for another thread),nevertheless,it's more than adequately covered. Why,all of a sudden,the Liberals feel it's necessary to ram this piece of knee-jerk garbage through looks to me like every other knee-jerk law they've ever tried and that's because somewhere in the dark,there's an ulterior motive. This is simply being used as an excuse for some other nefarious agenda. I wouldn't trust a Liberal if Jesus,himself, had his arm around their shoulder.

The entire Liberal fiasco make me ill. The only light at the end of tunnel is he is doing more harm to his party than it can imagine. If by some act of utter stupidity he gets re-elected, we are pooched. I will head for the hills, buy a goat and re-invent my own country....

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The entire Liberal fiasco make me ill. The only light at the end of tunnel is he is doing more harm to his party than it can imagine. If by some act of utter stupidity he gets re-elected, we are pooched. I will head for the hills, buy a goat and re-invent my own country....

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Buy a pig. They'll stay away then?

I will pipe in here with what arguments about M-103 is all about. I have wrote to all major news media organizations over Canada and regularly comment on different groups.

First off this is distraction politics. I will post two things to prove it.- In January Trudeau was tanking in the polls with his cross Canada tour, next the carbon tax came into effect. Trudeau was taking big hits to his popularity.

Enter the politician - we need something to distract people from bad policy.

Enter M-103, the distraction.

Enter news media to hype it up, news media took it hook, line and sinker.

Result - No one is talking about the hurt of the Carbon tax in Alberta and Ontario. No one is talking about his failed coffee shop tour across Canada.

Fact- You have all been duped, suckered and controlled by this government and the media has played right along. Of course they have to sell papers and have something to make you watch the news for advertising.

FACT - M-103 is not needed as we already have the Criminal Code of Canada, Section 319(2) that covers hate crimes. But you didn't know it, further proof again this distraction politics. I find it rather sad that the average person has fallen for this. I find it sad that the media is pushing this, I find it sad that government is doing this. I also say the government is doing this and causing divides, the same divides they say the Cons did.

National Post - I challenge you to call and interview me on air about this subject. I won't hold my breath. But maybe this will sweeten the pot for you. I will be running in the 2018 Ontario Provincial Election in 2018 for the Libertarian Party in Nepean Ontario.

I await your video tapped interview.

Trudeau: We have a problem with Islamophobia in Canada
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trude...r&_gsc=azZSDfL
Trudeau, speaking in the House of Commons Wednesday during the “Daughters of the Vote” event in support of International Women’s Day, was responding to a Muslim delegate who encouraged Canadian leaders to condemn Islamophobia.

I know enough about Islam and it's history and texts and it's views and how accommodation isn't enough in Peel region, how Omar Alghabra has openly said he wants Sharia in Canada etc. that this is my only comment and hopefully this one won't get deleted too.

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Result - No one is talking about the hurt of the Carbon tax in Alberta and Ontario. No one is talking about his failed coffee shop tour across Canada.

Fact- You have all been duped, suckered and controlled by this government and the media has played right along. Of course they have to sell papers and have something to make you watch the news for advertising.

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You should speak for yourself only. I have not been duped, suckered, or controlled. On the contrary. I am well aware of the Carbon Tax.

I don't know about you, but I find it critical to know how our right to free speech is being dwindled away, how politicians could dare to overwrite the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But hey, let's be more concerned about the tax and hand wave away this motion as if it was nothing. I know you think this is distraction politics, and you may very well be right. However, I do not want to wake up one day and this is an actual bill because the Liberals were sneaky and snuck this in. We can and should want to stop them on all fronts where it is due.

And yes, the damned Carbon Tax. As if we weren't taxed enough. But what can we do about it? How do we go about giving the Liberals a real scare and do a kind of no confidence thing and put their power in jeopardy? Answer me that, please, and yes, I am asking seriously. How do we go about taking them out of power civilly? Or, how do we go about, as citizens, putting a stop to their Carbon Tax bill? Other than a petition, which we know will not work. In other words, what haven't we tried recently as Canadians that would actually work to put a stop to Carbon Tax as well as M103? Nothing in my recent memory tells me anything other than we are screwed with a majority gov't.

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Originally Posted by SaginMerusan

You should speak for yourself only. I have not been duped, suckered, or controlled. On the contrary. I am well aware of the Carbon Tax.

I don't know about you, but I find it critical to know how our right to free speech is being dwindled away, how politicians could dare to overwrite the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But hey, let's be more concerned about the tax and hand wave away this motion as if it was nothing. I know you think this is distraction politics, and you may very well be right. However, I do not want to wake up one day and this is an actual bill because the Liberals were sneaky and snuck this in. We can and should want to stop them on all fronts where it is due.

And yes, the damned Carbon Tax. As if we weren't taxed enough. But what can we do about it? How do we go about giving the Liberals a real scare and do a kind of no confidence thing and put their power in jeopardy? Answer me that, please, and yes, I am asking seriously. How do we go about taking them out of power civilly? Or, how do we go about, as citizens, putting a stop to their Carbon Tax bill? Other than a petition, which we know will not work. In other words, what haven't we tried recently as Canadians that would actually work to put a stop to Carbon Tax as well as M103? Nothing in my recent memory tells me anything other than we are screwed with a majority LIBERAL gov't.

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There! Fixed it for you.

Just listening to Tommy Robinson and his kangaroo court and abuse by the UK court system.... 10 minute "trial", denied lawyer.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeC-4XQQYdU

I believe this is a distraction. I think most Canadians are accommodating of people's various religious views, political opinions, etc. If they create a specific law on hate speech/crimes towards Islam, then the same can/should be done for every specific religious perspective or political point of view out there. I do not believe that is an efficient use of parliament's time. They should simply review the existing laws and determine if the laws would cover such a situation of hateful action against any specific religion.

Most are .... the problem is those in government and those that won't accept the current freedoms and want restrictions and to add restrictions and to silence people. Just listen to how they treated Tommy Robinson in the UK.... look at the difference in treatment even here, a Chinese girl is killed ...seems to be mostly silence from the politicians .... a hoax about an Asian (Chinese) man cutting a girls hijab and rants and screams.... you have advocates for terrorists in parliament like Omar Alghabra that has called for sharia law here.... the LIEbrals are creating more and more divisions, special treatments, flooding in as many new immigrants as they can, taking off ID requirements to vote .... remember in the 1930's the National Socialist party didn't get in with a majority of the votes EVER..... just to be exact ... I ASSUME this is one of the few things you can trust Wiki to have right ... 1933 election.
National Socialist Percentage 43.91% Social Democrat 18.25% Communist 12.32%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...on,_March_1933


With a majority they can do what ever they want once elected, we have no recall, no number of petitions etc will have any effect on them... it would just take a few changes of laws and the 4 year election becomes 40.... think the ethics violating entitled Libs atleast some of them haven't thought of doing it? Like Wynne we will see them trying to buy the election with as many promises as they can with no regard for the future .... all politicians make promises true... but with Hudak we saw what happens if they tell the truth about trying to make it better. We have judges that would side with them too... look at what Ford is having to do when even the judge that ruled against the change in Toronto admitted he had the power and right....

Is this their way of trying to gain the status of the admired tyrants like Castro or Chinese dictatorship and unrestricted power .... perhaps, they sure seem to be throwing NAFTA under the steam roller to say they are fighting against Trump to bait the uninformed and CBC watchers. The next year is going to be "interesting" .... if they don't call an early election .... but what would they use for an excuse for that .... trade? security? .... ethics violations ... another Lieberal in the last couple weeks on that one but not something good for them. :-)