Prepare for an increase in trespassers

I am not sure what you guys are seeing out there but I have already seen an increase in trespassers on my hunting properties in the Niagara Region. There are fewer things that get by blood boiling quicker than a trespasser.........ok maybe a trespasser & thief.

With the increasing number of people not working due to COVID-19, parks being closed, schools being closed, & conservation hunting lands being closed I have a feeling that the number of trespassers will be on the rise this turkey season. I have already caught this clown on my cell camera several times (see attached) and last night I caught two guys on quads in one of our bush lots . When I stepped from behind a tree I scared the hell out of him and I could see that we was drunk, driving without a helmet and no plates. He did the typical trespasser dance - I did not know I was trespassing, we are just out for a ride, ect..... After I read them the riot act one of them tried to get cocky by asking who I was. I just snapped a pic of them and told them I was calling the landowner and that if I were them I would get the F%&*&K out of here quickly before he shows up and NOT come back.

It is just going to be one of those years.

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Sweet Jesus, could that guy have ever posed for a more appropriate picture ?? Lol.
I think his parents are siblings... :scream:

I hope there wasn't any No Trespassing signs, my guess he wouldn't have been able to read them.

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Originally Posted by 410001661

I am not sure what you guys are seeing out there but I have already seen an increase in trespassers on my hunting properties in the Niagara Region. There are fewer things that get by blood boiling quicker than a trespasser.........ok maybe a trespasser & thief.

With the increasing number of people not working due to COVID-19, parks being closed, schools being closed, & conservation hunting lands being closed I have a feeling that the number of trespassers will be on the rise this turkey season. I have already caught this clown on my cell camera several times (see attached) and last night I caught two guys on quads in one of our bush lots . When I stepped from behind a tree I scared the hell out of him and I could see that we was drunk, driving without a helmet and no plates. He did the typical trespasser dance - I did not know I was trespassing, we are just out for a ride, ect..... After I read them the riot act one of them tried to get cocky by asking who I was. I just snapped a pic of them and told them I was calling the landowner and that if I were them I would get the F%&*&K out of here quickly before he shows up and NOT come back.

It is just going to be one of those years.

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Be sure the property is properly posted and gates are locked. Really,it's all you can do. Confronting drunk people on property you don't own is a job for the Police. Never put yourself in a position where you could get the peepee beat of you and be left for dead without witnesses or help.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Be sure the property is properly posted and gates are locked. Really,it's all you can do. Confronting drunk people on property you don't own is a job for the Police. Never put yourself in a position where you could get the peepee beat of you and be left for dead without witnesses or help.

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The properties are well posted and the gates are locked - three of the farms are working poultry farms and the fourth is cash crops. The landowner is a good friend of mine for over 20yrs and I was told to treat this place like it was my own property. These guys went across 4 farms to get to this one.......and from my impression of these guys on the quads a no trespassing sign was not going to stop them anyway.

I would never put myself in a dangerous position. I can hold my own at the best of times.........plus I was holding a 12GA Beretta at the time of confrontation. It is very rare that I do not have a firearm with me when on my hunting properties. Plinking if fun this time of year

It’s only going to get worst as time goes along

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Originally Posted by 410001661

The properties are well posted and the gates are locked - three of the farms are working poultry farms and the fourth is cash crops. The landowner is a good friend of mine for over 20yrs and I was told to treat this place like it was my own property. These guys went across 4 farms to get to this one.......and from my impression of these guys on the quads a no trespassing sign was not going to stop them anyway.

I would never put myself in a dangerous position. I can hold my own at the best of times.........plus I was holding a 12GA Beretta at the time of confrontation. It is very rare that I do not have a firearm with me when on my hunting properties. Plinking if fun this time of year

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I sure get where you're coming from. Trespassers can make you crazy. Concealed cameras help a lot if you can find where those people are coming from to get a license plate or an address,then,turn it over to the CO's or OPP.

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Originally Posted by smokin'stoegie

Sweet Jesus, could that guy have ever posed for a more appropriate picture ?? Lol.
I think his parents are siblings... :scream:

I hope there wasn't any No Trespassing signs, my guess he wouldn't have been able to read them.

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ROFL! Hahahahh

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Originally Posted by 410001661

.plus I was holding a 12GA Beretta at the time of confrontation. It is very rare that I do not have a firearm with me when on my hunting properties. Plinking if fun this time of year

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You're lucky the Police weren't called on you for brandishing the gun? All they would need to tell the LEO is that you aimed it at them. You're busted and in big do do. Gun(s) gone, gun license gone, and probably an appt. with the courts. Not that I believe you had the gun, but it sure sounds bravado on here.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

You're lucky the Police weren't called on you for brandishing the gun? All they would need to tell the LEO is that you aimed it at them. You're busted and in big do do. Gun(s) gone, gun license gone, and probably an appt. with the courts. Not that I believe you had the gun, but it sure sounds bravado on here.

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In this situation the key is to call the police before the trespassers do. Get your version of the events in first.

I've encountered trespassers while carrying a firearm. It was not brandished or pointed at them. It does however get their attention.

You know an idiot with that attitude like that would steal a trail cam, blind, stand or whatever else they come upon. Too bad, one of the few places we can go to get a little peace and quiet and you come across an @$$#0le. I have a few suggestions but they may not be appropriate!

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

You're lucky the Police weren't called on you for brandishing the gun? All they would need to tell the LEO is that you aimed it at them. You're busted and in big do do. Gun(s) gone, gun license gone, and probably an appt. with the courts. Not that I believe you had the gun, but it sure sounds bravado on here.

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Brandishng a gun - LOL.......I was carrying a gun. My buddy was 100ys away down the path and could see everything (he had a gun as well). The last thing the drunk guy wants to do is call the cops........trespassing, drinking and driving, driving a quad without a helmet, driving a quad without a plate??

To be honest, with everything closing, you may want to rent out your place (quietly) I for one would pay to have a quiet getaway for a weekend.


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I’ll set up a booth at my lane

I wonder why the MNR chose this route rather than just Postponing hunting and fishing for this spring. In the long run it may have lead to less hassles for them and ethical hunters. The amount of bickering between anglers that are staying at home and those who still chose to drive across the province for fishing is unbelievable on some boards. April 25th should be interesting!

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Originally Posted by DanO

I wonder why the MNR chose this route rather than just Postponing hunting and fishing for this spring. In the long run it may have lead to less hassles for them and ethical hunters. The amount of bickering between anglers that are staying at home and those who still chose to drive across the province for fishing is unbelievable on some boards. April 25th should be interesting!

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The closures thus far have had nothing to do with the MNRF. It’s all been Conservation Autorities, municipalities, etc. closing public hunting areas and boat launches.

No point in cancelling hunting seasons (eg. turkeys) that in the vast majority take place solo and on private property.

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Originally Posted by DanO

I wonder why the MNR chose this route rather than just Postponing hunting and fishing for this spring. In the long run it may have lead to less hassles for them and ethical hunters. The amount of bickering between anglers that are staying at home and those who still chose to drive across the province for fishing is unbelievable on some boards. April 25th should be interesting!

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Why do we need to close seasons? What is wrong with people getting out of town to fish or hunt? Buy gas where you live and drive straight to your fishing spot, maintain a gap and drive straight home.

The GRCA closing their conservation areas is a huge mistake. We're going to have guys lined up side by side at other access points on the opener.

These closures are ignorant and the government has basically told everyone that they're irresponsible children who can't play safe. When you don't get your message regarding masks, physical distancing, etc. correct from the get-go, some people are going to be irresponsible. Personally, I'm shocked that the premier has decided to lock down the province until May 15th.

Angelo.

These closures will continue until people smarten up. When I go out to get something essential and see an influx of cottagers in our area buying up all the goods in the stores and in the same trip seeing groups of grey hairs standing less than an arms length away chatting. Guys piled onto the local dock to fish. It’s the selfish and stupid ruining it for the rest of us. I’m in a low risk group for this thing but I’m still doing my part by staying home to protect the vulnerable where I can.

As I individuals, we can be great. As a group, people suck.

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Originally Posted by boozyleroux

These closures will continue until people smarten up. When I go out to get something essential and see an influx of cottagers in our area buying up all the goods in the stores and in the same trip seeing groups of grey hairs standing less than an arms length away chatting. Guys piled onto the local dock to fish. It’s the selfish and stupid ruining it for the rest of us. I’m in a low risk group for this thing but I’m still doing my part by staying home to protect the vulnerable where I can.

As I individuals, we can be great. As a group, people suck.

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Well said

I had said this in another thread but in essence a lot of hunting and fishing has been closed already.
Any property including conservation authority's, county forests, boat launches, municipal piers are closed or anywhere else under control of cities/towns which in fact does mean No hunting or fishing for a number of people.
Not much they can do on Private Property. Easy to practice the distancing thing when you're by yourself.

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Originally Posted by Sprite

The closures thus far have had nothing to do with the MNRF. It’s all been Conservation Autorities, municipalities, etc. closing public hunting areas and boat launches.

No point in cancelling hunting seasons (eg. turkeys) that in the vast majority take place solo and on private property.

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The closures have been made by the province, not any of the above mentioned. Its out of everyones hands but the province, and the feds.

S.

Busy day on the farms today. Updated 6 of the no trespassing signs to larger and more visible signs on a couple of the access points and installed 12 smaller ones throughout the 3 farms. There is absolutely no excuse moving forward.



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Good job. No question now.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Good job. No question now.

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There is still a grey area, I thought it just mean't........... no trespassing on the left side of the trees, not on the right side, I thought this side was crown land.......
Best of luck to all heading out

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Busy day on the farms today. Updated 6 of the no trespassing signs to larger and more visible signs on a couple of the access points and installed 12 smaller ones throughout the 3 farms. There is absolutely no excuse moving forward.



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Your gun! Show them a picture of your gun!

What if the trespassers are french? LOL!! If they're anything like some of the clowns around here you just set up some targets for them. Sad what you have to do to get some peace.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Your gun! Show them a picture of your gun!

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I bet this would get their attention - and it is non-restricted as well - LOL

Or maybe the shortie

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Busy day on the farms today. Updated 6 of the no trespassing signs to larger and more visible signs on a couple of the access points and installed 12 smaller ones throughout the 3 farms. There is absolutely no excuse moving forward.



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I hope you don’t have to cross that bridge at 4:30 in the morning. Could be a wet sit. lol. Good job on signs. Good Luck

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

I hope you don’t have to cross that bridge at 4:30 in the morning. Could be a wet sit. lol. Good job on signs. Good Luck

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LOL......fortunately there are two ways to access the stands/blinds on that side of the farm and the short route means you need to cross the "Bridge of Wet Boots". When we built it 6-8yrs ago it was strong enough to drive a quad across it, then ever time it started to sag and became waterlogged and to be honest it's days are numbered. Like running from a bear.......when crossing the bridge I do not need to be the lightest........just not the heaviest of our group.

Unfortunately posting signs will only keep honest people honest, but it does cover your butt in case of a dispute as you did due diligence by posting signs.

Don’t worry if the trespassers disappear. I’m sure they didn’t let anyone know where they were going. “Honey be back later, going to trespass on private property down the road”


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Where did you get them signs. I like

My buddy is a poultry farmer and he gets them from CFO (Chicken Farmers of Ontario).

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Originally Posted by js4fn

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I am serious. I would be willing. Turkey opens this weekend :)


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Originally Posted by kwaugh

I am serious. I would be willing. Turkey opens this weekend :)


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Your about 300k away

I am expecting trouble tomorrow. I just got permission on the farm south of my own property. The owner does not live on the land and the house is abandoned. I have asked before but the owners wife does not like hunting. I have respected their wishes, I have other spots, but I have occasionally seen and heard other guys hunting there. I called him again this spring and after a friendly chat he changed his mind and said I could go. (A lesson I learned early in my sales career, never assume the first NO always means no.) I told him I know other guys have hunted there over the years but he said he has given no one permission. I have him in my contacts on my phone so could call him if I run into anyone but I think I will try and settle it diplomatically and not bother him. I am afraid if he sees the whole thing as a hassle I could lose my new gained access.

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Originally Posted by singlemalt

I will try and settle it diplomatically and not bother him. I am afraid if he sees the whole thing as a hassle I could lose my new gained access.

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That happens far more often than guys realize. I know of a few fabulous local deer spots that hunters have ruined their permission to hunt on through their squabbles and involved the owners.

I know one land owner maybe 10-12 clicks down the road last I heard he has 229 permission slips out

Confronted 2 trespassers at 630 am opening morning that walked into my set up. I waited until they were nice and close before i stood up and gave them a piece of my mind. Scared the crap out of them and sent them packing. Still managed a jake, 8 mins after I confronted them LOL

S.

Crazy. Some people just have no idea how close they can come to a disaster. Congrates on the bird.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

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Great one to send to your insurance company,if your seeking a quick cancellation. LOL