Deer seal question

Ok, so I'm sure this question has come up before, but I was hoping to get some clarification on a question I have that I can't seem to find the answer to. I have been bow hunting for years but have this year applied for and plan to hunt the second controlled hunt in WMU 80. I applied for and have a deer seal for bow hunting that says "valid for an antlerless deer in WMU 80 bows only season". I also received my controlled hunt validation tag which states " valid for an antlerless or antlered deer in WMU 80". I guess my simple question is what can I legally harvest during the controlled hunt? if the answer is both antlered and anlerless, it somehow seems wrong to attach a deer seal during the controlled hunt that says it's only valid for a doe during the bows only season. Any clarification on this would be helpful!!

All deer tags are good for bucks, but when it states you can shoot antlerless, then your tag is good for both, buck or doe/antlerless , controlled hunt or regular hunt

[QUOTE=bdog;1074319]All deer tags are good for bucks, but when it states you can shoot antlerless, then your tag is good for both, buck or doe/antlerless , controlled hunt or regular hunt[/Qmake sure you put the right tag on your deer
make sure you put the right tag on your deer, both tags are identical except one says additional tag, that is the one to put on bow kill,keep your first tag for the m/l season.
i,ve heard guys where fined for putting wrong tags on even though you are allowed 2 deer.

I know Judge said he ran into some trouble with that, myself, I would definitely take that to court, both tags are valid, both say bows only for antlerless and I'm carrying a valid controlled hunt permit for muzzleloader that states antlerless also, I cant see why you couldn't use either tag.

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Originally Posted by bdog

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i,ve heard guys where fined for putting wrong tags on even though you are allowed 2 deer.

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I could be mistaken, but I don't believe that is true. I read it as your only allowed one deer. The controlled hunt tag is not a game seal. you still have to seal the animal with your original seal you got when you purchased a licence. You need the controlled tag with you to legally be hunting, but you do not apply it to an animal.

In the OP's case, if he hasn't tagged a deer this year, he can shoot an antlered or antlerless deer during the controlled hunt, and seal it. If he is unsuccessful he can bow hunt after as he still has a seal.

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Originally Posted by bdog

All deer tags are good for bucks, but when it states you can shoot antlerless, then your tag is good for both, buck or doe/antlerless , controlled hunt or regular hunt[/Qmake sure you put the right tag on your deer
make sure you put the right tag on your deer, both tags are identical except one says additional tag, that is the one to put on bow kill,keep your first tag for the m/l season.
i,ve heard guys where fined for putting wrong tags on even though you are allowed 2 deer.

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I’m pretty sure the OP means he entered the draw for a doe tag in 80, and was successful in the bows only season. Unless he got an additional doe tag for archery, and he is referring to that additional tag, he is good to use his main seal on a deer indicated on his controlled validation.

Maybe people are being fined for believing they have 2 tags when they only have one...

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Originally Posted by GW11

Maybe people are being fined for believing they have 2 tags when they only have one...

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The confusion is regarding the additional seals you can apply for in selected WMUs
I applied for a doe tag when I bought my licence, for WMU 93. It was for the bows only season. Since my controlled validation says buck or doe, I can use that seal on either a buck or doe, regardless of it saying bows only season.
I also bought an additional seal in 93, which is specifically for the bows only season. I cannot use that additional seal in the controlled hunt...that is where guys have run into trouble...

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The confusion is regarding the additional seals you can apply for in selected WMUs
I applied for a doe tag when I bought my licence, for WMU 93. It was for the bows only season. Since my controlled validation says buck or doe, I can use that seal on either a buck or doe, regardless of it saying bows only season.
I also bought an additional seal in 93, which is specifically for the bows only season. I cannot use that additional seal in the controlled hunt...that is where guys have run into trouble...

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I hear ya... my comment was more of a joke. There also seems to be confusion every year where people assume that a controlled hunt validation is a second tag.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The confusion is regarding the additional seals you can apply for in selected WMUs
I applied for a doe tag when I bought my licence, for WMU 93. It was for the bows only season. Since my controlled validation says buck or doe, I can use that seal on either a buck or doe, regardless of it saying bows only season.
I also bought an additional seal in 93, which is specifically for the bows only season. I cannot use that additional seal in the controlled hunt...that is where guys have run into trouble...

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This is how I understand it. No difference than going to Canadian Tire to get your licence which will state antlered only after getting your controlled hunt validation.

The controlled validation is not a tag. It validates your deer licence to use in the controlled hunt. One deer unless additional seals are avalible in your area.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The confusion is regarding the additional seals you can apply for in selected WMUs
I applied for a doe tag when I bought my licence, for WMU 93. It was for the bows only season. Since my controlled validation says buck or doe, I can use that seal on either a buck or doe, regardless of it saying bows only season.
I also bought an additional seal in 93, which is specifically for the bows only season. I cannot use that additional seal in the controlled hunt...that is where guys have run into trouble...

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You can purchase additional deer seals for each season, in certain areas, if you have an additional tag it will say which season, and you will know already which season as the hunt code you entered indicated this. Your Deer License, as stated is for BUC anywhere in Ontario, if you entered the doe draw and where successful then that seal will be good for BUC or doe, in the WMU indicated during, in this case BOW only. IF you enter the controlled hunt, and you receive validation for Antlered or Antlerless, then you can harvest either or. The controlled validation is NOT a seal, and you DO NOT attach this to your deer, it is basically a License to hunt during that particular season. If you should happen to be stopped by the mnr, be prepared to show them that you do in fact have the correct validation clearly stating antlered or antlerless...if your deer seal, states antlered or antlerless BOW only, and your validation does not state this, and you harvest a doe, your in trouble and lose the deer.

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Originally Posted by hockeymjt

You can purchase additional deer seals for each season, in certain areas, if you have an additional tag it will say which season, and you will know already which season as the hunt code you entered indicated this. Your Deer License, as stated is for BUC anywhere in Ontario, if you entered the doe draw and where successful then that seal will be good for BUC or doe, in the WMU indicated during, in this case BOW only. IF you enter the controlled hunt, and you receive validation for Antlered or Antlerless, then you can harvest either or. The controlled validation is NOT a seal, and you DO NOT attach this to your deer, it is basically a License to hunt during that particular season. If you should happen to be stopped by the mnr, be prepared to show them that you do in fact have the correct validation clearly stating antlered or antlerless...if your deer seal, states antlered or antlerless BOW only, and your validation does not state this, and you harvest a doe, your in trouble and lose the deer.

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A lot of typing to say the same thing !!

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A lot of typing to say the same thing !!

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your right rick,just saying i know the validation tag you get does not go on the deer. its just that both tags say the same thing and i can see where some one could get confused .

People get confused with tags and seals and it's understandable. As the two terms are interchanged so much when the controlled specifically states that it is a validation tag people think it's another seal. Just wait until next year when you don't have to "seal" the deer but still have to notch out the paper seal you have to carry. there will be lots of citations over that one. TC

The antlerless tag and seal you won for bow season determines that you can harvest either a buck OR a doe. One deer only.

The validation tag for the controlled hunt says you are allowed out in the woods this week deer hunting. It is for you, not your deer.

So to summarize, you can be out in the woods for the controlled hunt this week and harvest one deer, either anterless or antlered.

Good luck!!!!

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