scary coyote encounter

so I was out walking my beagle mix behind the house where we do every day. I have a collar but don't normally use it unless we're in the bush.

we were walking a field and he gained some distance from me. I started to call but he kept going. there was a strong wind in my face and he couldn't hear me. I kept walking his way over a hill. then I heard him howling and baying . but not his rabbit voice. I ran the rest of the hill and when I got to the top, he was face to face with a coyote baying.

I starting calling as loud as I could when the coyote saw me it turn and ran and my boy ran right back up the hill to me. as I watched the coyote take off.

I checked my dog out ,drop of blood on the nose and that's it.

I dropped my guard and didn't have the collar on him. very lucky looked like a fight just about to happen.

now I need to break him off coyote. he won't run deer. but all season in the bush his hair would stand up and he'd howl but wouldn't track. I'd lead him to another spot and keep hunting .

scary moment and poor dog skills I showed tonight. hope anyone else new to hounds won't make the same mistake until you know what your dog is 100%

Glad to hear your beagle is OK.

Is he a small beagle? A coyote shouldn't bay in field unless the hound rolls it a few times.

A rabid shot might be in order. Hope you carry a gun from now on. Scary for sure.

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he's a big beagle . 19" tall and probably 30lbs or so. I meant my dog was howling the coyote was quiet. on the wau back to the house we heard one howl though. he's seeing the vet anyways this week so will likely do that

Glad your dog is all right. Coyotes are always a worry. I can't carry a gun anymore so carry dog spray. My JRT would make a nice brunch. Would hate to lose my setter.

I was just shocked that my dog wanted to run one. and wasn't scared at all. ran back like he did something great. I will be walking with a gun at all times now. and will try to break him from running them.

Beagles rarely back off from anything - bred them for 20 +- years. :)

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Originally Posted by trigger02

I was just shocked that my dog wanted to run one. and wasn't scared at all. ran back like he did something great. I will be walking with a gun at all times now. and will try to break him from running them.

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He was not "running " the coyote. He was standing his ground and baying for you to come get it. Coyote likely confronted the dog and it ended in a stand off till you showed up and then coyote was out numbered.

that makes more sense snowwalker. his body language wasn't anything like tracking . hairstanding and howling . any tips on stopping him from wanting to do that?

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Originally Posted by trigger02

that makes more sense snowwalker. his body language wasn't anything like tracking . hairstanding and howling . any tips on stopping him from wanting to do that?

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Not sure what to tell you, but to carry a rifle. Your the alpha, he is a beta. Basic pack behavior, he ran into a problem held his own till you came along and did your alpha thing of being big and bad to drive the coyote off.

Why would you want him to stop doing this. If he had turned and run away from the coyote. It may have chased your dog and tried to kill it. Standing his ground is the best thing he could have done. Fleeing triggers the predator to chase

but he didn't stand his ground because a coyote appeared. he picked up the scent and ran about 700 yards to confront the coyote

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but he didn't stand his ground because a coyote appeared. he picked up the scent and ran about 700 yards to confront the coyote

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Was this the first time he met a coyote? If so he was just smelling another dog (canine ), now he knows the smell is from an unfriendly type of dog, and he can'take make a new friend. I would think he is friendly and plays with other dogs.

What a great story to learn about behaviors. Glad your boy is Ok. But, I found this a fascinating read to hear the behaviors side of the story from the experts. I have two dogs, but not hunters..they act like it with rabbits in the back yard though.

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What a great story to learn about behaviors. Glad your boy is Ok. But, I found this a fascinating read to hear the behaviors side of the story from the experts. I have two dogs, but not hunters..they act like it with rabbits in the back yard though.

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Expert? Don't look at me. :confused:

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Originally Posted by trigger02

so I was out walking my beagle mix behind the house where we do every day. I have a collar but don't normally use it unless we're in the bush.

we were walking a field and he gained some distance from me. I started to call but he kept going. there was a strong wind in my face and he couldn't hear me. I kept walking his way over a hill. then I heard him howling and baying . but not his rabbit voice. I ran the rest of the hill and when I got to the top, he was face to face with a coyote baying.

I starting calling as loud as I could when the coyote saw me it turn and ran and my boy ran right back up the hill to me. as I watched the coyote take off.

I checked my dog out ,drop of blood on the nose and that's it.

I dropped my guard and didn't have the collar on him. very lucky looked like a fight just about to happen.

now I need to break him off coyote. he won't run deer. but all season in the bush his hair would stand up and he'd howl but wouldn't track. I'd lead him to another spot and keep hunting .

scary moment and poor dog skills I showed tonight. hope anyone else new to hounds won't make the same mistake until you know what your dog is 100%

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I would call this a near miss, your very lucky your dog is not dead. You did a couple of things right, you were in the bush with your Hound, you regognised a different voice from your Hound, you approached using your voice.
I would reccomend inviting some guys with big Hounds to come over and run and gun these coyotes. Coyotes are smart and quickly adapt. It won't take long and they will associate the smell and sound of Hounds with danger. Your local coyotes should head for the hills as soon as they sence your presence.

unfortunately I rent an apartment on a farm by Bolton . the coyotes run between the farm I'm on and neighbours and spend a lot of time in cold Creek conservation area. I can get away with a shotgun on the property but wouldn't be able to run them.

due to extreme anti hunter neighbours the landlord doesn't allow hunting.

it's a situation I've been worried about all year. when my dog picks up coyote scent his hair stands he'll howl and run around me. I once watched a coyote run across a road and my dog following the trail quietly minutes later. I shocked him off that track.

when he was younger and we would run into fresh coyote scent he'd howl but wouldn't go after them . I'd lead him into a new area and keep searching for rabbits . only this season he'd start running to find them .

I broke him off deer easily. but coyote and racoon for that matter make him go nuts.

we were walking downtown Newmarket behind the tannery heading to the dog park . and his hair stood and he was howling . then a coyote crossed towards the train tracks. if he wasn't on a leash he'd be gone. I really want to fix this so I don't lose him one day out hunting.

should I just loom for the signs he's on coyote scent and shock?

he's obedient and I can call him off before he wants to search for them . but if I'm not close enough apparently he'll go for it. once this season we had 3 beagles out he was the only one to start on a coyote track. I shocked him off that one too.

I'm new to hounds but have a good handle on what he's usually doing. any tips would be appreciated. sorry for the long post.

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Originally Posted by trigger02

unfortunately I rent an apartment on a farm by Bolton . the coyotes run between the farm I'm on and neighbours and spend a lot of time in cold Creek conservation area. I can get away with a shotgun on the property but wouldn't be able to run them.

due to extreme anti hunter neighbours the landlord doesn't allow hunting.

it's a situation I've been worried about all year. when my dog picks up coyote scent his hair stands he'll howl and run around me. I once watched a coyote run across a road and my dog following the trail quietly minutes later. I shocked him off that track.

when he was younger and we would run into fresh coyote scent he'd howl but wouldn't go after them . I'd lead him into a new area and keep searching for rabbits . only this season he'd start running to find them .

I broke him off deer easily. but coyote and racoon for that matter make him go nuts.

we were walking downtown Newmarket behind the tannery heading to the dog park . and his hair stood and he was howling . then a coyote crossed towards the train tracks. if he wasn't on a leash he'd be gone. I really want to fix this so I don't lose him one day out hunting.

should I just loom for the signs he's on coyote scent and shock?

he's obedient and I can call him off before he wants to search for them . but if I'm not close enough apparently he'll go for it. once this season we had 3 beagles out he was the only one to start on a coyote track. I shocked him off that one too.

I'm new to hounds but have a good handle on what he's usually doing. any tips would be appreciated. sorry for the long post.

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Absolutely. We trash break dogs with a very high e collar correction for many things - deer, porcupine . Just make very sure it is a coyote.

OK Sharon. I can unfortunately find them any day. they surround this farm i rent on. many barn cats vanished this year. he gets a whiff of them almost every day . usually on lead though.

Get a gun. :)

We don't correct for getting a whiff; we correct for taking off after the unwanted trash. Can't correct every time a dog smells a deer, but when he takes off.... BINGO>