FED Liberal ISSUES - A Request and a Summary

Feel free to add a link to this thread if you have posted a new topic on the LIBERAL waste, incompetency, arrogance and attack on real Canadians. That is my request to keep together a summary as a reminder and I noticed a duplicate number later in the pile.



NOW the Summary:

Fed Issues like the lies in the election, admiration for dictatorship, pro-life not allowed to run as MPs, lies on their webpage about firearms, elbowgate, taking money FROM charities etc. brought us easily up to 10 so and beyond but to simplify the actual numbering started at 10.

#10 ISIS genocide not recognized by Canada (US, UN, Europre do).
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

#11 Response to home made firearms
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

12 - Lies about spending and balanced budget - $1T+
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

13 - Trudeau's wife on the floor, Larry Curly and Moe with Obama, gender neutral ID's...
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

14 - regional representation on Supreme court thrown out.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

15 - More waste of taxpayer money
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+issue

16 - Summer unbudgeted spending of $7.8B
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

17 - Dion's asinine arrogant response to a woman trying to get her kids back
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

18 - Flip flopping on lying and losing citizenship, propping Monsef up....
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

19 - more Lib "fiction" on the budget spending. $16B
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

20 - Canada is back... loving terrorists, dictators etc.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

21 - Cash for Access only way to see PM and openness is dead.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

22 - response to death of a Tyrant... Castro
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

23 - more tax increases (healthcare and dental)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

24 - election reform farce and failure
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

25 - Trip to the Bahama's in secret. (eventually found to cost taxpayers over $250,000)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

26 - skips economic meetings to do a Liberal promo show... that has woman crying and him saying suck it up on electricity rates.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

27 - arrogance+, Justin won't answer english questions in Quebec
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

28 - CBC no longer a news channel, just a propagand machine only
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

29 - attempt to get a "media levy"
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

30 - middle class "tax cuts" shown to be actual increases for most
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

31 - open nominations shown to be a complete lie
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue


32 - Fed Health Minister lying about expenses
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue


33 - Trudeau trying to get Friday off and almost eliminating question period
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

34 - military Spending lowest level
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

35 - KPMG investigation coverup
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

36 - Huge increase in those sworn to eternal secrecy
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

37 - When an access to information request is put in, instead hundreds of records deleted.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

38 and 39 More taxes and selling off high tech company/ security to China
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

40 - PM deliberately insults Alberta or just mentally incompetant.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

41 - ignoring victims of terroism BUT paying a terrorist $10.5M
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

42 - Trudeau donates $20M of taxpayer money to Clinton foundation.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

43 joke one - Canada's leader seen as idiot.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

43 - Canada abandons citizen arrested in China over their religion.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue
* Not even mentioned 2017/Dec visit as far as we know, no results too.

44 - Liberal disdain for real hero and RCMP as bell hops for illegals.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

45 - new taxes (spending $166M to collect $39M)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

46 - Diplomat with ties to Libs given 2X regular salary
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

47 - Liberal tax increases affecting all business and more liberal lies.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

48 - attempt to float federal Pharmacare
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

49 - Energy East cancelled due to new rules
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

#50 - Canada to buy USED fighter jets........
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

51 - Compensation cut for elite soldiers if injuries last more than 180 days
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

52 - Canada hands off equipment and 200 troops to the UN
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

52 (53) Justlied Truedope sabotages Trans-Pacific Partnership, shocking leaders
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

53 - (54) Liberal's extend hug a thug to ISIS terrorists....
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

54 - (55) Liberals are selling out to the Chinese dictatorship.... ??!!??
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue

55 - (56) Democracy Watch lables ILLEGAL the Liberal selection of ethics commissioner
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ight=Fed+Issue


57 - Justin Trudeau’s guilty of breaking multiple ethics rules on Bahamas vacation (2017-12-20)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...hamas-vacation

58 - Jobs numbers and where jobs are actually being created and who is suffering tax increases.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...7-Fed-Issue-58

59 - $100,000+ to have a twitter account
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ealth-minister

Issue 60 - lies about restoring home delivery on Canada Post and the media coverup.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...97#post1050097

Fed Issue #61 - Libs and the environment. Wetland Conservation Fund cancelled
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...Fund-cancelled

Fed Issue #62 - Trudeau tax changes for small businesses called " anti-business"
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-business-quot

Issue #63 - the budget (lied again about budget)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-63-the-budget

Fed Issue #64 - Trudeau Gov't doesn't have money for blind and vision-impaired
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...n-impaired-too

Fed Issue #65 - Liberal's DO have $860,000 for gender certification for businesses
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...for-businesses

Fed Issue #66 - Trudeau returns from vaction early, BUT still snubs Royal Visit from ally
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...isit-from-ally

Fed Issue #67 - Trudeau skips marathon votes that were intended to try and get answers
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...nd-get-answers

Fed Issue #68 - ethics loophole may prevent Canadians from knowing what gifts Agha Khan gave Trudeau
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...n-gave-Trudeau

Fed Issue #69 - Liberal's trying to create $7,000,000,000 slush fund
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...000-slush-fund

Fed Issue 70 - Climate minister unable to answer basic questions on Carbon taxes and effect.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...xes-and-effect

Bill C-71 & What You Can Do
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...hat-You-Can-Do

Fed Issue #71 - Bill C-75 reducing charge for tons of crimes, child brides etc...
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ild-brides-etc


Bill C-71 (back door gun registry) and C-75 - reducing sentences on criminals/terrorists
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...hat-You-Can-Do

Fed Issue #73 - Libs buy Kinder Morgan project.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...Morgan-project

Fed Issue #74 - Liberal's don't want illegal border crosers called illegal and call names.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...and-call-names

Fed Issue #75 - Liberals will allow citizens without ID to cast ballot
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...to-cast-ballot

Fed Issue #76/#77 - Federal Liberals violated own fundraising rules & sabotaging Nafta
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...botaging-Nafta

Fed Issue #78 - Trudeau Govt Drops $43 Billion In Summer Blitz Aimed Mostly At Liberal ridings
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...iberal-ridings

I could add Justin Trudeau being a bigot and violating the Charter of Rights but the leftatics would go ballistic as they are anti-Christian too.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/summe...491602?cmp=rss
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-...need-not-apply
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-...bishop-trudeau


Fed Issue 80 thru 83 - Terror, openness, internet security, human rights
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ghts-is-a-joke

Fed Issue #84 - Stat Can. - personal transaction data of 500,000 people without their consent
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...41#post1071541

Fed Isses, 85, to 89 West Can separation, UN Migration, Liberal ghosts (getting paid not showing up), vets, oil
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...hosts-vets-oil



Fed Issue #90 - DUI while sitting on the couch? Possible now!
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...h-Possible-now!

#91 Low income don't pay taxes according to Libs.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...e-pay-no-taxes

#92 Libs pressure and then fire attorney general
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...ourney-general

and the ex-attounrey general's testimony (ex, she was fired for doing her job)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-Shocking-News
and the explanation
https://youtu.be/K4Vx6kmfutc

* Admiral Norman
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...(Land-version)

* Digital Charter (censorship)
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...Liberal-change

* McKenna quoting Goebbels and election fixing.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...32#post1085532


# At Trudeau’s behest, Gould instructed Google News to limit Canadian access to foreign press
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...14#post1080914


CTV's 7
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...and-I-add-my-7

* Justin Trudeau lying to children caught on camera.
http://brianlilley.com/trudeau-lies-to-schoolchildren-gets-caught/

* Federal tax changes download costs to Municipalities
https://www.facebook.com/darrincanni...89233278310918


* August/2019 More ethics violations for Trudeau, interfering with the ethics investigation too and of course the SNC interfereince....
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...lavalin-affair




There are more I could add and more in the topic.... but who could vote for them when even
22 Minutes asks

Are Justin Trudeau and Bill Morneau in touch with the middle class?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSgiHuBSfA


Jordan Peterson on Justin Trudeau
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...Justin-Trudeau

** Added Feb. 2019 - did foreign interference make the Liberal win illegitimate.
https://twitter.com/SpencerFernando/...51009521438721

Yup mosq is the king of cut a paste that's for sure. mosq. what makes a real Canadian in your words...who you vote for?

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Yup mosq is the king of cut a paste that's for sure. mosq. what makes a real Canadian in your words...who you vote for?

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Someone who actually has respect for the country, doesn't lie through their teeth, actually works hard and cares about integrity and has a dislike of secret agenda's, coverups and dictatorships, respects others but doesn't mindlessly accept things but thinks there should be free speech ... essentially everything that isn't Liberals we see in Ottawa. The Libs in Ottawa lie like crazy, are intentionally divisive, arrogant, take from charities/poor/middle class (as long as it isn't themselves), spend without a thought in their heads and have openly expressed admiration for a dictator that spread revolution and terror through out Central America and Africa as well as an admiration for a dictatorship that killed 50,000,000+ and runs over students with tanks, M103, payoffs to a terrorist....essentially complete mental, moral and integrity failures.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

Someone who actually has respect for the country, doesn't lie through their teeth, actually works hard and cares about integrity and has a dislike of secret agenda's, coverups and dictatorships, respects others but doesn't mindlessly accept things but thinks there should be free speech ... essentially everything that isn't Liberals we see in Ottawa. The Libs in Ottawa lie like crazy, are intentionally divisive, arrogant, take from charities/poor/middle class (as long as it isn't themselves), spend without a thought in their heads and have openly expressed admiration for a dictator that spread revolution and terror through out Central America and Africa as well as an admiration for a dictatorship that killed 50,000,000+ and runs over students with tanks, M103, payoffs to a terrorist....essentially complete mental, moral and integrity failures.

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Best description of Lieberals that I have seen! :goodstuff:,:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Yup mosq is the king of cut a paste that's for sure. mosq. what makes a real Canadian in your words...who you vote for?

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Remember you have no opinion fishermcann and are only here for the entertainment.

Some other forums have an "ignore list" that you can use to block posts from members of your choosing. I have always though that that was equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying la la la la la. Lately certain members have me whishing for such a feature here. How can one so daft as to think that the current government is good for Canada?

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Some other forums have an "ignore list" that you can use to block posts from members of your choosing. I have always though that that was equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying la la la la la. Lately certain members have me whishing for such a feature here. How can one so daft as to think that the current government is good for Canada?

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You have a point but I would actually prefer them in the conversation regardless of how out of touch they are. Most of the lefties arguements are about feelings and like our "Budgets balance themselves" and "admiration for China" the evidence and sparkle dust and pink shiny unicorns ideas can be seen as of no substance. That is why they usually insult, ignore or distract to another topic when you try and teach and ask why or how etc you get replies like "I have no need to prove anything to anyone. ". It is an emotional reaction based on feelings and alot of the globalist Star Trek universe types it is about what they want and they ignore the realities, the impact on the future and responsibility. (atleast the new series acknowledge there is Mudd's in their universe too, appropriate name it seems)

Let's just look at Ontario, the debt payments ALONE have doubled and are projected at $12,000,000,000 next year and if there is an interest rate increase ....:scream:

For 2016
Ontario’s debt servicing costs this year are projected to be more than $11 billion or nine per cent of overall government revenue.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/arti...MT&Domain=t.co

So 1 in every 10 dollars is going to just paying the interest... not paying down the debt, not paying for healthcare, infrastructure etc.,

My point is that IF they are involved and not complete ideologues there is hope they may realize how bad they are screwing the youth coming up and the kids later who will have to get alot less and pay more. Of course Communism and Fascism had their supporters in the 20th century and we see over 150,000,000 dead and things like the Armenian Genocide, to the Christian/Kurd genocide by ISIS etc. to run up the 20th century violence total and those were done by groups, not an individual acting alone.


“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell


BUT (History warning) we can look back at the impact of a small group or even ONE person standing against the darkness, a few examples are Schindler, Nicholas Wilson, Albert Goring (YES, the field marshals own brother), Corrie Ten Boom and Dietrich Bonhoeffer.. often at the cost of their own lives they stood up against the terror and darkness that was Nazi German. These might put some of the impact in perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQzqfsgftBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXIX2O0IhLU



Wisdom, knowledge and understanding are to be worked for and justice and mercy aren't just words ... So even if it is the dumbest and most insulting b s you can see is posted it is better to have them involved and atleast attempting to think about is this what is best. A perfect example is Nabeel Quereshi, he started out trying to convince his friend why Christianity was wrong and Islam right and his attacks led him to look at his own "truth" and 5 years later he had become a Christian speaker. To paraphrase someone I heard... They ain't dead so there's hope fer em yet."

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Some other forums have an "ignore list" that you can use to block posts from members of your choosing. I have always though that that was equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying la la la la la. Lately certain members have me whishing for such a feature here. How can one so daft as to think that the current government is good for Canada?

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No problem. There's one of those,here. Just click on the posters avatar or user name. On the left sidebar under profile,there's the "add to ignore list" feature. Click on that. Easy peasy.

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Remember you have no opinion fishermcann and are only here for the entertainment.

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Oh I most certainly do have an opinion, and I find the reactions to my opinion very entertaining. Nothing, absolutely nothing of what is discussed on this site will have any affect on whatever party is in power. People type things because it makes them feel like they are doing something , but in reality it does nothing.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

Someone who actually has respect for the country, doesn't lie through their teeth, actually works hard and cares about integrity and has a dislike of secret agenda's, coverups and dictatorships, respects others but doesn't mindlessly accept things but thinks there should be free speech ... essentially everything that isn't Liberals we see in Ottawa. The Libs in Ottawa lie like crazy, are intentionally divisive, arrogant, take from charities/poor/middle class (as long as it isn't themselves), spend without a thought in their heads and have openly expressed admiration for a dictator that spread revolution and terror through out Central America and Africa as well as an admiration for a dictatorship that killed 50,000,000+ and runs over students with tanks, M103, payoffs to a terrorist....essentially complete mental, moral and integrity failures.

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That pretty much sums it up !! Any other questions !!

Everything on this site is someone's opinion. You can find 'facts', to backup either side if you want to look. My expert is better than your expert, in the end it means nada.

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Everything on this site is someone's opinion. You can find 'facts', to backup either side if you want to look. My expert is better than your expert, in the end it means nada.

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So the Ethic's Commissioner just found Trudeau in a conflict of interest today. What are you smoking ???

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So the Ethic's Commissioner just found Trudeau in a conflict of interest today. What are you smoking ???

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I think goose poop from his lawn

You can get as upset as you want, post dozens of threads about it, but in the end, nothing will happen. There is no punishment for the crime. You should bring it up again, just before his next election win, if it will make you feel better.

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You can get as upset as you want, post dozens of threads about it, but in the end, nothing will happen. There is no punishment for the crime. You should bring it up again, just before his next election win, if it will make you feel better.

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Oh,we will. Bank on it.

I know you will, and it will have absolutely no affect on the election. I just do not understand why some people , spend their lives perpetually upset about things that are out of their control. Seems like a waste of a life when you are pissed off about something or someone all the time.

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I know you will, and it will have absolutely no affect on the election. I just do not understand why some people , spend their lives perpetually upset about things that are out of their control. Seems like a waste of a life when you are pissed off about something or someone all the time.

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I cant understand why some people are ok with constantly getting bucket hooped by the people THEY elect that are supposed to serve us and have the balls to mock those of us who speak out against these crimes.

I can't understand why you do not acknowledge that 60% of the people do not think they are being hooped as you would say. That it is only your opinion. Being upset on a fishing site about government gets you what? How has being upset about Liberals changed anything in your life except your blood pressure, and likely your longevity. Do you participate in actual political change, or just a keyboard complainer? Do you go out before an election with your candidate knocking on doors? Do you post your feelings on any political websites or only here where purhaps a dozen people (99% like minded), out of tens of thousands, post on the politics threads ?

Merry Christmas G.

Happy Holidays HJ. :santa::thumbup:

A summary of the Liberal disasters in financial policy .... make sure to share this one around, we need to get rid of all the Liebrals in the next elections....

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blog...s-need-to-know
As we end 2017, here are 10 year-end facts Canadians should understand and consider as we enter 2018:

• The total tax bill for the average Canadian family will exceed $35,000 in 2017, or 42.5 per cent of their income—more than what the average family spends on housing, food and clothing combined.

• While the federal government has claimed it “cut taxes for middle-class Canadians everywhere,” the reality is that 81 per cent of middle-class families in Canada are paying higher federal income taxes under the government’s personal income tax changes—on average, $840 more a year.

• More than 60 per cent of lower-income families (those in the bottom 20 per cent of earners) in Canada now pay higher federal income taxes because of the federal government’s tax changes.

• And that does not include the impact of the federal carbon tax mandate, the coming CPP payroll tax increase, the lowering of tax-free savings account contribution limits, or the proposed changes to the tax treatment of incorporated small businesses.

• Canada’s high and increasing personal income tax rates on its best and brightest workers have made the country uncompetitive compared to other developed countries. The federal government increased the top federal tax rate to 33 per cent from 29 per cent, and increases to top provincial rates have been made in Ontario, Alberta, British Columbia and other provinces. Seven of our 10 provinces now have a top combined federal-provincial rate above 50 per cent.

• The top 20 per cent of income-earners in Canada—families with an annual income greater than $186,875— will pay 64 percent of all personal income taxes and 56 percent of all taxes (i.e. income, payroll taxes, sales taxes and property taxes, etc.).

• As if this isn’t enough,the federal government has failed to achieve its election promise to run $10 billion deficits in its first two years and thereafter balance the budget. Instead, since coming into office, it has run deficits of $18 billion in 2016 and $20 billion this year, additional deficits of almost $80 billion are forecast over the next five years. There’s no immediate plan to balance the budget.

• Large annual deficits mean government debt in Canada is ballooning. Federal net debt increased to $727 billion in 2016-17 with provincial net debt collectively at $633 billion. All told, federal and provincial debt currently stands at $1.4 trillion and has increased by more than 60 per cent in the past decade.

• Prime Minister Trudeau is on track to increase per-person federal debt more than any other prime minister in Canadian history who didn’t face a world war or economic recession.

• The federal government has claimed deficit spending will help grow the economy through expenditures such as the promised $100 billion in infrastructure investment over the next 10 years. But only $6.6 billion of that will be spent in 2017 (only about a third of the $20 billion deficit), and less than 11 per cent of the $100 billion will be spent on projects that have the potential to strengthen the economy.

As we close off 2017 and look forward to 2018, let’s hope we see a refocus on policies that will actually improve the economy and lives of Canadians.

No point in adding new small issues, just add it to the summary, keeping up with the Lib idiocy, lies and corruption and payoff of the media would be too time consuming so I will just throw some more kicks in Canadians .... family jewels will just be added here when I feel like it. If you see something feel free to add it on.

Item 1
Federal tax changes download costs to Municipalities, result, higher municipal costs! Chatham Kent for example, big increases in payroll ($97,000) just so take home remains the same for Mayor etc.
https://www.facebook.com/darrincanni...89233278310918


Item 2
The number of Canadians who are $200 or less away from financial insolvency at month-end has jumped to 46 per cent, up from 40 per cent in the previous quarter, as interest rates rise according to a new poll.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/near...rvey-1.4262094


Yet the guy with the family fortune thinks a carbon tax is good, no concern about interest rates etc. ... no wonder his dad wouldn't let him touch his trust fund at a younger age.

Family fortune? Easy to look up, net worth of J. T. is 10 mill. S. Harper 7 mill. neither one is hurting. Does that make him privileged , for sure, but not much more than the guy, you are always touting, as one of us common folk. Another common man, Rob Ford was worth 50 mill as his share of the family fortune when he passed, that's 5 times what JT is worth. Got to figure Doug is worth at least that, yup another one of us common folk. LOL.

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Family fortune? Easy to look up, net worth of J. T. is 10 mill. S. Harper 7 mill. neither one is hurting. Does that make him privileged , for sure, but not much more than the guy, you are always touting, as one of us common folk. Another common man, Rob Ford was worth 50 mill as his share of the family fortune when he passed, that's 5 times what JT is worth. Got to figure Doug is worth at least that, yup another one of us common folk. LOL.

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So,obviously,you have issues with people who are financially secure? Is it your opinion that because someone is "rich",they can have no regard for people who aren't? That's a rather myopic view of life,isn't it?

Not at all. I am pointing out discrepancies in logic. Some people on here are saying JT is unfit to lead because he is a 'trust fund' baby, thus does not know the needs of those without ample cash. I am just pointing out that many others in politics , have more money than him and they find no problem with it. They say JT does not know how the common person lives, because he is worth 10 mill. How does D.Ford know when he is worth 50 mill? Can't have it both ways.

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Not at all. I am pointing out discrepancies in logic. Some people on here are saying JT is unfit to lead because he is a 'trust fund' baby, thus does not know the needs of those without ample cash. I am just pointing out that many others in politics , have more money than him and they find no problem with it. They say JT does not know how the common person lives, because he is worth 10 mill. How does D.Ford know when he is worth 50 mill? Can't have it both ways.

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I'll agree that JT is unfit to lead,but,it's not because he's a rich kid.

Maybe... that is for another thread. Just don't condemn him because of his bank balance as is done regularly, ( mosq), or you would have to do the same for almost all politicians. D. Ford, with 50 mill. 'I am one of you', I wish.

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So,obviously,you have issues with people who are financially secure? Is it your opinion that because someone is "rich",they can have no regard for people who aren't? That's a rather myopic view of life,isn't it?

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LOL. Au contraire. As an aside, my son is in a relationship with Glenn K. Murphy's daughter,( ex Gap ceo), Google him. A nicer man you could not meet.

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Family fortune? Easy to look up, net worth of J. T. is 10 mill. S. Harper 7 mill. neither one is hurting. Does that make him privileged , for sure, but not much more than the guy, you are always touting, as one of us common folk. Another common man, Rob Ford was worth 50 mill as his share of the family fortune when he passed, that's 5 times what JT is worth. Got to figure Doug is worth at least that, yup another one of us common folk. LOL.

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All I can say is that my taxes and pretty much cost of living have gone up enormously with the Liberals in power. When Harper was running the show, my taxes were dropping. So the way I see it, Liberals just spend and don't actually understand how this hurts the majority of Canadians, whereas Conservatives have to make hard choices to get spending under control, and helping the household make ends meet by lowering taxes.

So this isn't about how much JT or SH are worth, but how much our cost of living and quality of living is improving or degrading. I was WAY better off under the Conservatives (on federal and provincial level).

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Not at all. I am pointing out discrepancies in logic. Some people on here are saying JT is unfit to lead because he is a 'trust fund' baby, thus does not know the needs of those without ample cash. I am just pointing out that many others in politics , have more money than him and they find no problem with it. They say JT does not know how the common person lives, because he is worth 10 mill. How does D.Ford know when he is worth 50 mill? Can't have it both ways.

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Well know statistic ... those who work hard to earn money have a tendency to keep that money, those who inherit money with (1) little to no perspective on the hardship it took to earn it, AND (2) education in how point 1 can lead to ultimate bankruptcy if not respected ... typically those do fail in financial management.

It takes 3 generations to go broke. Gen 1 made it from sweat, and save every penny ... because it pains them to spend it. Gen 2 grew up in the hardship, and although they had a better life, it wasn't perfect, and their parents made sure they understood the value of money. Gen 3 ... never saw any hardship, and never learned about the value of money ... spend it all until they're broke.

Families like the Kennedy's, understand this concept well, and do everything they can to ensure the future generation understands the value of (and hardship of earning) money, in order to protect their legacy.

I do see (wrong or right) JT as a spoiled brat, spending our money recklessly. Acting like that Generation 3, in the example above.

.... "family fortune" - Justin Trudeau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSgiHuBSfA

Justin is a pampered loser that takes money from charities and has a "family fortune (HIS words for it) and thinks all Canadian's should pay more.... while he vacations with billionaires and has two paid for nannies.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mps...fees-1.1308010

A search of government records shows that Harper employed 6 full time domestic workers. Trudeau currently employs 7 , but the 2 nannies work part time, so the number of full time equivalents, working at the prime ministerial residence did not rise when JT took office. Trudeau let go executive chef T. Wasylko, a meat loaf specialist who has gone on to work for Rona Ambrose , to keep the numbers the same as Harpers. So essentially he traded a meat loaf maker for 2 part time nannies.

Any party that has a solid platform with an honorable and honest approach could prop up a trained Seal to be PM. JT may be a hell of a nice guy,personally,even if he is in the very top financial percentile of Canada,but,he acts like a jerk and Liberal Party policies are dragging us down the drain. That's why I think they've got to go next October.

Yes judge a politician by their platform, how they plan to implement it and the results. Most people rightfully assume that the caucus has much input in policy decisions, and that the leader is not a one man show . Except in D. Ford's world...... Heck even I voted for him, not knowing he would make all others in the party redundant . Personnel attacks on the candidates are usually not relevant and cause some people to vote emotionally and not rationally.

Stop worrying, the budget will balance itself. Peoplekind will make sure of that. Move along, nothing to see here. Our last Provincial liberal government left us in great shape right? Well if you ignore the fact they had double the red ink they claimed to. It’s only other people’s money. And hey don’t forget, the government now sells dope. Because it’s good for you to smoke right? Our healthcare system is underused what we needed was more patients. Sunny days.

Well anyone with integrity would probably not vote for a Trudeau after these last few years...

“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell

.. but sadly like Stalin, Mao etc. power and money and entitlements will help gain him accomplices in his:

Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

ethics violations
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle37393519/

tax increases
https://torontosun.com/news/national...aser-institute

ridiculous immigration rates
https://o.canada.com/news/david-suzu...aper-interview
1 million in 3 years....
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/imm...2018-1.4371146


and then there is the illegal immigrant problem...
https://torontosun.com/news/national...ion-pbo-report

pipeline fiasco etc. etc. etc.

I guess I won't be an accomplice to the destruction of Canada's future.


P.S.
There have been studies that sponsored families are doing much better than the gov't ones (even though the Libs reduced the number allowed dramatically) and still.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4888474/r...arrests-raids/

and of course there is the poor girl Marrisa Shen and another immigrant.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/murder...girl-1.4087093

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A search of government records shows that Harper employed 6 full time domestic workers. Trudeau currently employs 7 , but the 2 nannies work part time, so the number of full time equivalents, working at the prime ministerial residence did not rise when JT took office. Trudeau let go executive chef T. Wasylko, a meat loaf specialist who has gone on to work for Rona Ambrose , to keep the numbers the same as Harpers. So essentially he traded a meat loaf maker for 2 part time nannies.

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What, no rebuttal to the truth pointing out false statements?

I just saw on the news today how proud the Libs are of collecting 839M in 6 month of tariffs on imported American steel. Wonderful, isn't it.....

Well, that money comes from Canadian business, not from the US companies, so those business have to increase their cost or move out of the country. Our government couldn't find a better way to shot ourselves in the foot by making the Canadian manufacturing uncompetitive against the rest of the world.

And before some yahoo claims about buying Canadian steel, it isn't that easy because we don't produce all the steel necessary for our manufacturing (DOM, and such...) and our Canadian steel producer took advantage of it and increase their price by some stupid amount.

Libs don't care anyway, money grow on trees....

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Yep, and they can always increase the carbon tax or someting, looking back the number of public employees in Canada has soared and I remember reading the PMO costs went up 20% alone in the first year and the money they hand out, the lies about spending and deficits to the tune of 10's of Billions etc.

Heck PM Butts (he is more in charge than the dancing sock fetish ....) and another insider got $200,000 to move from Toronto to Ottawa ... wonder if they will expense the Ottawa to Toronto move.

Fortunately atleast the media doesn't forget .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0 "honest", "modest deficits" ... huge lies! ... and he can go back to speaking and maybe take a dancing lesson.... at atleast a lesson in budgets and ethics.

Yes just as I expected , no comment about that statement after being proven wrong. JT's household staff have cost no more than Harpers ,even though you tried to give the impression that it did, because of those nannies you dislike so much...

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Yes just as I expected , no comment about that statement after being proven wrong. JT's household staff have cost no more than Harpers ,even though you tried to give the impression that it did, because of those nannies you dislike so much...

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So,it kind of sounds like JT got the shyte end of the stick out of that deal. I wonder if one of the nannies is any good at making meat loaf?

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So,it kind of sounds like JT got the shyte end of the stick out of that deal. I wonder if one of the nannies is any good at making meat loaf?

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Meat Loaf.... probably not unless it is prime meat etc. His wife was asking for a bunch of additional staff for herself (on gov't dime of course) awhile ago but to be honest it is small change considering the incompetence and waste in other areas. Of course he has more staff but only 1 more, hmm, and of course even that is all hearsay from a Lib accomplice (no reference or link, not even worth paying attention to) and we do know they increased the PMO by 20% (staff at $8,300,000 in 2017), spending is what Lib's do... budget and accountability ...meatloaf ... nope!

Remember, this is Justlied Trudeau we are talking about not Harper, just look at the differences.

Trudeau - taking money FROM charities while an MP (according to record only 2 others (both Liberal but both were professionals talking in their field) asked for speaking money from any group.

- Flew private chef on trip.

- vacationed at Agha Khan's resort, the costs on that were reported way over $250,000 not including the RCMP costs.

- had different costumes at each stop in India... with whole family on the trip

- lies with a straight face from the start of the election to today ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

- NOW says they will balance the budget in about 2040 with $1,500,000,000,000 in FEDERAL debt.

- is known for missing question period and personal days off.

He is a drama major interested in making a show, not ethics and budgets.

Then there is Harper, perfect, no... but far better than the national embarrassment we have now.

- donated proceeds of his book on Hockey TO charity

- paid for own child care

- balanced the budget

- dressed and acted in a professional manner and was actually part of the conversation not ignored and laughed at as dancing sock idiot. Even when Harper went to India recently it was in the news he was treated with more respect. (* Follow some of the news feeds in other countries on Twitter, what they say about Trudeau .... :scream:

- was actually the one that stood and answered questions in question period, while Justin has others do it while sitting there looking ridiculous with ear phone in listening to... ???? I mean just look at the items on the list!
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-and-a-Summary

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Yes just as I expected , no comment about that statement after being proven wrong. JT's household staff have cost no more than Harpers ,even though you tried to give the impression that it did, because of those nannies you dislike so much...

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Who cares about +/- 200K or even 1M!

Let's talk about the big ones, the one that jeopardize the well-being of our country. Blue or red, this government has not been good and it needs to go, that's all. Put new Libs if you'd like as long as the act like Cons ;)

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A search of government records shows that Harper employed 6 full time domestic workers. Trudeau currently employs 7 , but the 2 nannies work part time, so the number of full time equivalents, working at the prime ministerial residence did not rise when JT took office. Trudeau let go executive chef T. Wasylko, a meat loaf specialist who has gone on to work for Rona Ambrose , to keep the numbers the same as Harpers. So essentially he traded a meat loaf maker for 2 part time nannies.

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I'm so ecstatic! He managed to keep his household staff at the same level. God save Trudeau! Let's elect him again ... please don't consider any of the other thousand moronic things he's done. Please vote for him because he has the same amount of household staff as Harper. LOL.

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What, no rebuttal to the truth pointing out false statements?

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Seriously, there's about 1000 serious issues listed here about Trudope head, and you defending him because of his nanny count?

No, just pointing out all that is stated about JT on here , is not necessarily the truth. Some on here play loose with partisan information , yet state opinions as if they are facts. For every right wing think tank report, saying he will be the demise of our country, I could find a left wing one that says he is the second coming.

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No, just pointing out all that is stated about JT on here , is not necessarily the truth. Some on here play loose with partisan information , yet state opinions as if they are facts. For every right wing think tank report, saying he will be the demise of our country, I could find a left wing one that says he is the second coming.

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I agree, I want to see facts ... and that's why I put it down to how is my life better/worse since a new leader took over. With Harper, I saw my income tax decrease over time, I saw him deal with a very fragile economy and manage, I saw a person who could uphold our sovereignty.

With Trudope, my taxes went through the roof, and not just me, he's taken away breaks for even the poor. I saw him spending money recklessly overseas, with very little to none of it somehow returning back to benefit Canadians. I see that relationships with important trade partners are a joke, and will likely hurt us economically.

What do you see?

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I agree, I want to see facts ... and that's why I put it down to how is my life better/worse since a new leader took over. With Harper, I saw my income tax decrease over time, I saw him deal with a very fragile economy and manage, I saw a person who could uphold our sovereignty.

With Trudope, my taxes went through the roof, and not just me, he's taken away breaks for even the poor. I saw him spending money recklessly overseas, with very little to none of it somehow returning back to benefit Canadians. I see that relationships with important trade partners are a joke, and will likely hurt us economically.

What do you see?

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He sees a halo around Trudopes Head! :D

An interesting comment, was the Lib win even legitimate in the first place due to foreign influence, Lead Now (US funded group) worked to defeat the Conservatives in 29 ridings and the Libs won in 25 .... NDP and even CUPE complained about Lead Now in 2015.
https://twitter.com/SpencerFernando/...51009521438721

Well the rhetoric and investigation calls are are ongoing on SNC, then there is this with a top aide being sued.

One week after losing his right-hand man Gerald Butts, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's top political aide -- chief of staff Katie Telford -- faces allegations she intentionally inflicted mental suffering on an ex-ambassador.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...-israel-envoys

and so to distract the Libs, John Tory etc. are having a ban the handgun/assault rifle poll and rant.... they know the Libs voters think with emotions instead of logic and fear mongering against the Conservatives and legal firearm owners and I have said it before this might be the cause to create the divide to get the Liebrals back in. They even have a petition on the go and are pushing it like crazy on Twitter etc.

https://twitter.com/JohnTory/status/1098965372898824193

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An interesting comment, was the Lib win even legitimate in the first place due to foreign influence, Lead Now (US funded group) worked to defeat the Conservatives in 29 ridings and the Libs won in 25 .... NDP and even CUPE complained about Lead Now in 2015.
https://twitter.com/SpencerFernando/...51009521438721

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Why? So that Trump could end up negotiating CUSMA with a drama teacher with zero business savvy? Sounds like the US had a great plan.

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Why? So that Trump could end up negotiating CUSMA with a drama teacher with zero business savvy? Sounds like the US had a great plan.

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Worked out to the benefit of Trump on the trade for sure but Trudeau is more this man's puppet, after all Lead Now was identified awhile as being funded from the Tides foundation and Soros piggy bank.
https://www.sott.net/image/s20/41841...e_Freeland.png


... and this might be real interesting...


Mark Norman's defence team targets Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas
Lawyers seeking emails, texts and notes related to vice-admiral's criminal case
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mar...utts-1.5029737

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Someone who actually has respect for the country, doesn't lie through their teeth, actually works hard and cares about integrity and has a dislike of secret agenda's, coverups and dictatorships, respects others but doesn't mindlessly accept things but thinks there should be free speech ... essentially everything that isn't Liberals we see in Ottawa. The Libs in Ottawa lie like crazy, are intentionally divisive, arrogant, take from charities/poor/middle class (as long as it isn't themselves), spend without a thought in their heads and have openly expressed admiration for a dictator that spread revolution and terror through out Central America and Africa as well as an admiration for a dictatorship that killed 50,000,000+ and runs over students with tanks, M103, payoffs to a terrorist....essentially complete mental, moral and integrity failures.

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And you forgot to mention that the Libs think the budget will just balance itself. I'm still waiting for that.

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And you forgot to mention that the Libs think the budget will just balance itself. I'm still waiting for that.

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Yes, now they are talking 2040 and then there is this promise .... here is Justin being Liberal "honest"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

I love Harper looking at him like that, probably thinking "This is what blowing smoke out of A&& your looks like"

No point, the sh** keeps coming and no one wants another 200 topics on the various sh**. The Summary on page 1 was updated with new Links awhile ago but no point... the list of sh** is just too long... and people still support them.


“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell



Already posted in another thread but Trudeau deliberately ignored and I would even say shunned
Here is a video that was just posted .... talk about obvious ... and the look on his face .... they were already talking about how the Chinese premier would not talk to Justin and that Justin hadn't even tried .... even though Trump is intervening for the two Canadians basically being held hostage in China ....
https://www.facebook.com/OntarioProu...3509171579899/

"Little Potato" told to man up... Trump raises Canadian prisoners in China at G20,
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chi...aive-1.5198249

Trudeau cheers anti-pipeline activist as star Liberal candidate
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...eral-candidate

Under Trudeau Government, Canada Has Fallen From 8th To 18th On World Press Freedom Index
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2019...freedom-index/



Canada, the fourth biggest oil nation, may be the world’s least energy secure
Peter Tertzakian: We could be a court ruling in Michigan, or a cruise missile in Iran, away from oil shortages
https://business.financialpost.com/c...-energy-secure


Libs want China's help in election...
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...nadas-election

Another Lib breaks ethics rules and gets away free...
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/libe...ions-1.4502190
Dion found that Liberal MP Anita Vandenbeld "attempted to use her position to influence voters' decisions to further the private interests of a family member" when she sent a robocall to her constituents calling on them to vote for her husband in his campaign to snag an Ottawa city council seat. She also sent letters and engaged in door-to-door canvassing on his behalf, the commissioner's ruling stated.


SNC forgotten?? Butts is back.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ger...tion-1.5218740


Following the ridiculous Liberal propaganda threads on Twitter using the repeat until they believe it idea ... the Liberal's are super desperate... over and over they keep saying Scheer wants to go back to the Harper days when pollution was free .... yet they can't explain how a tax will help. Prepare for the summer if LIEbral screaming!