No High Risk: Marijuana May be Less Harmful Than Alcohol, Tobacco

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/le...-shows-n312876

This report came out in 2015, people need to calm down about the legalization in Canada, it is not a big deal and it will probably not increase the number of users by a great deal.

There are risks to young people, this is why it will be illegal to sell to them. You will claim that they will still get their hands on it, valid point, but they get their hands on illegal booze all the time and nobody is crying to ban booze again, even though it is proven to be significantly worse to the body and to the health care system.

Read all the articles, make sure they are valid, make a decision for yourself and accept the consequences of those choices either way.

Doctors have been prescribing cannabis for years to hundreds of thousands of patients across the country to treat many many types of illnesses. Alcohol destroys cells and tobacco well we all are aware of the health problems it causes. There is nothing beneficial to the body from alcohol or tobacco, only negative effects. Can't say the same about cannabis, as its used in the medical world for treatment options.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Doctors have been prescribing cannabis for years to hundreds of thousands of patients across the country to treat many many types of illnesses. Alcohol destroys cells and tobacco well we all are aware of the health problems it causes. There is nothing beneficial to the body from alcohol or tobacco, only negative effects. Can't say the same about cannabis, as its used in the medical world for treatment options.

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Much safer than the Opioids that doctors have been pushing on people for years, maybe people are so up in arms about it because it is easily grown in most places in the world, cheap meds and cheap recreation, tough on corporations and taxes.

Smoking anything is not healthy. If you want the benefits , you can ingest this in much more healthy ways.

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Originally Posted by JMatthews

Smoking anything is not healthy. If you want the benefits , you can ingest this in much more healthy ways.

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Brownies:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by JMatthews

Smoking anything is not healthy. If you want the benefits , you can ingest this in much more healthy ways.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Brownies:thumbup:

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Edibles are illegal under the new law? Basicly you smoke it or it is illegal.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Edibles are illegal under the new law. Basicly you smoke it or it is illegal.

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No, not correct.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/cannabis/

You cannot buy edibles, you can make what ever you want with it, you can buy dried and oil.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Brownies:thumbup:

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Andrew Monte, a professor of emergency medicine at the University of Colorado School of Medicine,says.

"Edibles unpredictable "
That can lead users to "stack doses," he said. "In my opinion, edible agents are not consistent with what a recreational user is looking for to get high."
Drawing from his clinical experience, Monte cautioned against making recreational cannabis edibles widely available.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Andrew Monte, a professor of emergency medicine at the University of Colorado School of Medicine,says.

"Edibles unpredictable "
That can lead users to "stack doses," he said. "In my opinion, edible agents are not consistent with what a recreational user is looking for to get high."
Drawing from his clinical experience, Monte cautioned against making recreational cannabis edibles widely available.

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It is very easy to take more than expected, similar to someone chugging a 26.

Knowledge of the product and the strength is necessary and use due care around those who should not have access, no different than the liqueur cabinet or the medicine cabinet.

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Originally Posted by Fox

It is very easy to take more than expected, similar to someone chugging a 26.

Knowledge of the product and the strength is necessary and use due care around those who should not have access, no different than the liqueur cabinet or the medicine cabinet.

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Now , you are an expert on cannabis ???

I am going to believe what the "experts in the Medical Profession " have to say, not someone that raises rabbits.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Now , you are an expert on cannabis ???

I am going to believe what the "experts in the Medical Profession " have to say, not someone that raises rabbits.

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No expert but I know people in the medical field, friends in the mental health field in Eastern Ontario, friends with chronic conditions with severe pain who have been given medical use permits for years, MS is a big one for chronic pain, please feel free to go up to them and tell them that it is a horrible thing that does nothing and they should have it taken away.

I am not a user myself but I have been around enough of it to not be scared by it.

Medical Cannabis oils are very accurate on dosing amounts, no different that any other drugs when it comes to dosing. A product is only as good as where it's coming from. Why would doctors be prescribing oils if they where unpredictable? A product is only as good as the source of its production

My main concern is that the legal age is the same as alcohol (19).

Medical studies have proven conclusively that THC consumption in any form effects frontal lobe brain development. Further, frontal lobe does not stop developing until the age of 25 ( approximate). This increases the chance of psychosis, depression, and other issues affecting brain function like cause and effect.

I've seen the after effects long term. This is my main concern.

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Originally Posted by Fox

No, not correct.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/cannabis/

You cannot buy edibles, you can make what ever you want with it, you can buy dried and oil.

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Thanks. News keep saying edibles can't be made, sold, used.
What else are they getting wrong? You sure have to wonder.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

My main concern is that the legal age is the same as alcohol (19).

Medical studies have proven conclusively that THC consumption in any form effects frontal lobe brain development. Further, frontal lobe does not stop developing until the age of 25 ( approximate). This increases the chance of psychosis, depression, and other issues affecting brain function like cause and effect.

I've seen the after effects long term. This is my main concern.

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Exactly. Based on the studies/evidence accumulated in Colorado( first State to make marijuana legal), the consensus remains clear:
Long term marijuana smoking damages the brain's capacity for memory and cognitive tasks,increases visits to emerg., and increases the risk for the development of a number of problems later in life.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...-term-effects/

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Exactly. Based on the studies/evidence accumulated in Colorado( first State to make marijuana legal), the consensus remains clear:
Long term marijuana smoking damages the brain's capacity for memory and cognitive tasks,increases visits to emerg., and increases the risk for the development of a number of problems later in life.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...-term-effects/

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Don't believe everything you read in studies. Many of them have their own agendas. This is probably the most accurate quote in the whole article.
"Even as some research has suggested that long-term marijuana use carries a minimal risk of physical consequences, such as that published in JAMA, scientists still urge caution. “Buyer beware,” write doctors in Massachusetts, saying that there are not as many health risks associated with heavy marijuana use as previously thought, but health risks exist nonetheless."

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Fox

No expert but I know people in the medical field, friends in the mental health field in Eastern Ontario, friends with chronic conditions with severe pain who have been given medical use permits for years, MS is a big one for chronic pain, please feel free to go up to them and tell them that it is a horrible thing that does nothing and they should have it taken away.

I am not a user myself but I have been around enough of it to not be scared by it.

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Where do you think I get my info from, people in the medical field, my doctor , a doctor down the road that works in the emergency dept.
I didn't get my info from reading comic strips.
Thirty years in emergency service, I saw a lot of it as most of our calls were responding to medical calls , where we arrived usually before the ambulance due to the proximity of our Fire Halls in the cities areas.
I have seen what it has done to several acquaintances , lost jobs, lost business. took a header from a 500 ft. tower, families broken up, none of this is made up or a joke, these instances actually did happen.

Been there done that , have you ? I don't think so , and I don't mean smoking it, what I mean is that I have been there rendering first aide/ help to some of these potheads that went overboard on tot.

You claim "you are no expert " however you talk a lot about it as if you are on this subject and most other subject any one posts on this forum. :angry:

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Exactly. Based on the studies/evidence accumulated in Colorado( first State to make marijuana legal), the consensus remains clear:
Long term marijuana smoking damages the brain's capacity for memory and cognitive tasks,increases visits to emerg., and increases the risk for the development of a number of problems later in life.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...-term-effects/

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That sounds like most liberals I know? Sorry, couldnt resist.

Legalize marijuana, but ban legitimate handguns. Pay millions to known terrorists but let veterans live in squalor. I think tomorrow I'll get a hoodie ,a kick packsack and some zig zigs. If you cant beat em............

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

That sounds like most liberals I know? Sorry, couldnt resist.

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That's a good one!:goodstuff::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Exactly. Based on the studies/evidence accumulated in Colorado( first State to make marijuana legal), the consensus remains clear:
Long term marijuana smoking damages the brain's capacity for memory and cognitive tasks,increases visits to emerg., and increases the risk for the development of a number of problems later in life.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...-term-effects/

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Last nights Nat .News, Dr. Monte was interviewed , he stated that after four years of legalization their problems in Colorado are still increasing.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Exactly. Based on the studies/evidence accumulated in Colorado( first State to make marijuana legal), the consensus remains clear:
Long term marijuana smoking damages the brain's capacity for memory and cognitive tasks,increases visits to emerg., and increases the risk for the development of a number of problems later in life.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...-term-effects/

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Have you looked at any of the studies/evidence on the long term use of Alcohol and Tobacco and their impact on the human body? Alcohol and Tobacco use can and do have massive complications over the long haul, this is very well documented. Have you looked at any of the studies/evidence on the long term use of opioids and their impact on the human body?

There are 2 things here, Use and Abuse, use in all of the above cases is just fine in moderation, abuse is where the problem lies.

We prescribe people poison every single day but they are not poisoned unless they go out and take too much of the prescription, heck, people do it with cheese burgers too.

Use responsibly and it will be fine, abuse anything, legal or not and you will be a burden on the healthcare system.

Sure it's not perfect for your health. Smoking anything isn't. Edibles and vaporizing is different. Still not perfect but still better. You know what else is bad for your health? Most of the crappy food out there (that people feed their kids), alcohol, tobacco, not exercising, air quality in many many workplaces and professions, think sitting in traffic woth your windows down isn't going to have some effect if only acute? Pot is not the boogeyman. People will see that nearly nothing will change except where people get it.

Worried about people driving while high now that its legal? Guess what lots of people have been doing that for a long long time, not condoning this its just a fact. Sure public spaces isnt the best way to go about it, guess what people have been doing that too, most responsible adults still wont do that and will in the privacy of their home. And I believe that novelty will wear off anyway

Worried about the paranoia? This isnt meth or heroin, this paranoia will make you hide your face in your sweater for a bit until you come down and realize you were being silly. Sure there is some cases where its worse than others, I know am individual who had issues with paranoid schizophrenia where pot brought it out of him so he stopped, but hey guess what! It was an underlying issue that could have been brought out by trauma, poor nutrition,lack of exercise, an accident, head injury, pot didnt create it, just was his trigger Which he recognized and changed.

No this stuff isnt perfect but its not the boogeyman either, I do not believe legalization will just cause the masses to start toking and turning into deranged lunatics. People are worried about it getting into the hands of kids, they are already getting it. Theres a small to large handful of dealers at every high school, the ones who want to do it already are and will continue, the ones who dont want to won't.

Its legal now so guess what else, ive been doing it for years! I have everything going for me, married and on my second house with my wife, in a good career, successful and happy and I'm a hard worker and morivated in my work and personal life. I know ALOT of people who are like me and most wouldnt ever guess it. Theres always a couple bad apples out there. Whether its chain smoking, alcoholism, abusing prescriptions, overeating fast food, never exercise and habe health issues they caused themselves and get medical care for. But the bad apples are almost always the exception, not the norm.

There's a lot of concerns that people will find are not real problems as time goes on. People are already doing this, so no more treating people like myself as second class citizens while my neighbour can drink himself into a stupor every weekend but hey, thats what we know and it's accepted. Maybe frowned upon but was (almost) always legal.

If you're worried about the second hand high well dont stay in an enclosed space with someone whos smoking, sure maybe hes a d*ck for doing that or blowing it in your face but tell them and walk away (most people wont just subject you to that) like you would with cigarette smoke, just because you can smell it in the distance though doesnt mean your going to get high and freak out. Hey i dont like a lot of the food smells out there and odours from local business or manufacturing close to residential areas or the guy who doesnt pick up his dog crap but thats just life, full of sights sounds and peeeeeyeeeeew smells.

Nothing directed at anyone here, its just not the boogeyman and really, life is hardly going to change or anything people are already doing this!

I do not condone using while driving, operating machinery or heavy equipment, hunting or anything, it's for just relaxing and socializing in a responsible way, giggling at a funny movie, enjoying good music or food, having deep conversations with friends,and that is MY choice what i put in my body good or bad.

So come on put me in my place, I'll have a toke, laugh, let it roll off my shoulders, go to sleep and wake up ready to work, hunt, chore and it will not impede any of that, never has!...except for the ones who do it just to sit around their moms basement playing video games haha yeah there is some who fit that movie/media stereotype but not all, just like not everyone who drinks is an abusive alcoholic

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

That sounds like most liberals I know? Sorry, couldnt resist.

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I was thinking the same thing !!!

Hey , I'm a conservative member. :)

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Hey , I'm a conservative member. :)

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:goodstuff::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:You're on the good side!

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Originally Posted by jaycee

:goodstuff:[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]You're on the good side!

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There's a good side [emoji1787] lol.

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