Hunting Camper

Hi Group.......I need some input. I don't hunt, but I am going to build hunting campers.
I have military vehicles provincially licensed. (Google LSVW). 4 wheel hi low diff lock.

What would any of you want in it? Beds, water, cooktop is a given.
How many people go as a group generally?

I know nothing of the camping mindset.

One person told me all you need is a place to dry your socks.

Anything, no matter how absurd....yes, I know, someones going to say tampon dispenser, but have a laugh, all in fun.

Thanks

A secure place to put firearms.
A water efficient Shower and toilet, sink.
Propane heat
Capability to plug in say 1500 watt generator
Able to sleep say 4 or 6
Place to cook like any camper such as basic propane stove

If you have no camping experience or "Mindset" as you say, building campers may not be for you.

Also LSVW trucks converted into an RV, are not going to get much traction when you realize that they have to compete with Dodge,Chevy, Ford and Toyota trucks. They all will run circles around it.

The LSVW weights 5200lbs( hook on a trailer and you need commercial inspection stickers), has a max highway speed of 98Km/h( you drive one at 98 my hat is off to you). The 2.5 L diesel engine get 5 km per L( uses 20L per 100Km) if it runs perfect.

You could add a turbo maybe, regear the diffs........wait a minute. Since that what we all do to our trucks now, and parts options are far greater then they are for a LSVW it would be a hard sell.

Just pointing out the mountains you'll have to over come.

Snow walker I'm thinking he wants to build in the ninche market like the guy's importing the Sherpa's.

I sure would like one of those Sherpa's heck I tried my Parents, Siblings, Wife and kids for a Sherpa.

Lol Toyota trucks.... Only thing they are good for us being pulled out of mud by jeeps

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Lol Toyota trucks.... Only thing they are good for us being pulled out of mud by jeeps

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Bring your heep...I got a three week overland Expedition you can join in 2019..

Wilderness camping, and travel. It can be a cruise one day and a winch festival the next.

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Busting four foot snow drifts and pulling a 4runner with a blown rear locker..AT the same time...

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Snow walker I'm thinking he wants to build in the ninche market like the guy's importing the Sherpa's.

I sure would like one of those Sherpa's heck I tried my Parents, Siblings, Wife and kids for a Sherpa.

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What does your wife look like?:joker:

Don't think I am trying to discourage him. It's just that there are possible problems he has not thought about.

Hey at least he's not trying to build an offroad truck out of a HONDA RIDGELINE....:rolleyes:

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A water efficient Shower and toilet

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Shower???..wow talk about luxury..LOL..

Toilet ??...shovel...maybe folding blue bag chair...high end is a chemical toilet..LOL..

I guess it depends on what the client market is....I lived out of the back of many military vehicles for weeks on end in places like Wainwright Alberta...the benches you worked on during the day became beds to sleep on at night. Coleman stoves for cooking outside on the tailgate.

I think the closest thing to a "hunting trailer" on the market these days are the toy haulers where you can flip/slide down a bed space where your atv was parked. We currently accomodate 4 guys in an old 25' camper on bear hunts. Things I would like to see in a hunt focused trailer:
- led lighting inside & out
- solar panel options
- larger than avg water tank or auxiliary tank option.
- bunks. No bed. Just several bunks.
- atv/gear storage option (hoy hauler)
- lockable gun / equipment storage
- large awning(s) to keep gear dry on rainy days
- onboard inverter
- USB outlets. Even some of our flashlights charge with usb connectors.
- external BBQ
- high ground clearance
And most importantly, mosquito and black fly tight.

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Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher

I think the closest thing to a "hunting trailer" on the market these days are the toy haulers where you can flip/slide down a bed space where your atv was parked. We currently accomodate 4 guys in an old 25' camper on bear hunts. Things I would like to see in a hunt focused trailer:
- led lighting inside & out
- solar panel options
- larger than avg water tank or auxiliary tank option.
- bunks. No bed. Just several bunks.
- atv/gear storage option (hoy hauler)
- lockable gun / equipment storage
- large awning(s) to keep gear dry on rainy days
- onboard inverter
- USB outlets. Even some of our flashlights charge with usb connectors.
- external BBQ
- high ground clearance
And most importantly, mosquito and black fly tight.

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You mean like this?
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Yes that is a 20 liter gas can beside the tire.

Suggestions:
OFF-ROAD HITCH. No 2" ball hitch BS.
A true three axis offroad hitch.

Thanks Snowwalker.
What I want to do is provide a mobile base camp, rather than compete with commercial 4 x 4's. Top end for me is 85 kph with the turbo, by choice.
What I need to know are the basic requirements for inside the camper portion.

I will have a 2000 watt quiet gen set, as well as a 2000 watt power inverter. There will be 4 AGM batteries on board to run 12 volt lighting, fridge, AC etc.
This will be a one fuel (diesel) vehicle for cooktop, camper heater, coolant heater and whatever else I, or, someone else can think of.

Exactly! A niche market. Thanks for the observation.

Does it come with cab soundproofing, last time I was in one I near came out deaf.

She's quite old she turned 50 this year.

Someone tried to turn a Ridgeline into an offload truck, can they even go off pavement. :)

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

What does your wife look like?:joker:

Don't think I am trying to discourage him. It's just that there are possible problems he has not thought about.

Hey at least he's not trying to build an offroad truck out of a HONDA RIDGELINE....:rolleyes:

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She's quite old she turned 50 this year.

Someone tried to turn a Ridgeline into an offload truck, can they even go off pavement. :)

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well that would be upgrading to a younger model.

Offroad? well they are 4WD, but I would say they would be suited to "offroad" as far as parking in the grass. They are not a truck, more like a minivan with a birth defect.

Oh Much younger Model. Years ago when my wife and I were returning something at Xmas at Walmart, I asked the woman behind the counter if I could exchange my wife for a younger model. Neither thought it was funny, but I did.

I figured Yuppies probably drove those Ridgelines.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

well that would be upgrading to a younger model.

Offroad? well they are 4WD, but I would say they would be suited to "offroad" as far as parking in the grass. They are not a truck, more like a minivan with a birth defect.

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Oh Much younger Model. Years ago when my wife and I were returning something at Xmas at Walmart, I asked the woman behind the counter if I could exchange my wife for a younger model. Neither thought it was funny, but I did.

I figured Yuppies probably drove those Ridgelines.

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Well GW

- you really know how to sweet talk the gals!

This might explain why your surfing and playing on the internet at 2:51 AM. :silly:

I'm just having a Smoke and relaxing now.

Been Married 22 years this year, not many make it that far. Yup Long long long years.

For her Birthday I place a number 6 candle and a 0 Candle on it she keeps saying shes 50 and I keep saying you can't be you look 60.

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Well GW

- you really know how to sweet talk the gals!

This might explain why your surfing and playing on the internet at 2:51 AM. :silly:

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Screened roof venting like on a camper trailer. Two is better than one. Better add some ouyside belly lockers to hold the cadavers when someones rotten bum kills four men in their sleep. Stag chilli, coleslaw, and pepperettes washed down with beer. Five go in the box.... only one comes out walking in the morning.

Do I understand correctly your thinking some sort of portable camp, but not a trailer?

LOLOLOL

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Screened roof venting like on a camper trailer. Two is better than one. Better add some ouyside belly lockers to hold the cadavers when someones rotten bum kills four men in their sleep. Stag chilli, coleslaw, and pepperettes washed down with beer. Five go in the box.... only one comes out walking in the morning.

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I struggled for a few years with what I wanted and settled on a truck camper. I can drop in place (provided the ground is levelish), a dry place to sleep and get warmed up, safety on crown land from bears (a problem where I go), easy to store, easy to get around in the woods (save cutting a few high tree limbs), plus it leaves the truck hitch open to pull other toys or trailers with gear.

I searched for a year, to find one in my price range ($350) and lucked out. Over the last few years I have owned it, done lots of little repairs. It has:

Heat - Propane
LED Lights (.085 watts X 6)- project replacement
100 Watts of solar panels (plus a 40Watt portable panel W/12V marine grade battery, trolling motor and fish finder)
2 X 6 volt golf cart batteries for 12V volt system (440 APH of storage at 10 amp draw)
Two burner Stove - Propane
No Toilet
Removed water tank for extra storage (5 Gallon blue water jugs)
Sink is functional (wash dishes, clean up)
No Fridge - Freeze plastic water bottles for coolers, that stay in truck cab
19" Led TV (23 watt), with USB computer Speakers (2 watts) for entertainment (connected to Hard Drive (6 watts)with 600 Movies)
With all lights/TV/Speakers total draw is 67 watts
800 watt inverter (26 watts when in use)
4 X USB/9V marine grade switched charging stations (phones, GPS, Radios, Tablet, Laptop)
I have never run out of power even after 4 days of no sun
Dollar store puck lights, with dollar store batteries (for individual night lighting)
I also carry a 5K geny, BBQ, Turkey Fryer burner, tables, pop up shelter and comfort items.

Like others have said, warm space to sleep, basic needs to cook, and power, everything else is comfort related.

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For the cost outlay of what you are purposing, your ROI will take a long time to recover. Just the cost of build (4-5K per unit), and transport to crown land say 100KM, would not make it feasible IMHO. You would be better with a Yukon tent set up, that you could cut the poles for frame and build on site (for client), provide Propane stoves, lights and heater (using 100lb tank) and a gen set, much more cost effective. You could use that LSVW (I am qualified), as transport vehicle for two or three "camp set ups" for clients.

If money is not a problem for clients (high end), then go for it, it would be a unique Canadian experience, but lots of logistics to overcome. Most of the crown land hunt areas for deer season are barren and void the week before deer season...even if you recce a few spots, no guarantee they will be open when you show up. So as life on Crown land, if you have private property, that would be better.

My two cents

I would recommend a separate drying compartment for hunt clothes. Theres nothing worse than having your clothes dry and smelling like cigarette smoke or deep fryer fat.


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I would recommend a separate drying compartment for hunt clothes. Theres nothing worse than having your clothes dry and smelling like cigarette smoke or deep fryer fat.


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Hunting chickens and waterfowling is nice that way... Birds don't normally have a good sense of smell.
Of course after I put out a couple dozen decoys in a mucky stinky pond, there is more then enough "Cover sent" to hide the coffee and blue cheese from breakfast or lunch..

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

If you have no camping experience or "Mindset" as you say, building campers may not be for you.

Also LSVW trucks converted into an RV, are not going to get much traction when you realize that they have to compete with Dodge,Chevy, Ford and Toyota trucks. They all will run circles around it.

The LSVW weights 5200lbs( hook on a trailer and you need commercial inspection stickers), has a max highway speed of 98Km/h( you drive one at 98 my hat is off to you). The 2.5 L diesel engine get 5 km per L( uses 20L per 100Km) if it runs perfect.

You could add a turbo maybe, regear the diffs........wait a minute. Since that what we all do to our trucks now, and parts options are far greater then they are for a LSVW it would be a hard sell.

Just pointing out the mountains you'll have to over come.

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What he said.

if I had the money...
http://www.petersenshunting.com/whee...ting-trailers/

ok this one!
https://youtu.be/llq3y-FwyBo

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

ok this one!
https://youtu.be/llq3y-FwyBo

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Just remember that except for the Victoria highlands and tasmania, it does not get near as cold as here in Canada. An outside kitchen at -20 could make the eggs a little hard before they even hit the pan.

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

if I had the money...

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If money was not a problem than I'd be going custom and get a build based on a Unimog:

http://www.bimobil.com/wp-content/up...07/MFL4340.jpg

Portal axles give you 18 inches of clearance and the flexible frame is better on uneven terrain than the rigid frames typical of most off-road vehicles.

This is good for Australian wether everything is accessible from outside ....
In Canada the temperature - wether is different so de requirement is to ....
Hard walls box for camper is required .... Only Campfire and the chair is needed outside ...
Ultra small gas fireplace and the lazy boy chair and a good size bed inside .....
Coller-freezer to store and stove to warm up the food and make a tea ....
Ultra small shower to clean ...
To rest and relax after hunt ....
And dryer to dry the wet clothing .... at end of the day.....

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

ok this one!
https://youtu.be/llq3y-FwyBo

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Originally Posted by Species8472

If money was not a problem than I'd be going custom and get a build based on a Unimog:

http://www.bimobil.com/wp-content/up...07/MFL4340.jpg

Portal axles give you 18 inches of clearance and the flexible frame is better on uneven terrain than the rigid frames typical of most off-road vehicles.

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Toyota trucks and SUV's can be fitted with portal axles as well. Some are a full axle, and others a knuckle units( replacing the stock knuckles).

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Originally Posted by line052

I struggled for a few years with what I wanted and settled on a truck camper. I can drop in place (provided the ground is levelish), a dry place to sleep and get warmed up, safety on crown land from bears (a problem where I go), easy to store, easy to get around in the woods (save cutting a few high tree limbs), plus it leaves the truck hitch open to pull other toys or trailers with gear.

I searched for a year, to find one in my price range ($350) and lucked out. Over the last few years I have owned it, done lots of little repairs. It has:

Heat - Propane
LED Lights (.085 watts X 6)- project replacement
100 Watts of solar panels (plus a 40Watt portable panel W/12V marine grade battery, trolling motor and fish finder)
2 X 6 volt golf cart batteries for 12V volt system (440 APH of storage at 10 amp draw)
Two burner Stove - Propane
No Toilet
Removed water tank for extra storage (5 Gallon blue water jugs)
Sink is functional (wash dishes, clean up)
No Fridge - Freeze plastic water bottles for coolers, that stay in truck cab
19" Led TV (23 watt), with USB computer Speakers (2 watts) for entertainment (connected to Hard Drive (6 watts)with 600 Movies)
With all lights/TV/Speakers total draw is 67 watts
800 watt inverter (26 watts when in use)
4 X USB/9V marine grade switched charging stations (phones, GPS, Radios, Tablet, Laptop)
I have never run out of power even after 4 days of no sun
Dollar store puck lights, with dollar store batteries (for individual night lighting)
I also carry a 5K geny, BBQ, Turkey Fryer burner, tables, pop up shelter and comfort items.

Like others have said, warm space to sleep, basic needs to cook, and power, everything else is comfort related.

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Sounds and looks like you've got a great little rig there! I did the camper thing myself a few years ago, but it was just too small for my wife n I and the dog. So, picked up an old trailer (cheap$) and rebuilt it. We have our cabin to spend most of our leisure time but we both love to get out in the boonies and camp.

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Originally Posted by alfoldivandor

This is good for Australian wether everything is accessible from outside ....
In Canada the temperature - wether is different so de requirement is to ....
Hard walls box for camper is required .... Only Campfire and the chair is needed outside ...
Ultra small gas fireplace and the lazy boy chair and a good size bed inside .....
Coller-freezer to store and stove to warm up the food and make a tea ....
Ultra small shower to clean ...
To rest and relax after hunt ....
And dryer to dry the wet clothing .... at end of the day.....

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Maybe more like this
https://www.blackseriescamper.com/hq17.html

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Maybe more like this
https://www.blackseriescamper.com/hq17.html

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Problem is that once you buy it, have it shipped from OZ to Canada, pay tax and duties. You still have to deal with the fact that the lightest one is 4600Lbs, and the largest is 6500lbs.

We need a serious offroad camper from a North American manufacturer.

Every offroad trailer( not a camper) I have seen that is made here has less room then a 5 X 6 garden/utility trailer. But cost over 8 grand.