Have you noticed anything different in this years regs?

So flipping through this years regs book and I noticed a few things different this year. First looks like all the public hunting areas have been scrubbed from the maps. Wonder if its related to the Ihunt app for sale. Good thing I still have old copies of the regs. Another thing I noticed was a recommendation for marking portable blinds with hunter orange wonder if this is in preparation to make it mandatory. The last thing that struck me as odd was a recommendation to report feral pigs and wild board instead of hunting them.
What you guys think?
Any other odd things of note.

I noticed all that,also. Did you notice the change to the small game section where it's no longer necessary for small game hunters to carry a big game license when varmint/predator hunting with centerfire rifles and shot greater than #2 during big game seasons? That's a big plus for all us varmint hunters hunting in the fall. It's still required that we use the proper firearm as prescribed in the regs for the open season,though. (shotguns only). That recommendation for ground blind marking has always been there. I really doubt there'll be any further blaze orange regs coming out of it. That would be pretty tough to float that one.

Wasn’t the marking a blind mainly for turkey ?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I Did you notice the change to the small game section where it's no longer necessary for small game hunters to carry a big game license when varmint/predator hunting with centerfire rifles and shot greater than #2 during big game seasons? That's a big plus for all us varmint hunters hunting in the fall. It's still required that we use the proper firearm as prescribed in the regs for the open season,though. (shotguns only). .

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Didn't pick up on that one.

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Originally Posted by js4fn

Wasn’t the marking a blind mainly for turkey ?

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Think it was a general recommendation for all ground blind use

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Didn't pick up on that one.



Think it was a general recommendation for all ground blind use

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Check the section in red on page 85 of The Summary under Wolf&Coyote.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

So flipping through this years regs book and I noticed a few things different this year. First looks like all the public hunting areas have been scrubbed from the maps. Wonder if its related to the Ihunt app for sale. Good thing I still have old copies of the regs. Another thing I noticed was a recommendation for marking portable blinds with hunter orange wonder if this is in preparation to make it mandatory. The last thing that struck me as odd was a recommendation to report feral pigs and wild board instead of hunting them.
What you guys think?
Any other odd things of note.

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Hi finsfurfeathers,
The MNRF gave this additional comment on one of OOD's social platforms: At this time, hunting wild pigs in Ontario is not recommended. Research and management from other jurisdictions show that hunting is ineffective at eliminating invasive wild pigs and can accelerate the spread of their populations. Wild pigs that are exposed to hunting disperse into new areas and learn quickly to avoid humans, which can make future efforts to eliminate invasive wild pigs in the province harder. The ministry continues to urge the public to report wild pig sightings. Reported sightings play a critical role in understanding the locations and number of wild pigs in the province and will inform Ontario’s research and management. Sightings can be emailed to [email protected] or submitted to the iNaturalist Ontario Wild Pig Reporting webpage.

For OOD's coverage on Wild Pigs in Ontario, please refer to this story:
https://oodmag.com/news/wild-pigs-threaten-ontario/

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

Hi finsfurfeathers,
The MNRF gave this additional comment on one of OOD's social platforms: At this time, hunting wild pigs in Ontario is not recommended. Research and management from other jurisdictions show that hunting is ineffective at eliminating invasive wild pigs and can accelerate the spread of their populations. Wild pigs that are exposed to hunting disperse into new areas and learn quickly to avoid humans, which can make future efforts to eliminate invasive wild pigs in the province harder. The ministry continues to urge the public to report wild pig sightings. Reported sightings play a critical role in understanding the locations and number of wild pigs in the province and will inform Ontario’s research and management. Sightings can be emailed to [email protected] or submitted to the iNaturalist Ontario Wild Pig Reporting webpage.

For OOD's coverage on Wild Pigs in Ontario, please refer to this story:
https://oodmag.com/news/wild-pigs-threaten-ontario/

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Are they telling us not to shoot them if we see them?

This reporting of hog sightings makes complete sense to me, IMO doesn't mean you can't shoot them, I definitely know that I do not shoot every animal I see while I am hunting that species and I also do not shoot every species I legally can while I am hunting another species, so the reporting will give them more information on the population weather it runs away or is hanging.

Sounds like they will say

It will spread at a low risk . Lol

I dont think we have a population big enough for them to train their colonies about hunters. Maybe when they are established they may learn a bit more about the hunters. Also if the came from the south from larger herds they would already have that instinct.

If you have the opportunity to take them out buy all means take them out lol. We cant just report them to fix the problem. What is the mnr going to do about a report? Sounds like an open invitation saying they are safe here in Canada .

I don't think they will try and trap them so just reporting seems stupid . Yes they learn quickly they also spread and reproduce quickly. What's going to happen with the reports? They end up on a map and that's it we let them establish more so it will never be controlled.

Unless the mnr plans of spending a week at each report of pigs a report system is silly and does nothing to solve the problems.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Are they telling us not to shoot them if we see them?

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Sounds like they want to let their population grow until they “do” present a problem. Makes no real sense to me...

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Sounds like they want to let their population grow until they “do” present a problem. Makes no real sense to me...

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Maybe they plan on selling tags future investments [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Sounds like they want to let their population grow until they “do” present a problem. Makes no real sense to me...

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Maybe they plan on selling tags future investments [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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I doubt the government has any idea just what a nasty disposition these things have. I wouldn't want to be the bureaucrat who has to answer for agricultural damage and injuries to hikers,campers or horse riders that tangle with them. They're absolutely vicious. I have a family member with the scars to prove it.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Sounds like they will say

It will spread at a low risk . Lol

I dont think we have a population big enough for them to train their colonies about hunters. Maybe when they are established they may learn a bit more about the hunters. Also if the came from the south from larger herds they would already have that instinct.

If you have the opportunity to take them out buy all means take them out lol. We cant just report them to fix the problem. What is the mnr going to do about a report? Sounds like an open invitation saying they are safe here in Canada .

I don't think they will try and trap them so just reporting seems stupid . Yes they learn quickly they also spread and reproduce quickly. What's going to happen with the reports? They end up on a map and that's it we let them establish more so it will never be controlled.

Unless the mnr plans of spending a week at each report of pigs a report system is silly and does nothing to solve the problems.

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MNRF will study the reports for the next 20 years, and after consulting with tree huggers biologist they will make recommendations that are outdated and irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I doubt the government has any idea just what a nasty disposition these things have. I wouldn't want to be the bureaucrat who has to answer for agricultural damage and injuries to hikers,campers or horse riders that tangle with them. They're absolutely vicious. I have a family member with the scars to prove it.

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In my neck of the woods every 30 years or so someone is killed by wild boars.They are one of the most ferocious big game.When they attack,they do not back down for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

MNRF will study the reports for the next 20 years, and after consulting with tree huggers biologist they will make recommendations that are outdated and irrelevant.

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Exactly. Then it will be to late to keep them in check

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

Hi finsfurfeathers,
The MNRF gave this additional comment on one of OOD's social platforms: At this time, hunting wild pigs in Ontario is not recommended. Research and management from other jurisdictions show that hunting is ineffective at eliminating invasive wild pigs and can accelerate the spread of their populations. Wild pigs that are exposed to hunting disperse into new areas and learn quickly to avoid humans, which can make future efforts to eliminate invasive wild pigs in the province harder. The ministry continues to urge the public to report wild pig sightings. Reported sightings play a critical role in understanding the locations and number of wild pigs in the province and will inform Ontario’s research and management. Sightings can be emailed to [email protected] or submitted to the iNaturalist Ontario Wild Pig Reporting webpage.

For OOD's coverage on Wild Pigs in Ontario, please refer to this story:
https://oodmag.com/news/wild-pigs-threaten-ontario/

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Thanx for the explanation Meghan-is there any plan from MNRF then how they want to deal with this problem?

I guess I will add feral pigs/wild boars to my standing orders at the hunt camp. Much like coyotes, if seen terminate with extreme prejudice. My bigger worry is people dropping off cats thinking that all farmers need more cats ?

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Maybe they plan on selling tags future investments [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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we can shoot as many as we see, and the population would still end up being more then we can count.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Check the section in red on page 85 of The Summary under Wolf&Coyote.

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Page 91 of the 2020 regulations seem to limit that to south of the French and Mattawa Rivers..

***Firearms***
If you are hunting small game in an area
where there is an open season for deer,
moose, elk, or black bear, you may not
possess or use a centre-fire rifle or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot (non-toxic equivalents include steel shot larger than triple BBB, or bismuth larger than double BB), unless you possess a valid licence to hunt big game (deer, moose, elk or black bear) during the relevant open season. This restriction does not apply south of the French and Mattawa rivers during an open season for deer that is restricted to the use of bows, or to hunters with a valid small game licence who are hunting wolf or coyote during an open season for deer, moose, elk or black bear."

The way is it written, it poorly is..

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Page 91 of the 2020 regulations seem to limit that to south of the French and Mattawa Rivers..

***Firearms***
If you are hunting small game in an area
where there is an open season for deer,
moose, elk, or black bear, you may not
possess or use a centre-fire rifle or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot (non-toxic equivalents include steel shot larger than triple BBB, or bismuth larger than double BB), unless you possess a valid licence to hunt big game (deer, moose, elk or black bear) during the relevant open season. This restriction does not apply south of the French and Mattawa rivers during an open season for deer that is restricted to the use of bows, or to hunters with a valid small game licence who are hunting wolf or coyote during an open season for deer, moose, elk or black bear."

The way is it written, it poorly is..

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Evidently, Pg 91 was printed in error after the reg on Pg.85 was changed. It should have been redacted.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Evidently, Pg 91 was printed in error after the reg on Pg.85 was changed. It should have been redacted.

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It's in my digital copy I downloaded three minutes after reading this thread.

An update is needed.

Also what happened to our Cormorant season?

The deer population is at an all time low here, and its impossible to get a moose tag.

If a wild pig walks in front of me while im hunting, im eating chops for dinner the next night. Until its illegal, that is.

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

The deer population is at an all time low here, and its impossible to get a moose tag.

If a wild pig walks in front of me while im hunting, im eating chops for dinner the next night. Until its illegal, that is.

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X2. These threads need a "like" button. I'm not under any delusion,though, that when they show up and enough get shot,we'll need a tag from the government in short order. They'll want their "piece". :rolleye:

I think the deer population is up considerably here. It was a decent winter here for them.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Sounds like they want to let their population grow until they “do” present a problem. Makes no real sense to me...

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By reporting, the MNR then proceeds to catch the males only, quick vasectomy making the boar sterile and the herd slowly dwindle/die off
Shooting the one, sends the herd elsewhere to populate and be weary of humans

Uh huh yeah they are so easy to catch

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I noticed all that,also. Did you notice the change to the small game section where it's no longer necessary for small game hunters to carry a big game license when varmint/predator hunting with center-fire rifles and shot greater than #2 during big game seasons? That's a big plus for all us varmint hunters hunting in the fall. It's still required that we use the proper firearm as prescribed in the regs for the open season,though. (shotguns only). That recommendation for ground blind marking has always been there. I really doubt there'll be any further blaze orange regs coming out of it. That would be pretty tough to float that one.

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The problem is the firearm restriction pursuant to center-fire is only lifted for small game hunters who are hunting wolf or coyote. However if I am out hunting grouse, and I carry slugs in the event I might encounter an aggressive bear, or if I'm out rabbit hunting with my center-fire rifle in an open season of big game I will still need the appropriate big game licence. I don't do rim-fire, I load-down center-fire cast bullets to shoot rabbits. So they really haven't move that much on center-fire firearms in the open season of big game, Although you do now have a dodge if you are hunting other small game. You can always lie to the CO's an tell them you are either hunting coyote or wolf, bound to be a coyote running around somewhere so you won't be caught out hunting in an area where no such varmints exist. However if they notice you have bird shot with you, don't suggest you are carrying it in case you see a grouse it might give them a wrong impression. Suggest you might have put in your pocket by mistake. Also don't refer to the rifle cartridges as a rabbit loads.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. you grow old because you stop hunting,
-Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

The problem is the firearm restriction pursuant to center-fire is only lifted for small game hunters who are hunting wolf or coyote. However if I am out hunting grouse, and I carry slugs in the event I might encounter an aggressive bear, or if I'm out rabbit hunting with my center-fire rifle in an open season of big game I will still need the appropriate big game licence. I don't do rim-fire, I load-down center-fire cast bullets to shoot rabbits. So they really haven't move that much on center-fire firearms in the open season of big game, Although you do now have a dodge if you are hunting other small game. You can always lie to the CO's an tell them you are either hunting coyote or wolf, bound to be a coyote running around somewhere so you won't be caught out hunting in an area where no such varmints exist. However if they notice you have bird shot with you, don't suggest you are carrying it in case you see a grouse it might give them a wrong impression. Suggest you might have put in your pocket by mistake. Also don't refer to the rifle cartridges as a rabbit loads.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. you grow old because you stop hunting,
-Gun Nut

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Nothing says you cannot hunt coyotes with #7.5 lead shot.

Lotza deer all winter at my place. Numbers are great in my area. Very few yote and wolf tracks all winter, which is not so normal but good I guess. Tons of scraped trees from last fall just seeing many now

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Originally Posted by Fox

Nothing says you cannot hunt coyotes with #7.5 lead shot.

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Yep,or 00 buck shot for that matter. That was a dumb regulation. I'm glad it's gone.