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I'm sure Kathryn McGarry is a decent person, however all of her experience and expertise is in health care. Kathryn McGarry should be the minister of health not the MNRF. Having her in her current position shows poor judgement on the part of the Premier and the Liberal caucus.
Long gone are the days when a minister would have some kind of knowledge about the ministry they are assigned to. This is true for all parties. We can see what kind of mess we are in because of it.
Thanks for stating the obvious, you could use that sentence for any Minister in any field.
How much traction do we need to impeach a government? Why hasn't this been looked into as an option?
For years now a ministers function is more that of managing finances than it is of making decisions pertaining to the ministry they're in charge of. Decisions made by any ministry are more the function of the current government and their financial constraints. It all rolls downhill.
Pretty much Sawbill. Though it has to be said. All governments have an army of civil servants. Who, while they may largely be constrained to "making it so". They do, or are supposed to help with policy from the background. Be they economist in finance (no finance minister for example can do it all himself, or whatever. No government comes in and replaces thousands of worker bees.
In this day an age of Donald Trump, JT, possibly Kevin O'Leary. Lol, if we don't need people who can run countries, surely the people needed to run ministries need even less. Just have to be a good party member often with ties to the top of the food chain.
Think glen T from Sudbury and energy. He sure brought a lot of votes with him.
There is nothing in Ontario which would allow an elected official to be recalled by the electorate; let alone an entire government. Since our only recourse at this time is to vote them out, that is what we have to do. However, it seems the majority of the electorate in Ontario have the memory spans which rival goldfish, I won't hold my breath. Furthermore, as bad a shape Ontario is in, how long do you think it will take the next government (assuming one of the other parties are able to form a government) to reverse where we are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
Without getting off the topic of this thread Dyth. That's something I'm reasonably confident most don't think about, or perhaps don't want to think about. Neither the cost (human or financial), or the time... Better to just pretend is not there or go away on its own.
Spot quiz.
Name two ministers going as far back as maybe the 1990s, people thought were just half way decent. So rather than slamming MCGarry, or Mathews in health....Lets be positive for a change.
Start naming one if you can that was decent.
People rivaling goldfish? Think 416 and 905.
Wynne is gone in the next election. That's almost guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
I was surprised she won the last one. It was Hudak's to lose and he rose to the occasion. Brown would need to run a spectacularly incompetent campaign to lose this one.
Hopefully Brown is smarter than the last two, Hudak and Tory!!!!! Both were guaranteed a win until they opened their mouths !!Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Sorry for being obvious, but I thought Jerry Ouellette was a fine minister for the Mnr. I believe he was the last conservitive to hold the position. Jerry Ouelette is an avid Angler and hunter, who has owned hunting dogs one actually a beagle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I predict she will be gone before the next election. I think the Liberals will switch leaders like last time to make people think things will change. They will try to pick someone popular and the media will rally and sadly, Toronto will re elect them.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Do not know where you confidence comes from this guy has flip,flopped on just about every and any issue in the past.Nobody seems to know what his platform is...Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
It's not a matter of my confidence. It's a matter of Wynne's raw unpopularity. Her approval rating is at 12%, which is the second lowest approval rating any Premier of any province has ever had. Her own party is sharpening its knives for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Agreed. She will likely resign within the next 6 months and the party will pick a leader or have a quick convention to choose a new leader . They don't have much time before the next election and I guarantee the Liberals don't want her to lead them in the next election.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilly
Probably won't make a difference. The pattern with fresh leaders brought in to replace unpopular leaders is not good. Federally: John Turner and Kim Campbell spring to mind ... Paul Martin only limped along as long as he did because people didn't trust the alternative. Politicians have best before dates even when at the best of times, and Wynne is not governing at the best of times.
Though we're now well off the topic of whether the Minister is qualified. :)
Getting back to that topic, enacting regulations is the Minister's responsibility. The fiasco with the small games regs may be attributable to the Minister dropping the ball.
I wouldn't sing ding dong the witch is dead yet.
There is no arguement that Hudak shot himself in the foot, however what was he to do? The undeniable truth of the matter is the Liberals have Unions campaigning for them and 3rd party Union shells running attack ads (Working families). She/they also have a stranglehold on TO and lots of the GTA. Cons winning ridings in there is always big news. Doesnt matter what he said, did or campaigned on that is one heck of a wall to punch through.
Fine, he says nothing or little about PS. Lol are we all so naive that the liberals still wouldnt have run ads with hudak laughing while a hospital ER blows up in the background? Are we all so naive as to think they wouldnt have pounded the ghost of Mike Harris and secret agendas (no differently than Harper was always attacked for having secret agendas).....
Polls today.
Here's a shock for people. While her personal popularity is abysma the 12-14% so often quoted, all that says is everyone hates her....they may still vote redl. Theres little indication the cons will make inroads into the 416 and the 905 while having woken up some is still not that wide a margin. Something like 40/30.
For us?
Isnt it funny how everyone wants to save the planet, but the mnr and moe budget is less than 1% combined. If people actually cared, politicians would care because that means votes.
I dont care if its Teddy R at the helm and Jim Shocky is his deputy. 65mm from the SPA and what table crumbs they get. You cant squeeze blood from stone nor do the impossible and no doubt people would still blame both of them for Moose, Deer, Asian Carp, Walleye, and long list of other things.
Brown seems more like a Red Tory the same as John Tory. I didn't like Tory and I don't like Brown. Sure wish Lisa had one the leadership.
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Originally Posted by welsh
never underestimate the PC's ability to shoot themselves in the foot during a campaign. And as crooked as Wynne is she is a great campaigner. Although why the Liberal party haven't pulled out the swords yet is definitely confusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Chris Hodgson was not a bad minister. He was from Haliburton and had a hunting and fishing background.Quote:
Originally Posted by swampsinger
"Obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,it is the illusion of knowledge."
How many people out there still think we live in a democratic society?
How many of those that say yes remember voting for madam Minister?
If I had the same level of qualifications she had for her job, and applied them to mine.She wouldn't be qualified for either, and neither would I.
Foxx,
Chris Hodgson was the one I could think of.