Yes, the kind of leader we should vote for. Being sued by his sister-in-law, but must be lib. conspiracy...... Crash and Burn....
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Yes, the kind of leader we should vote for. Being sued by his sister-in-law, but must be lib. conspiracy...... Crash and Burn....
Damn, guess I'll have to vote NDP then.
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Nothing new in the business world especially when you include family in the business. But it's ok for Wynn, McGuinty, Trudeau to rip off the taxpayer for billions of dollars .
Now thats funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
What happened to innocent until proven guilty....? At this point it’s only a timely claim
And brown has never been charged with anything knlybhad his career ruined!!!
It's called FDS...Ford Derangement Syndrome.
Not criminal, civil. Dysfunctional family. 16 pages of claims brought by sister-in-law. Must be liberal plant. See you in court!Quote:
Originally Posted by exgunner
The dysfunction of the Ford family has been known for years, nothing new. I would think that most family's have a degree of dysfunction unless yours is perfect.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Heck look at the Trudeau's, Clinton's, Trump and Rocket Man.
Apparently,lawyers for the complainant threatened that if he didn't pay them the money they're claiming,they'd go public just before the election. He told them to stick it,so,they made good on their threat. That's damn close to extortion. Where there's a will,there's greedy relatives and lot's of sour grapes to go around when things don't work out the way they thought it would. It happens all the time in the best of families. I'll consider the source and the timing. It speaks volumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yawn.... I have seen enough lies and spin from the morally bankrupt left and now this, I think I will take the word of Doug and Rob's mother's statement.
The lawsuit specifically alleges Doug Ford and his brother Randy, who are the trustees of their deceased brother’s estate, denied money to Rob’s children, Stephanie and Douglas.
Doug and Rob’s mother, Diane Ford also released a statement, calling the accusations, “false and baseless.”
“It is heartbreaking that Renata has chosen to bring forward these false and baseless allegations against our family, right in the middle of the provincial election campaign. As a family, our one goal is to ensure Rob’s children are cared for and their financial futures are secure. Renata has serious struggles with addiction, and our hope is that she will accept help for the sake of herself and my grandchildren.”
Renata Ford has had her own public struggles with substance abuse and was arrested following his death in 2016 and charged with impaired driving.
After all the NDP and the Libs the two main choices left are still far worse.
The simpleminded liberal apologists have sunk to new lows. Doesn't matter. They're all unemployed June 8th. I bet by Labor Day a bunch are in prison.
Please tell me how a Ford family squabble has anything to do with the liberals? This revelation says everything about the character of that family. All of the Ford children have been adversely affected by drugs. Users, sellers ,married to users, shooting family members who are users, and on and on.
Yawn...... sorry fishcan, all the lifejackets are taken. Guess you're going down with the ship on Thursday night? Ba bye!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
First Wynne, then Trudough.
exactly..fishcan just showing signs of desperation now...those morally righteous liberals have made stealing and lying a fine art in the province of ontario, yet somehow its Ford we should be worried about, what a joke...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
Don't count your chickens..... Au contraire BM, as a retired 1%er, it will likely make me more wealthy. I fear for the poor, underprivileged, and needy under ford.
Outlaw bikers dont retire........[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Good one I enjoyed that, but I was talking about the monetary 1%. Who gets in will not really affect my lifestyle, but I fear for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerryklimczuk
Funny, under the other two plans, the average citizen will become poor, underprivileged and needy.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
15$ an hour will make a difference to those who need it most.
Higher taxes (for both businesses and personal), continuing high hydro rates, reduction of purchasing power for all Ontarians, bad budget math, beholden to public unions to the determent of the electorate and continual running of deficits will make more of a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The liberals may not even be considered an official party after the election. Pretty sad when the premier has already accepted defeat, and is now just pleadimg for anyone to vote liberal.
Impartial research shows the deficit will increase the most under the pc's.
You posted this in the other thread. Allow me to add my sentiment than posting internal family squabbles in an attempt to portray a person as less of a leader is sinking very low. Criticize the person's policies, not his family troubles.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Not just beholden, oddly or interestingly enough Unions are in a business relationship with the NDP through a for profit corporation... no wonder they took the back to work legislation off the table.... guess what that means ... conflict of interest, possible collusion and to quote the Lib...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
"what is to stop endless strikes or emptying the public purse".
https://www.facebook.com/citynewstor...5351237181175/
and the rest is true plus their candidates calling for more carbon taxes, cuts to teachers salaries, sanctuary province and even seems to be some suggestion that healthcare will be a free for all... that ought to trash our healthcare completely!
The fact the Liberals are bemoaning the fact the NDP and the teacher unions are in bed together is wonderfully ironic.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
NDP will be an even bigger disaster than Wynne. This refusal to use back to work legislation will make the teachers and OPSEU suck the Province dry. Within 4 years teachers would be cracking $150k with even smaller classes. Polls still calling for a PC majority. If anybody prays, now would be a good time.
Someone in getting sued. They must be the spawn of satan.
No it's just normal life in the business world.
When a person's dad die here some time ago, the oldest son sued his younger brothers and sisters for there share of the dad's company. Did he do it because he is an A'hole, are the other kids A'holes?
No it was just the best way to legally transfer control of the company to the oldest son. The law suit was simple the oldest son saying, " I have 100% control and ownership of this company", and the rest of the kids saying they agreed.
Seems people will use any excuse to justify why someone is not qualified for job or position.
Anyone remember" his hands are too small to be president "?
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/onvotes/poll-tracker/
Looking good so far.
Oops.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
Obviously, those who are going bananas over this know very little about.
1) Families
2) Money
3) Estate’s and exucutors
Even fairly tight families are ripped apart by wills and fight over the estates. If anyone is clearly at fault, it’s Rob Ford, for naming his brother executor.
Regardless, while it’s possible Doug did not follow the will verbatim, it’s also possible Robs will wasn’t very clear. He wasn’t the sharpest tack, and that would mean the executor has to decide this or that, and if the family is fighting over money.....
First thing anyone will tell a family, especially when theres lots of money........name an executor thats not part of it.
Lol jesus, some people like the NDP are clueless about the
Real world...
Without disrespect if that’s all you got, I would recommend that you go find some help and hang up the keyboard for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
You were used to have somewhat class but now it looks like a sore looser syndrome. Your leader drop the towel so should you....
I don’t think anyone should be judged because of his family. A Lib should know better,,,,,
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It’s also worth noting, especially when the estate is sizeable, the first rule is to name a trustee for the children that is NOT family....Because
1) thousands of families fight over the money, get torn apart, end up in court contesting wills, going after executors, never speak to one another again.
2) The Executor has 1 job, the Trustee (s) another. And that job is to say NO to the chidren. “Uncle Doug, I need $20,000 for a new car....I need $10,000 for a trip to France, I need I need I need.
When the Trustee is a family member it’s harder to say no........and it leads to fights.......
So once again, clearly Rob Fords fault.......
There’s la-la land, and theres the real world.....
Say what you will about DF, all 3 parties are less than desireable. The NDP plans is Russian roulette but, because the they are the NDP, they want to load the revolver with 4 or 5 bullets. The NDP and the Unions bed partner, and many public servants have bailed on the Liberals for Greener Grass......No differently than many COmpanies have been and are bailing on Canada and Ontario for Greener grass in the US.
Some whine about Brain Drain under Harris, yet are in utter denial about the brain drain thats been going on for years and is getting much worse. 2017 saw a record loss in investment capital. Companies are leaving, refusing to come, or expands here...
Aka jobs for the working class.........
Andrea, the ndp and the Unions like to pretend they are the champions of the working class. So here’s her chance to prove it...What does she do at the first opportunity? Throw billions at an industry that does nothing for an economy, is more parasitic than anything else. Yeah sure they are.....
And wants to raise corporate taxes to pay for it...Giving more companies, more reasons to flee, stay away, refuse to expand
GDP
Debt to gdp high enough to make anyone sick. Her plan like RAEs is to ramp up DEBT and shrink GDP.......
At a time when the economy is on thin ice.
Moodys already changed outlook to Negative before the NDP/PC plans
Interest rates +1 bullet
Boomers and the impact on Debt ( +) and the economy aka GDP (-) when they leave . +1 bullet
Housing markets....+1 bullet
Trans Mountain and other energy companies....+1 bullit
Investment capital already fleeing for the US where taxes are lower as is Hydro and no carbon Taxes. +1 bullet
And now a trade war, that can only hurt us..and the economy....aka gdp.
Another bullet or two..
People, whether are politicians of parties who care only about winning, and supporters. The Unions are no different than the NRA/Republicans....
I wonder sometimes if the masses (people) read news at all, are at all even somewhat aware of events or life
in the real world
Very good post. As for your last point, I bet most people couldn't even name their riding MPP and believe only what they read from one newspaper. The press is in full force here today trying to make Ford look like a monster. Not many people understand estates, especially from high net worth people with large privately owned companies involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoR
When someone is trying to be leader of a province, and they are being sued by family members, for misappropriation of funds, that is important. Unlike what a child is wearing, or I would have brought up the fact his daughter was in the lingerie football league. That would be equal treatment. As for 'my' leader' how so? I have voted for 4 out of the last 5 winning premiers, the only one I did not vote for was Eves. Yes I voted for both Harris and Rae. And Bill Davis . I would have voted for Vic Fedeli or Elliott as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dythbringer
I wonder what party or organization coaxed her into bringing this lawsuit the last week of the campaign. Robs been gone a while, she had plenty of time to bring a lawsuit, she brings this up the last week......come on.
An interesting note .... I've seen in several blurbs that Patrick Brown's sister works for or is even a partner in the sister-in-laws law firm I saw, anyone seen anything about that from other sources?
Many of the articles I see I question their facts and angle but it seems likely to be true.
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018...ing-doug-ford/
According to Global TV News reporter Seán O’Shea, the law firm suing Doug Ford – Aird & Berlis – employs Fiona Brown, the sister of ousted Ontario PC Leader Patrick Brown.
According to O’Shea, “she was made a partner there on January 30 of this year.”
Somehow it will be made out to be a liberal conspiracy, instead of what it is , a bitter ex leader trying to get even, and/or a party in disarray devouring itself. Any law firm would have to see merit, before taking a case to court.
That's exactly what it is fishermccann. Clearly you are blind to it. Remember it's politics.
Ok. So let's vet Andrea Howrath's entire personal life and see if there is anything there which conflicts with her public policies. Is that is fair? How about we dissect Wynne's divorce to determine what effect on her children was when she broke her marriage vows to begin an affair with a woman when she has repeatedly promoted her role as a mother in her public image. Is that fair too?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The problem with bringing in a politician's personal problems is that you have to do it for everyone or you come across as hypocritical. So I ask you, do you have the moral courage to apply the same set of morals on a leader which you support and all politicians as you seem to have for Doug Ford.
When this all came out, Howrath and Wynne could have taken the high road and commented about it is a private matter and they are saddened by this news as it is a situation that many Ontarians have to deal with. What did they do? Wynne commented that she is worried about Rob Ford's kids (ironic because when the man was alive dealing with his demons, she publicly treated him like a leper and didn't care about his kids one way or the other). However, the NDP was worse. They jumped on Ford's misery like a female dog in heat stating "If he can't run his own business properly, how can he be trusted to run the province? And if this is how Doug Ford treats his own brother's family, how will he treat everyone else's families?" in a media release on Tuesday. You don't try to make political hay from a person's private life, it is classless and crass.
I am unsure where your comment about where I said you had a leader ("As for 'my' leader how so?) is coming from. Please clear that up as I never said you had a leader.
Wait until ford sees the books and how much more debt Ontario is in.
2X's Wynnes lies ... or more?Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
Ontario deficit will be double what Wynne claimed: Auditor general
http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...uditor-general
Attachment 37021..........
“The auditor said the government has failed to reflect the true financial impact of borrowing to pay for its Fair Hydro Plan, which shaves an average of 25% off electricity customer bills.“
So they take my taxes then give me money to lower my bill.
Ew I just threw up.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Yes. And it amounts to a hill of beans.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
She had 24 months to file claim. Her husband Rob died on Mar 22 2016. Her and her lawyers used the campaign as a form of extortion. ( Nice tactics BTW). They indicated to DF that he settle or else.....
Says a lot that R. Ford didn't want his own wife to be executor now doesn't it?
Looks like Rob knew his wife would go through all his money and his kids would be left with nothing. Likely why he left Doug as trustee to protect them.
how true
1. Has anything been proven in court? We could say the same of Wynne/McGuinty. Biggest difference is many on the left, be they voters, be they unions and public servants. Fast to hang ford, but took 14 years before they would admit something stank.
2. “Misappropriation of funds and not being qualified to lead a province?
Scuze me, isn’t that exactly what Wynne and her supporters (which includes the NDP) have been doing for years?
As I said earlier. Well documented fact, that when money is involved people do the darndest things. Isn’t Ontario in many ways a “family”....so Doug misarotating $ from the children. He’s scum
Wynne, the Unions, AH doing no less? How is spending money, big money on unions and PS and asking our children to pay for it, really any different?
Especially at a time when the working class and children are facing storm clouds.
3) is there meritvto the claims? Possibly, but one has to live in la la land not to question, the um timing. As stated one has to live in lala land not to know this happens ALL the Time.
Isn’t there a hunting family torn apart and fighting over antlers from a record buck??????
Jesus I swear the masses, maybe because the world is so full of shyte, me to and me only, prefer la la land, vs reality.
As for civil court.
Have we all not clued into the real world and why car insurance is so high?
Scum sucking ambulance chasing lawyers who will “try” anything???.
Of coarse it’s entirely possible he did what he is accused of.
And that shouldn’t be discounted out of hand.
However the body of “real” world reality suggest......
And well, have you greased the hand of ANY politician. They all steal, all rob peter to Paul (the supporters)
It’s why we are in the mess to begin with
Yeah I know, the reality and rea world bites.
Accept it
Yep,and she's already leveraged the house to the tune of $798K and can't make the interest payments. That's why she's launched the lawsuit. Rob was smart not appointing his wife as Executor. That would be like the mouse guarding the cheese.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
Likely. It amazes me people don’t see this.
The “real” world “facts” should be impossible to ignore.
There is virtually nothing in their plan that actually helps those people. She/they can blow smoke out their backsides (like any politician does).....but hey only the side I don’t like does that....
No, none, nada arguing.
Debt ( all things govt) is way to high to GDP (all things economy).
Don Drummond also spelled it out. What’s changed?
Not much
Except things have gotten worse for um. The people they pretend to care about.
Companies ARE leaving. Just read the news once in a blue moon if Trans Mountain, magna and more aren’t enough. Google
“Canada investment capital”.
So how does raising corporate taxes help the situation???????
How does putting more people out of work help?????
It doesn’t...
Moody’s
Boomers
The only people who will benefit is “ps”. More jobs, in an industry that contributes nothing to an economy...
Rural and small town Ontario. Just hammered by so much......
Much more...
But I suppose there are those (unions) who think solidarity is all that bs thinking for themselves..
RF is no white knight, make no mistake. He though isn’t playing Russian roulette, let alone adding 5 bullits to the speed loader
Debt........to........gdp