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Why you do NOT tailgate trucks.:mad:
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I would show your pictures of the brake drum( 50+ pounds of steel) but it exploded. Any car with in ten feet( tailgating) would have looked like swiss cheese.:sad:
WOW!! That looks like a trailer axle and brake assembly. Is that what we're seeing,there?
Yes. That is a drum brake assembly, which DIS-assembled with enough force to break the steel backing plates of the brake pads and shatter the drum like a china cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The worst part is that if someone was tailgating and they got hit with these parts it would have been your fault.
Hit a bit chunk of steel on the 401 about 10 years ago, not a fun feeling being on 2 wheels at over 100 km/h, I was not tailgating.
What Fox said, I had the unfortunate experience of hitting a U joint from a transport truck, no evasive move possible, lifted the right side of the car off the road, slightly bent the tie rod and transmission mount. 4K later and I was probably 200 meters behind him, at first it looked like a chunk of snow/ice.
I see those backing plates often enough on the side of roads, I wish MTO would do a lot more truck blitzes.
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Originally Posted by Fox
Glad you guys only had $ problems and not injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
Fisher, those brake pads and drums don't normally come off. Tread off tires and rubber chunks are everywhere.
U-joints and truck parts laying on the road is more likely from a scrap hauler, or service truck losing it out of the bed.
Road side checks don't do much good because they can not disassemble and inspect components to find most serious problems. Many of the infraction found at scales or road side are things like a brake out of adjustment( 1/8" out is out of adjustment), uneven wear or too little tread on tires, oil leaks from bad wheel seals, etc. Things that the driver should be seeing and watching for. As in Dumb stuff.
A road side( even at a scale house) doesn't last more then about a hour. A proper inspection were components are disassembled requires the person doing it to be a certified transport truck mechanic takes hours, and then time to do repairs if needed.
It is likely the fractures in the drum would have only been detected by X-raying it. There was no Surface fractures on the drum seven hours early.
Fox, as to the "Fault" idea. There is a lot of levels to it. Get your car fixed or what ever, insurance guys will work it out. As for drivers being at fault, in this case I would not have been at fault or have any liabilities. There is not going to be charges against me, but the company is going to help you fix things.
The thing is that they have to show fault, a driver hitting something that fell off your truck cannot be at fault for something that should not be on the highway being on the highway. For me it was a part that fell off the back of a tow truck, I went to the left side of my land trying to get around it and smoked it with the wheel. That saved this part ripping my transaxle apart and oil pan off my vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
I don't know what they would do but since your vehicle caused an accident that fault would probably go to you, although not charges just at fault for an accident.
I had a brake light come on in my car, was low on fluid and I thought just because my pads were getting down. Light came on again, pumped up the brakes at home and blew out 2 of the 3 brake lines in my car. If that would have happened on the highway I would have been done, scary stuff can happen out there and often not something the driver can know about on an average day.
There is what is called a No-Fault accident. There was damage and an insurance claim, but there is no fault assigned to any party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
It would be like you parked at the store and your car rolled forward and bumped another car. They look at the parking brake and see that the cable broke and the transmission was in park.
Since you did everything correctly your not at fault, but you still have to pay( Your insurance pays out) for the damage to the other car.
The last few photos of the carnage.
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As you can see most of the drum shattered taking out air lines, brake pods, wheel seal, and air bags. Shrapnel sucks.
In my incident the transport truck was disabled about about a 100 meters from where the U joint was laying in the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
You sure it was a U-joint? Even on a transport truck the U-joints are not much bigger the an average sandwich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
I am just thinking your talking about something bigger.
Oh it was a U joint all right, after I rolled over and semi launched, the damm thing rolled over to the side of the highway, (east bound 401 where DVP joins. I had to stop and check my damage. I can tell you that thing is at least 9-10 inches in diameter, a car will hit it, a pick up might get lucky if you go over between the pumpkin and tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
This is a U-joint( Universal Joint)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
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It goes between two of these yokes in drive shaft or axle.
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Did you hit a section of drive shaft?
No fault means that each insurance pays for their own car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
What would have happened would have been a determination from the cops, you probably would not have been charged but since your vehicle caused it then their insurance company would have sued your insurance company, even if not in the courts, and went for at least a percentage of the money they paid out to fix the car for their client.
No, not the drive shaft. It was the complete yoke, both sides with the U joint inside that had sheared off from the drive shaft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Ok. That is kind of what I pictured from your story. There is a two piece drive shaft that goes between the two drive axles, and is only about three feet long. If one end comes bolted it slides apart and falls on the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
This is what I hit, not fun on the 401.
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I once hit debris on a road in Toronto. Damaged the front of my car. I gathered up the stuff and found it to be equipment used by hydro crews who it so happens has a depot near where I hit the stuff. I call the office and complain about the damage and that they should remind their crews about making sure that they secure their loads. I get passed off to the utility's insurance company. So after jumping thru their hoops I'm told that upon completion of their investigation I have no grounds for a claim. Funny part is they never came to inspect my cars damage or look at the evidence I had picked up off the road , not to mention make sure nobody else hits the stuff. I cry foul and the investigator passes me over to her boss. Same b.s. . The marvels of technology is you can find out all kinds of info … like who his boss is. A quick email to him in regards to my claim and questioning their ineptness as to how to do a proper investigation as to the fact that nobody came to see my car or the evidence. Within days I received a phone call loaded with Sirs and Mister LongPointers and apologies and that a cheque is in the mail to me. I chucked the other stuff but still have the linesman bucket and use it to haul stuff up to my tree stand.
Not the same as car insurance. Lets say your car is parked beside my trailer. Now the load of pipe I am carrying has a loose strap so I am tightening it and well doing that I break your side window. We exchange info and my company pays for your window to be replaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
It's a Poop happens, we'll fix your car insurance.
Yes, that is the way they do it to keep the cost down. The tow truck driver that had this part fly off it did that too, if there was a claim for 6 cars against that company they would lose their insurance and probably be out of business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
That's quite typical of every insurance company. They deny claims as a matter of course,initially,to see if you're the type of person dumb enough to take "no" for an answer. If you keep going up the management chain,sooner or later,once they realize there'll be a major shyte storm,they'll settle.Quote:
Originally Posted by longpointer
Part of the wheel dolly...guess after you hit it your car got to ride on one. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Yes that's the part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
No actually, hit it square with the wheel. The rim was dented to the hub, I pulled over and changed the tire on the side of the 401 at an on ramp. I was not sure what I hit but the tow truck driver came over to the side and said it was him and that they would pay for everything. 6 cars at least hit this on the highway, I saw a spare tire from an SUV rolling down the side of the highway, a few oil pans were ripped off other cars. The part swung up and hit my door, ended up with just short of $4000 damage, if they were not paying for it my old Camry would have been a write off just due to age and kms. I changed the tire and drove it to the reporting office, ha ha, nothing but a tire, rim and body damage somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
No clean shorts? :joker:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
DId not have enough time to mess my shorts, all reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
All those people who claim that a car will flip over and burst into flames when a tire blows out are full or crap, drove straight as an arrow and nothing weird until I slowed to about 30 km/h, then it limped on that front corner.