I'm thinking about trying to get the no Sunday gun hunting law reversed in my wmu. Would anyone on here that is in the know about a process like this care to chime in with examples of,who do I start with?, township? mnr ?
I thinks its worth a try
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I'm thinking about trying to get the no Sunday gun hunting law reversed in my wmu. Would anyone on here that is in the know about a process like this care to chime in with examples of,who do I start with?, township? mnr ?
I thinks its worth a try
Contact OFAH. They would love to help I bet.
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X2. They could at least tell you if they've already tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
right on!! thanks guys
be sure to report back, i'd like to see sunday gun hunting in my area too. 1 day just isn't enough to keep me cool through the week.
If I am not mistaken, this has been tried before with no luck whatsoever due to the people of the City Of Hamilton, too many nay sayers there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jow
Where does it say he's from Hamilton?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
I'm in the no sunday gun hunting half of 91B. East of me in same wmu has the law lifted.
By the looks of it this has been done in other wmu with success,according to ofah website. I'm not close to Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
i think you were reading his post count as his location. now hes in WMU 89 on lake erie lol ... honest mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
haha nice catchQuote:
Originally Posted by parkcity
OFAH got it reversed in on of my local townships where I hunt. I'm looking forward to this fall!
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Nice!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Stewart
We just got it here in the City of Thorold.
You need to get it through your local politicians before the MNR will do absolutely anything.
Their involvement is to get a clerk to add your towns name to the list.
They're too busy figuring out licence fee hikes and revenue flow on dwindling populations. OOPS did I just say that!
My local conservation club approached city council with the recommendation to make a change to the current firearms bylaw to include Sunday hunting. They needed to realize that a vast number of other city's / towns have already gone through the process. Always nice to ask why you're prejudiced against because you live in your town? no one likes that word. especially politician's. Be careful because once the councillors begin debating the current bylaw they may decide to move some boundaries for "public safety" .
Getting Sunday hunting on a smaller area might not be considered a win. We actually lost a little land BUT it mattered not because there's a subdivision going in there right now. People from Toronto getting out of that nuthouse and screwing up the rest of Ontario.
You might get push back from guys who waterfowl hunt in SW ontario, they particularly like the late goose season like I do. OFAH attempted to push through Sunday hunting however our group with the help of others was successful in keeping it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jow
you're right on that one. BUT every other non goose hunter. including duck hunters got more opportunities to chase stuff on the weekends when they were off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
We struggled with loosing the jan late season goose hunt but some years the weather screwed up that entire hunt anyway.
When we looked at all the opportunities for ALL the other hunter groups it was evident which way to go for us.
What is the concern that late season geese hunters have ? (not being smart I just would like to know)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
They lose the late season hunt entirely if Sunday gun hunting is approved.
The goose season is open for a certain number of days. The late season hunt makes up the Sundays in WMUs where there is no Sunday hunt. So, as soon as Sunday hunting is allowed, the late season goes away.
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ok good to know,thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by welsh
The way it works - this only applies to migratory birds covered federally by your duck stamp.
The North American Migratory Birds Act between Canada, US, and Mexico is an agreement between all three with limits on how many days of actual gunning can be applied.
I think the number is 90 days (searched but can't find it)
So we're allowed 90 days of open waterfowl season. In the old days we were open from say sept 25 till dec 20 ... all 90 days.
good for northern Ontario but not so good for southern Ontario because we had no Sunday hunting. So we lost one day every week.
Didn't seem to matter to the MNR back then. Then with the population explosion some brainiac figured out we could get in a January hunt for our local goose problems if we just took all those Sundays we lost and applied them to late season.
This didn't help the duck hunters - only goose hunters.
So goose hunters got in the entire 90 day allotment and every other hunter of every other species stayed at the status quo. 6 days per week.
Now that Sunday hunting has been granted then those guys will be able to hunt every day.
I sure don't want to lose the late season hunt for geese either BUT it's federal and it's north American.
But certain areas of ontario actually shut down for geese for a few weeks to let the northern migrating geese get through Ontario safely so that the Americans can bang'em up later. ??? (they don't want our softwood but they'll take our hydro and geese!) These lost days to let the migrating geese through are transfer to other goose hunting days to hopefully control our largely NON-migrating flying groundhog problem.
Anyway I hope I confused everyone this fine Saturday morning.
I keep hearing about all the "other opportunities" but the math does not add up to me, I guess the deer guys get one day but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Turkeys, rabbits, coyotes, ducks, doves.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
yep... and don't forget grouse, pheasant, woodcock, squirrels i hate only being able to chase the little suckers on saturdaysQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
sunday gun hunting imo far outweighs the negatives of losing a single goose week in january
Sunday gun hunting is particularly important to those who can't always or can't easily get out on Saturdays. It gives you flexibility.
On balance, I would rather see Sunday gun hunting than a late goose season, but I can understand the goose hunters point of view.
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All those game other than the ducks are available outside of the waterfowl season. Again no advantage. I don't understand the rational to condensing the season, as a hunter I want to extend the season and get the most available weekends in a season. Sounds like most guys have work and family commitments.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Hey don't blame me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
We, as a group of hunters, here in our township, ALL decided that the Sunday gun hunt was worth it.
If goose hunters are passionate about their sport and they have 90 days of gunning - just how many geese does one need to kill to say it was a successful season?
In reality no one really lost any hunting days or opportunities. The full 90 days was still there. It was just condensed back to where it all originally was.
i'm not sure what you mean to condensing the season, a waterfowler gets 90 days no matter what, whether they're all in the regular waterfowl season or tack on an extra week in the late season. Other hunters straight up lose those sundays, we don't get an extra week of grouse, rabbit or few days of turkey etc. As you said most guys have work during the week and family commitments on the weekends. an extra day every weekend goes a long way to help people get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
I'm one of those people who laments no Sunday gun hunting. For me the entire Turkey season works out to like 5 days. Then stuff happens, family obligations etc and I end up getting out for 2 or 3 of them only whereas I'm more often available on Sundays to go out!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
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No need to lament. If sunday is your primary day do as I do find places to hunt that has sunday hunting. Plenty of places to hunt on sundays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Stewart
One of my landowners informed me the other day that I was "welcome to hunt somewhere else on Sunday". Just because the Municipality has approved it doesn't mean the landowners will consent. I respect his wishes of course and I will hunt somewhere else on Sunday.
Yup learned that going out on Sunday to ask for permission to hunt is frowned on by some.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanO
Well the good news is my township was added to the Sunday Gun Hunt list thanks to me bugging the mayor!
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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers