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In the market for a new truck. Im torn between these two. Any advice would be great.
My concerns are:
The Ford doesn’t seem to be as sturdy. Concerned about the aluminum body panels.
Resale valuation.
Also wondering about the V8 5.3 vs the v6 eco boost. How do they compare on fuel economy. Thanks.
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Ford by a long shot. If you like to pay more at the pump, Chevy will make sure you do just that. Owned a Silverado for the last 7 years, never again....
Both are excellent trucks for the money. I'm partial to Silverado being a former employee of GM. Properly equipped,either one will fit your needs....key words being "properly equipped". The biggest mistake people make is expecting a 1/2 ton truck to do the work of a 1-ton.
This guy is always worth a listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVZLzXEifk
Good watch. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
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Just as additional info. Im trading a 2016 Colorado. I owe 24 on it and getting a trade value of 28k. The chev has been a solid truck for me but has some quirks that I don’t like. Got nothing to compare it too but it does like its gas.
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This guy is NOT worth à listen.. he is a joke!! If anything, watch TFLtruck on you tube... they do real world mpg tests as well as the ike gauntlet worlds toughest towing test.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
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I’m a Chevy guy but I know have ford van for work with the eco boost and love the turbo power for merging traffic. Definitely not great on gas with a truck loaded with stuff. Also keep in mind the turbo rebuild if you plan to keep it. My new pick now is the ram hemi and I love it! By far the best ride and 12L on the highway and 14L in the city!! Effortless driving with a big motor. Rpms stay low even on hill climbs. Small motors in trucks drink more gas so don’t bother [emoji107]
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Either is a good choice. If you asked me a year ago I'd have said to go with the Ford. This years GM/Chev is the first year since 04 they have actually built a real pickup.
I had a new Elevation this spring and loved it. You will not be disappointed in the power to the ground with the 5.3. Fuel consumption for me was 11 L/100km on the highway at a fair clip over the white sign recommendation and 15 L/100km idling all day and bobbling around the jobsite. I despised the auto start/stop but I'm just that way, I want to tell it when it can shut off.
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My 18 Silverado gets about the same for mileage, you can do much better on cruise at lower speeds if that's your thing HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by oaknut
I've been a Chevy guy my whole life but Ford would be my second choice.
I have owned nothing but chev but the one I have now (2015 Silverado 2500hd) has been a real let down. Lazy as the day is long, 25L/100 avg, paint flaking off, 9 brake calipers, torque converter split and destroyed the transmission at 175 000k and lots of exhaust bolts. On the plus side it has 215,000 on it now and I have to rebuild the front end, that's impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by dean.f
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It doesn't matter what you drive it seems like everything has something that plagues them. It seems like engines get better but bodies and wear Parts get worse. I usually based my decision on fuel mileage and whatever has the cheapest problems to fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by oaknut
RAM Truck, get a Hemi they are great on gas and are bulletproof...nicest exterior and interiors as well.
I've been trying to decide between the 2 for some time now. I like that ford has more engine options with the 2.7 and 3.5 turbos, the 5 litre and now the 3 litre diesel. So you can choose which is best suited for you. But I seem to find more chevs at a better price with the few options on it that I want.
That's the key....stop reading advertised specs and head to a couple of reputable garages (not dealers) and ask the mechanics what to avoid. They know all the horror stories about repairs to the truck makes that are constantly up on the hoist. And always pay the 1 hr inspection rate to go over a truck your truly interested in before you buy...could save you $1,000s .Quote:
Originally Posted by dean.f
I have a '13 150 with the 5.0 v8, around 15 l/100km is the average I get, trailering or not. My dad has a 18 150 with the eco boost, and he ranges from 13l/100 km cruising, but put a trailer on behind, it jumps to over 20l/100 km. I heard a rumour too that the v8s are being phased out totally from the truck line due to low demand. Tried Chevy when I bought, not as much space in the quad cabs in the back seat. Got a better deal from Ford, so went with them.
I would have to agree.. I was born a Chevy guy, but I'm currently driving a '17 ram... the price can't be beat and it hasn't been back to the garage for anything in 50000km ( I do my own maintenance).Quote:
Originally Posted by kokes
The gas mileage is on par with anything else with a v8.. My last trip from Sudbury to Toronto was 12.5l/100 doing 120km/h the whole time ( when traffic allowed it). If you don't have a big boat or camper to tow, don't rule out the base v6 engine. It has enough power for day to day driving, and they save a fair bit of gas over a v8.
The diesels ( regardless of brand) are yet to prove themselves.. If you have a long commute to work on the highway it might be worth it, but short trips will kill the after treatment and give you problems. Also they want a $4000 upgrade for the diesel, so it takes alot of mileage to actually pay off ( about 100000km depending on fuel prices)
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So not a huge fuel difference between the eco and v8Quote:
Originally Posted by machron
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If you are using it as a truck and not a grocery getter get a v8 or diesel. My crappy eco boost uses over 17L
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You don't buy a truck if fuel mileage is something you are worried about. Have you considered a diesel ?
It's a changing world, most truck buyers take fuel economy into consideration now. Many trucks out there can best full size SUV's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
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To add to this: I have '17 5.0 v8 and my daily driving (50/50 city/highway) i sit at around 13.5l/100km. Running on the highway it'll go lower, just got back from Thunder Bay and I was at 11l/100km. That being said, I don't smash the gas like I used too. Also, when I first got the truck I checked the computer verses calculated mileage and it was close. So those numbers are off the computer, not calculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by machron
I read somewhere they're going to a 4.8l v8
I wonder what the wisdom is, getting rid of the 5 litre. I have a 2014, 5litre. My average is 12-13 l / 100 km. That’s including pulling my 18 ft boat. I had a 2011 eco boost, loved the torque, but the mileage was within one or two kms of my 5 litre.Quote:
Originally Posted by pand
The 5litre is pretty much bullet proof . I drove a new Silverado, that rode like a lumber wagon compared to my F150....the mileage seemed a lot less too.
I can't find the article I read this in now, just articles saying that it's not true. so maybe disregard that comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by pand
People that think 2 or 3 litres/100km makes such a huge difference that they wouldn't buy a truck because of that need to forget about vehicles altogether and buy a bicycle. They need to be thinking cabin comfort for long hauls,horsepower,torque and payload capacity. FFS,they're buying a truck,not a little commuter piss cutter rice burner. If that's what they want,they should buy some Korean Daewoo throwback POS. Sorry for the rant.
Haha, the rant is understandable. I get a kick out of the guys buying a truck with the best mileage then putting a set of 35's on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Lots of guys are coming around to the idea that 3L per 100 over the life of a truck puts a nice quad on the back of it.
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3L/100km makes a bit of difference when you're doing 1000+km a week. Longevity of wear parts is a huge Factor when you get to this mileage. In my experience driving a car never saved me much because they were so disposable. I can definitely agree with cab comfort being a driving Factor as well, my girlfriend has a Ram and I can't stand to drive it because it feels awkward with the proportions. The first time I sat in my truck at the dealer it fit like a glove.
I feel like most people by their vehicles based on opinion more than anything.
Get a Toyota Tundra. Yes it’s not the best on gas mileage but you won’t have repair bills and holds value if you plan on selling it.
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The manufacturers can build alot smaller turbo engines that put out as much and more power than a much bigger v8. You also get all your torque in the 2-3000 rpm range unlike a v8. They can do this with less weight and better mpg. Many cars have already gone this path with smaller turbo enginesQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Currently own a 2015 F150 with the 2.7 Eco.
On average commute with mix of city and Hwy I get 12.1L/100. Trips out to cottage and on highways which are 80Km an hour, where I can set the cruise to 92km/h, I have had it as low as 9.7L/100.
Hauls my 10x6 landscape trailer with my SxS, no problem, and counter to what other posters say, with the trailer on, going from Ottawa to Parry Sound, I had economy at 13.8L/100.
Zero issues with the truck.
I had 2 of the RAM 1500 diesels, yes great on fuel mileage but it you are thinking of diesel, make sure you do a lot of highway driving. City driving is hard on them and that was my biggest problem, would never get the engine heated up then shut down. I traded to a grand Cherokee, as I only used the truck for hauling my quad around. Now I just use my trailer and it is by far easier now, especially loading a deer in it.
I have a '16 F150 supercrew FX4 with the 5.0 litre and I'm currently at 12.7L/100kms. No issues with it other than a couple of recalls, which they all at some point have. Really impressed with the comfort & space in the cab, also love the real sound of the V8 lol.
I'd personally stay clear of all three of the domestics (Ford, Chev/GMC, Dodge). We run all three brands at work (like trailering, lots of highway driving). The frequency of repair on all three brands is terrible compared to the Toyota Tundras that are also in the fleet. We just had 3/4 of our Chev/GMC six cylinder trucks fail with transmission problems. Non-stop brake and tranny, engine head problems, driveshaft and transfer case, computer, electrical, issues with the Dodges. Terrible gas mileage with the 5.7liter dodge engine, brake, drive shaft, u-joint, electrical, and engine block problems with the fords. Other than a 1980 Ford f100 with an inline 300, I can't say I've had a single positive experience with any Ford or GMC that I've owned in the past. The best trucks I have ever owned are Toyotas. My current 2010 Tundra 3.1 liter V8 has 246,000km on it now. It tows heavy tandem horse trailers, landscape trailers, used offroad alot at our farm. It has been an outstanding vehicle. I've replaced the battery, two worn u-joints, it's had 2 brake jobs, one new park brake cable, and three burned out light bulbs. Other than that, its been oil changes, lubing the drivetrain, rad flush, air filters' and spark plugs. It was an expensive truck to buy, but after nine years of ownership I feel the cost of ownership has been lower than if I bought a domestic. I want to buy another one but I almost soiled myself when I saw the price! Good luck finding a low KM Tundra that's 2-3 years old, as they want 90% of brand new cost. The 3.1 liter small 8 has been flawless. Lots of power to trailer what I pull and it has always given me 24-26mpg on the highway when it kicks into 6th gear (I think this is about 10-12 liters per 100).
^^^^^ I’ve owned a few different trucks Ford and Chevy....disposable trucks if you ask me. I bought a new 16’ Tundra crew cab and will never look back! Best truck I’ve ever used. Tow atv, sidexside, snowmobiles with ease and geat mileage for a pickup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
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I’ve been reading all you comments. Thanks so much. Its great to hear honest opinions on their experiences. Dodge was never in the running. My dad has a dodge and it was a lemon. I now own a chev. I never gave the Toyota a look. Perhaps that my best bet.
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I drove a 2019 F150 Limited as a lease this fall for work. In 2 months it had two recalls. I don't know if they all have this, but the f^%$Ing engine shuts off if the truck is idling for any any period of time. Did it to me at a construction stop, at Timmy's drive through, and midway through launching a boat at a launch! The first time it did this i said WTF? Turns out it's supposed to do this by design. It did the engine shut down right when we were shifting from 2wd to 4wd. We heard a nasty bang in the transfer case then it was locked in 4wd. Had to take it to the dealership to get it unlocked. God knows what it did to the driveline. I wonder what the engine kill design is doing to your coils, ignition system, and your battery. Glad it's not my truck!
Thanks for all your comments.
Didn’t try a ram
Took out the seira gmc v8
Took out the Nissan Frontier
Took out a Toyota Tacoma
Bought the
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2.7 eco boost v6
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That's a pretty looking set of wheels, enjoy!
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Congrats and enjoy. Nice looking truck.
I used to have Ford's but had tranny issues and 4500 km after warranty they did nothing, switched to Cheverolet some 20 years ago. I am on 4 th Pickup and love my Silver, have The True North Package, its great on mileage, cruise along engine drops to 4 cyl, on highway getting 8.2 l/100 cant beat that
Make sure you do get snow tires for her
I hope that was an exception rather than the norm. !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
I just bought a 2019 Ram after owing GM trucks for 23 straight years.
Heard good things about the Hemi 5.7l and really couldn't beat the pricing with current deals.
I guess time will tell.....
Silverado all the way
Very nice. When i went thru the same process a few years ago I ended up buying a Sierra primarily due to price. But i do feel that the F150 is the better built truck. Enjoy that new truck smellQuote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
I am on my 3rd f150. First was a 2003 with 5.4 and put 250k on it... loved it. traded for a new 2009 again 5.4 ltr. Just traded it with 320k and went with a 5 ltr coyote engine. So glad I did. Mixed driving getting 13.2 lt/100KM. Love the torque and sound. Plan to put over 300km on this baby!!
Im puzzled with mine. I have a 1000 km on it now and my gauges are telling me that I am averaging about 18 per 100. Something must be wrong. I called the dealer he told me that this may do this in the break in period.Quote:
Originally Posted by networthy
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Yikes have about the same on my Toyota Tundra and I’m averaging 15/100 KM. At least I knew it liked fuel before buying it.
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Had to do a long haul this morning. Put it in eco mode. Drove around 118. Averaged 11.7 per 100. That’s more like it.
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That's pretty fair mileage.. if you keep your highway speed under 110 you will probably notice a difference.. Also I find that winter fuel is about a 1L/100 penalty on mileage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
So if you do the same trip in the summer you will probably be in the 10's.
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Not saying which is best, have 2010 gm 4x4 pickup, closing in on 300k, towed a tandem trailer to Alberta and back, 5.3 engine.
Have only done the routine maint. with no major repairs. Have never reset the overall avg. mileage which is indicating 13.8.
401 driving at 115 is high 12-13 litre per 100. Just saying for info.
Yep,that sounds about right. My 2014 is running the same. I just rolled over 60K on it. We drive the wife's Terrain around town. Big truck gets highways and hauling the boat and ATV......sometimes together.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogey63
See who has the best price and options. I bought a new F150 this fall. Between employee pricing and what the dealership gave me, I saved over $14,000. They also provide free services for the first 2 years or 40,000 km. This is a good time of year to shop around as vehicle sales are low now. Shop near the end of the month for better pricing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
Throwing this question out there. What would be considered the break in period for a truck? I’ve heard about 20k. I’ve also read that gas mileage will improve once the break in period is over. Im very curious as I don’t believe the turbo 2.7 is getting the mileage they claim. Right now it appears with in town thriving Im averaging around 18l/100. On the highway In cruise at 98km it read at 11.9/100. Any thoughts or comparisons from your trucks. In my V 6 Colorado I was getting around 9 on the highway. Thanks.
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Just for comparison, my 2015 5.7 Hemi Ram 1500 4x4 Quadcab averages 12/100 overall in winter. If cruising hiway @ 110kms/hr it drops to 8-10/100. That ECO doesn’t sound right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
It sure doesn’t. My 2014 150, 5litre gets 13 overall, and that’s pulling my boat. At highway speeds, I can squeeze out 9, if all conditions are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
I have a 2017 Ram 5.7L with 105K on it and I'm getting 10.5L to 10.9 in summer and 11.5 to 12.8 in winter.
One of my friends has a 2019 Ram 5.7L and he gets 25L/100 because all he does is short drives in the city but he doesn't have the 8 speed torque flight transmission with the fuel saver engine like mine which makes a huge difference.