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Here's a very interesting presentation on deer harvest planning in the Kemptville district:
http://www.ofah.org/zonef/wp-content...16-185728.pptx
According to slide 11, I do my deer hunting in one of the most densely hunted areas of Eastern Ontario (WMU 64A). Lucky me :(
I feel for ya...everyone knows east of the 416 is full of Hillbilly Hunters HaHa...
Unfortunately I can't see the slide show, my version of Power Point is to old.
East of the 416 is almost all WMU65, 64A is north of Kemptville to the west of Ottawa, all them Kanata folk :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
For anyone interested without a new version of Power Point
https://support.office.com/en-us/art...5-d55bd9b231a6
right you are..I had them reversed...never hunted either :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Thanks for the link....I don't have an MS account, at least not one I've used in over a decade..so I will have to look and see what needs to be done. I guess it's time to replace my 2003 copy of MS Office Suite :)
Got it working, thanks Fox...
I like the 'Hunter Success' slide (10) ...It's always been accepted that the success number was around 20%....so it's good to see that is pretty much true, as the average across the province. A couple of Hot spots but some very large lean areas.
Also like their findings on the coyote predation (slide 16) :
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"Data from the Marlborough Forest Deer Study (Keith Monroe and Brent Patterson) indicated that coyotes are a much more prevalent source of mortality on adult deer than previous thought.
Predation events not specific to winter conditions.
Levels of observed predation on adult radio collared deer on par with highest levels recorded in N.A.
I'd like to see Deer Advisory Councils established in other parts of Ontario, such as Central/Near North. There's a huge disconnect between management decisions and what's being observed on the ground by hunters, landowners and business operators.
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Originally Posted by MikePal
That's not really surprising. Eastern Ontario coyotes are highly hybridized with Algonquin wolves. They are by far the largest "coyotes" in North America.
Those results were from a Marlborough Forrest study and I don't think the Algonquin Wolf ranges this far south.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
It is interesting that the data is from 2015, the number of hunters has gone down significantly in 66A since then, the deer population dropped too but I am trying to think back to when that was, it may have been 4 years ago, so these numbers could have been from that time when hunters were still out in force but the population dropped the year before.
I find it hard to believe that 86A where my dad is, has a lower hunter density than 66A, again, may just be due to the age of the study.
I wish we had this type of data updated.
I got this link from the OFAH Zone F website. It looks like someone from the Advisory Council presented it to them. I assume the raw data that was used in the analysis is available annually, but I don't know if the Advisory Council or the MNRF processes it annually. One would hope that they do and that they take it into consideration when they set the quotas each year, but with resource cuts, who knows.
This was good info from slide 16..
Data from the Marlborough Forest Deer Study (Keith Monroe and Brent Patterson) indicated that coyotes are a much more prevalent source of mortality on adult deer than previous thought.
Predation events not specific to winter conditions
Levels of observed predation on adult radio collared deer on par with highest levels recorded in N.A
I attended another presentation related to the Marlborough study and gave a summary here:
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...18-Ottawa-area
Regarding the coyote depredation levels, the author of the Marlborough study said that since the study was not designed to measure that, the conclusion was more anecdotal than anything else. The depredation level by humans (hunting) was pretty much the same as by coyotes - 20% of the collared deer.
I agree. I wonder if the ones that are already established could just get data from other areas and do the same analysis. If they can't do each area each year, maybe rotate areas each year so that each area is analysed periodicallyQuote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
Algonquin wolf genes are distributed as far as Maine - 30% of Maine coyotes have Algonquin wolf DNA. The current version of the Algonquin wolf is not been a pure wolf since the 1960's. It's now a wolf/coyote hybrid - that's what started the "red wolf" bs - coyote DNA is more similar to the extinct eastern red wolf that the Algonquin gray.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Wolves collared inside Algonquin Park have been recovered east of Ottawa on the Quebec side of the river.
I pulled this from a 2018 MNRF report on the Algonquin Wolf. Your right they have been found in Que but no mention of them in Eastern Ont.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
There is a map on page 15 of the link below that shows where they have 'positive' hits;
https://apps.mnr.gov.on.ca/ebr/docs/...y-strategy.pdfQuote:
In Ontario the Algonquin Wolf occurs from Killarney Provincial Park east to the Ottawa
Valley, and south to Fenelon Falls and Buckhorn
.
The core of the Algonquin Wolf population in Ontario occurs within Algonquin Provincial Park (APP), where they are the most abundant canid.
The continued presence and dominance of Algonquin Wolves in APP since at least the beginning of the 20th century, is likely due to historical abundance, strong territoriality, assortative mating and high survival due to protection from hunting and trapping.
The distribution of the Eastern (Algonquin) Wolf outside of Ontario includes southern
Quebec, north of the St. Lawrence River
.
Algonquin Wolves were once thought to have occurred across southern Ontario, southern Quebec and into the eastern United States Currently, the Algonquin Wolf is not believed to occur outside Canada.