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My Bancroft district trap line has resident coyote and once or twice monthly wolf visits.
Thinking of starting next year winter trapping for canine. Need the refresher on theory before getting equipped and doing.
Thinking of trying a combination of snares and footholds.
When catching in a foothold, it is better for fur value to shoot double lung or in the head?
Surprised to see on computer that chest shots seam to be more common to dispatch.
One behind the ear is better for the animal......
The headshot is quickest, but harder to do. Lung shots are likely more common simply because it's easier to do.
The wolf/coyote is not happy to see you and is not going to be sitting still.
Lucky for you your line is not in the Algonquin ban area. Google death ray, no holes, no blood. Fairly easy to make your own.
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No blood
A body shot can spill a lot of blood and ruin your pelt. The recommended way is to shoot in the head just above the eyes. Good luck with snaring them. Read the rules. There are a lot of restrictions regarding snares. Where they can be set up and how. Its not like setting a rabbit snare. You can’t use a tree. It has to be a free standing snare. Its complicated.
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You may want to check the Coyote/Wolf inventory before you start harvesting pelts. The last I saw,there was a huge glut at the auctions greatly reducing the prices (although last years prices were pretty decent). Canada Goose,the main consumer of fashion furs in Canada has announced their intention to use artificial fur trim on their products. That won't bode well for the Canadian pelt market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Tuna
Saskfly has another thread started you may want to read,too. Valuable information there.
You can make use of the pelts yourself and sell the products, as long as you pay the royalty for it. My understanding is that the royalty is based on what they sold for recently, which in this case would be very little.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
This is a conservation tool as well, funny that the same people who say that we should shoot every coyote we sell to save a fawn would bring up the cost at auction.
Some are into pelt sales while others are into pest destruction. Different strokes..............Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Bunch of rules around all of this and you need to read them carefully because like any outdoor activity they depend where you operating.
So my area I can use killing snares, other areas you need relaxing cable restraints.
All areas you need to be a licensed trapper to use snares.
The one big misconception I hear every year is that you can shoot coyotes and leave them in the Bush. This is not true. Like game animals and letting the meat spoil. Fur bearing animals you cannot let the fur go to waste “if it has commercial value”.
So you shoot a coyote in the summer no commercial value. You shoot a nice one in December it has commercial value.
Coyotes have the most value of all pelts right now but can change on any sale.
Tanning and selling has its own set of rules.
Anyone need links PM me.
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The key words are "commercial value" which is always open to interpretation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saskfly
The guys who are the head of the trappers association in this area told me that all you had to do to be able to sell your home tanned hides or things made with them was to pay the royalty on the pelt, I have not looked into that but I am curious because there is a lot of swamp land around I can have free access to trap if I wanted to or had the time to. That being said, the guys also said that they do not bother trapping beaver in the winter, there is more money in waiting for the beavers to do some damage and have the municipality hire them in the summer to reduce the numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saskfly
My buddy out in B.C. said the same thing....problem beavers are much more lucrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
.22 short solid beween the eyes. A quick humane death and eliminates the chance of two holes and flank soiling the pelt ( a lot more work to wash and dry the pelt), as well as your truck bed and trailer. Head shot works well - just hang by back legs and let the carcass bleed out. Feed bag on head during transport keep any blood soiling confined to just the head. Not as humane a shot to the lungs and chances are your coyote would tear up your trap bed/circle more. Re: comment about coyote not being happy to see you and jumping around. This has not been the case for me. I'd say 80% of the time they just lay there motionless until you dispatch them. Then again, you will get the odd one that's got its hackles up and yapping at you.
Update: Ended up buying Ram Power Snares (WolfMaster) rather than using leg holds which were given.
If all goes as planned, I won't need to decide on how to dispatch for best fur value.
Will likely go for the head shot should things not go as planned with the catch.
Will likely reverse my choice when retired. Will then have the time to craft items from catch as a hobby rather than selling fur to auction.
Now the head fur will be more valued than body fur after I make something creative from it.
Step 1. Learn to catch coyote/wolf with power snare system so I can add this skill to my trapping resume.
Step 2. Learn the tricks to be efficient at catching canine over the next 10 years.
Step 3. Start retirement and learn to sew fur.
Step 4. Rake in the the dozens of dollars selling fur I caught and self processed.
Buddy of mine uses them and loves them. I went with the senneker snare springs because of cost and like them.
Sounds like a good long term plan.
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Sounds about right from the guys I have talked to, but it is still something on my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Tuna
Thats what my grandfather would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Hes been trapping for most of his 80 years
I figure in another 30 years when I retire I can rake in a pretty big haul doing nuisance beaver removal. If trapping continues its death spiral there isnt going to be a hell of a lot of trappers around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Tuna