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This is the sixth or seventh CF officer we've lost in the last three weeks through equipment failure. It's a terrible tragedy. Condolences to all their families.
I watched the video of the ejection sequence and it showed they were ejected in a downward angle toward the ground. That didn't give them much chance to have the chutes open fully. I'm amazed one survived at all.
If Canada wants to continue with AF aeronautic displays its about time to rid themselves of the single engine Tudors and go to twin engines for safety. This is a small town and we lost one of our own to a chopper crash a few years back. Because of that, every one of these events, no matter where the servicemen come from really hits home.
I hear what you're saying, but I doubt the feds will ever cough up the $$$ to upgrade to a better, more modern plane? They'll shut it down rather than spend the money. According to the news, the current Tudors were built in the 60's? That's pushing 60 yrs. of service FFS! They should be in the antique, vintage airshow?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
How do you know it was equipment failure for either incident? It’ll take well over a year if not later to determine the real cause.
Well I'm sure either of the pilots didn't point the aircraft into a rock cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jems
Trudough gives away a Billion dollars everyday around lunchtime when he comes up from the basement. If the will is there to have this team so is the money. I fear this will be the end of the snowbirds. Tragic to lose anybody in the military. RIP.
He also will never give a speech from his heart always from a piece of paper. He should learn to speak from the heart and not a message that someone else probably wrote .Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
A horrible tradigedy
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Only one pilot on board. The other was a passenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
Have you ever posted something, other than to correct someone else’s post!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
Ya, I know that, been around AF enough, My intent was the Helo that went down in on the exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
It won't take a year to figure out what initially went wrong because there's one survivor to relate details. If it was loss of power or a loss of control then 'why' might take a bit of digging but they'll know exactly what to look for.
Official reports take that long or longer in aviation. You’re right, the cause could be determined sooner but that remains to be seen. Equipment failure, human error, bird injestion, who knows. My point is it’s not always the craft.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
.... 2007 article .... new planes before 2020
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/repla...s-ago-1.635274
""We do acknowledge that to fly it into the future beyond its current life expectancy, which I believe is 2010, that we would have to do some minor modifications to the aircraft.""
2012 article Conservatives allocate $775 Million
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-snowbird-jets
"The Snowbirds fleet of CT-114 Tutors will be retired by December 2020, according to the Royal Canadian Air Force."
In 2012, then Prime Minister Stephen Harper allocated $755 million in order to replace the Snowbird jets. This move was cancelled in 2018 by the Trudeau government who instructed that the planes should keep flying until 2030.
https://thepostmillennial.com/trudea...planes-in-2018
IF it hadn't been cancelled they MIGHT (not likely) but MIGHT have replaced the current planes so other than that no polite comment about the equipment.... the pilots deserve the best or atleast safe, not used antiques and dangerously obsolete... but I guess they ask too much too according to the Liberals and my condolences to the team and families.
Maybe,it's time to retire the Tudors and acquire RAF Hawk T1's or use our F-18's that we seem to have a few floating around that are,for now,grounded.
Looks like the initial blame is pointing to a bird strike. Not much they could have done when the a/c was still climbing out and just a few knots above stall speed on takeoff. Twin engine probably would have saved them.
That's an amazing piece of evidence gathering to grab a photo of a bird strike just before it caused a flame out. It wouldn't matter what aircraft suffered a bird strike,it's going down. Remember US Airways Capt. C. "Sully" Sullenberger and the miracle on the Hudson?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
It's not like you can coast to the curb, then get out and look for the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
A tiny lighting bolt jumping between clouds and travels wing tip to wing tip on a CF-5. Fuel pumps turn off, now your sitting in a big lawn dart....pilot has to make a very big decision.