ON Issue #29 Sunshine List - 131,741 workers

I do think it is time to up the list to say $125,000 but here is Doug with the printouts so you get an idea....
https://twitter.com/fordnation/statu...49285996609538

Going to the bottom you can see the "benefits" of the Libs to the teachers, a whole bunch of elementary/secondary school teachers... I wonder what the count it by profession.




Ontario's Sunshine List swells to 131,741 workers
http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...131741-workers

Top 10 earners
Jeffrey Lyash – Ontario Power Generation – $1,554,456.95
Daren Smith – University of Toronto Asset Management Corp. – $936,089.48
Glenn Jager – Ontario Power Generation – $858,445.43
Bruce Campbell – Independent Electricity System Operator – $749,862.59
Mark Fuller – Ontario Public Service Pension Board – $745,211.84
Scott Martin – Ontario Power Generation – $739,854.78
William Reichman – Baycrest Centre For Geriatric Care – $722,875.00
Jill Pepall – Ontario Public Service Pension Board – $721,224.22
Michael Apkon – The Hospital For Sick Children – $719,694.40
Peter Pisters – University Health Network – $718,300.56

By the numbers
131,741 – Total number of employees on the 2017 Sunshine List
$16.8 billion – Total salaries listed on the 2017 Sunshine List
5,871 – The number of City of Toronto employees making more than $100,000
7,877 – The number of Sunshine List employees from Ontario Power Generation
42 – Art Gallery of Ontario employees making more than $100,000
3,650 – Combined total of TDSB/TDCSB employees on Sunshine List
417 – OLG employees on the Sunshine List
1,540 – Toronto Transit Commission workers making more than $100,000
4,881 – City of Toronto Police Services on the Sunshine List

Eyebrow raising
More than a dozen TTC collectors appear on the 2017 Sunshine List, with one raking in more than $130,000.

Toronto’s top cop
Police Constable Virani Abdulhameed accumulated $245,611.73 in salary in 2017. By comparison, Chief Mark Saunders brought in $337,744.78.

Gone but not forgotten
Ex-TTC head honcho Andrew Byford earned $346,791.51 to keep Toronto moving.

Lots on the list are worth $100k but likely more not worth it. Many get there through overtime. Hard to criticize someone willing to work the extra hours. Cops, nurses no problem. Teachers? Ehh....

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Originally Posted by terrym

Lots on the list are worth $100k but likely more not worth it. Many get there through overtime. Hard to criticize someone willing to work the extra hours. Cops, nurses no problem. Teachers? Ehh....

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Ya teachers don't get paid for overtime....or there would be a lot more teachers on that sunshine list...

I think it would be interesting to have an additional column showing how much overtime people are working.

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The Sunshine List is basically irrelevant having not been inflation indexed since its initiation. It's always good to raise ire against public servants every year though.

There is $16,000,000,000+ in wages on that list alone for the government ... it isn't irrelevant. It is still twice the national average but it should be increased.

Or let's put it into perspective per person ....$16,000,0000,000/13,600,000 = $1176.47 so say a family of 4 is making the average... which was in the 70s so we can call it $80k with the wage increases that is about 6% of their GROSS wage.

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tab...ovt62d-eng.htm
Public sector 1,330,805 $74,407,975,000

Date modified:
2012-05-30



Now we know they have hired thousands more, including the 175 job police so although it isn't as shocking a number as it was a couple decades ago it is still symptomatic of the spending with a firehose tactics of the lieberal's.

(* 2015 article)
http://business.financialpost.com/ne...ties-in-canada
A new study, which tracks employment trends from 2003 to 2013, found Canada’s public sector grew 22.6 per cent — more than double the rise in private-sector jobs

Ontario was 27% in that period......

You need to look at the impact and big picture... the fact the lines should be 125,000 or even 150,000 .... so, the relevance is the total, who etc. That a police, nurse, doctor etc. managed to get to $100,000 by working... good for them... an elementary teacher.... that seems a bit high, others put in overtime ... they WORKED for it... good for them! Most relevant is that the CEO of a public company is making way more than the same job elsewhere and then throw in some of the others .... that is VERY relevant.


Not thinking about it is what this guy likes ...
https://pics.me.me/looks-like-youve-...k-26047006.png

Set at over $100,000 in 1996.
No wonder 21 years later the list grows when the theshold stays the same.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

I do think it is time to up the list to say $125,000

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With annual inflation over 21 years factored in that would take it to around $145,000.

Many of the CEO's for these public corps in fact make substantially less than the equivalent position in the private realm. Now, should they make as much as they do? Probably not, since decisions go to a board of directors etc. and the CEO is generally a figurehead.
As for workers on the list...everyone has their own 'scale' they use for determining what their worth is based on one's personal experiences. Does a cop deserve >$100,000? Depends on whether I generalize them as all heroes or or as wasting time standing around during Santa Clause parades.
What I'm saying is that one cannot simply lump all doctors/nurses/police as "worth" being on the list and teachers/labourers as not.

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I know of postal workers, (delivery), who make more than100 grand. They walk from dawn till dusk. More power to them.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I know of postal workers, (delivery), who make more than100 grand. They walk from dawn till dusk. More power to them.

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I wish that was my postal carrier. Without fail there is never any mail arriving at my house on Fridays or Mondays. I doubt it is coincidence as the Tuesday delivery is always massive and than there is always a reasonable amount of mail on Wednesdays and Thursdays. I figure as long as nothing gets lost it is no big deal but I know damn well what is going on but leave it alone as I figure if I complain things may start getting lost.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

I wish that was my postal carrier. Without fail there is never any mail arriving at my house on Fridays or Mondays. I doubt it is coincidence as the Tuesday delivery is always massive and than there is always a reasonable amount of mail on Wednesdays and Thursdays. I figure as long as nothing gets lost it is no big deal but I know damn well what is going on but leave it alone as I figure if I complain things may start getting lost.

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Newman !

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Originally Posted by Species8472

I wish that was my postal carrier. Without fail there is never any mail arriving at my house on Fridays or Mondays. I doubt it is coincidence as the Tuesday delivery is always massive and than there is always a reasonable amount of mail on Wednesdays and Thursdays. I figure as long as nothing gets lost it is no big deal but I know damn well what is going on but leave it alone as I figure if I complain things may start getting lost.

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We have found that in the last 4 weeks , no one along our road has had any mail delivery on Mondays, and no it is not a new deliveryman/woman, it is the same male driver for the last year.
This is a Rural Route.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Newman !

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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by jaycee

This is a Rural Route.

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Same here

I also have rural route delivery, and have had the same mail lady for a number of years. She is not a Canada Post employee, but rather won the contract for rural delivery. I believe she has to bid on the contract every year.

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Originally Posted by delmer

I also have rural route delivery, and have had the same mail lady for a number of years. She is not a Canada Post employee, but rather won the contract for rural delivery. I believe she has to bid on the contract every year.

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That is what we have had for 40 plus years, now we have an actual Canada Post truck/van that comes by, and I do not know if the driver/delivery man is an actual Canada Post direct employee or not.