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December 15th, 2020, 12:24 PM
#11
Originally Posted by
MikePal
It's not so much a lie as how they are manipulating the data to instil fear...like the positivty number. When they were testing everyone the number was at 1.4%....well that wasn't scary. So they switched to only test people with symptoms. The postivity rate jumped to 5% and they tacked that onto the numbers to show there was a 2nd wave. They been fudging the numbers like that since the beginning.
Mike wonder if Heart and stroke Deaths are down . I see it now [emoji23] heart attacks and strokes are down because we stayed inside more lol.
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December 15th, 2020 12:24 PM
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December 15th, 2020, 12:27 PM
#12
Reports ( data) on excess deaths are filtering out Fishfood.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/exces...ovid-1.5619723
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December 15th, 2020, 01:28 PM
#13
Originally Posted by
Ata83
AND they are testing twice as much as summer now ! 65K tests yesterday I think I read somewhere
I'm starting to question those huge numbers...mid summer here and the folks were standing in lines for 4 hrs and only registering 10,000 tests a day. I was just outside and no-one, who is showing signs of a flu, is going to stand out in that for very long..
I think they are including all the kits in every health care facilities being done every day or second day. Not only tests in the community anymore.
My daughter works at the Brewer Park test centre in Ottawa and it's dead, hardly anyone has gone there in some time unless they need a test to get access to a Nursing home etc.
Last edited by MikePal; December 15th, 2020 at 01:37 PM.
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December 15th, 2020, 06:06 PM
#14
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December 15th, 2020, 07:09 PM
#15
I don’t know Impact.
Embarrassing sure.
But wouldn’t you want the people who should know stuff. Not to need papers. And if anything bullit s ( what they tell me) prepared by staffers?
I guess would you prefer Harper at a presser talking about the state of the economy without needing to refer to a stack of papers. Or JT needing an ear bud and a copy of economics for Dummy’s.
I honestly don’t know what to “make of the numbers”. Human nature is human nature. I don’t doubt numbers are being spun.
I acknowledge for example the issue around co-morbidities. I’m ok with the way we count Covid deaths. If I have a perfectly survivable condition ( diabetes)....Buy Covid does me in......
not ok with the fact, when we exclude LTC deaths, our numbers are “tiny”.
Not ok with the way non Covid deaths are being swept under the rug.
I mean, if some guy is depressed having lost his job. Abducts his son, crashes into an OPP cruiser. Gets killed along with the 1 year old boy.
Shouldnt those be “Covid deaths?”
Excess deaths as they are being called are telling.
Last edited by JBen; December 15th, 2020 at 07:12 PM.
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December 15th, 2020, 07:18 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
JBen
I don’t know Impact.
Embassing sure.
But wouldn’t you want the people who should know stuff. Not to need papers. And if anything bullit s ( what they tell me) prepared by staffers?
I guess would you prefer Harper at a presser talking about the state of the economy without needing to refer to a stack of papers. Or JT needing an ear bud and a copy of economics for Dummy’s.
I honestly don’t know what to “make of the numbers”. Human nature is human nature. I don’t doubt numbers are being spun.
I acknowledge for example the issue around co-morbidities. I’m ok with the way we count Covid deaths. Not ok with the way non Covid deaths are being swept under the rug.
I mean, if some guy is depressed having lost his job. Abducts his son, crashes into an OPP cruiser. Gets killed along with the 1 year old boy.
Shouldnt those be Covid deaths?
The buck stops with them. They are the top honchos responsible for this mess.
Yaffe chuckles and then says, “I just say whatever they write down for me.”
Are you kidding me? Who is really in charge. Obviously the "spin doctors".
Indoctrination is systematically used by intelligence agencies, militaries, education systems, religious institutions, and cults across the world (because it works).
We can thank societies’ leaders for this great invention!
COMPONENTS:
1. Recruit – cause individual to donate major amounts of time and effort to the controlling environment, often through deception
2. Isolate – restrict access to external/competing influences/ideas
3. Control Access – create dependency by controlling access to basic needs
4. Brainwash ((a) behaviour control (through rewards/punishments), (b) thought control (cause the individual to intensely doubt their own thoughts/actions, destroy their ability to make independent decisions, and uncritically accept an alternative value), (c) emotion control (create internal crisis in the individual through affection, group pressure, guilt-induction, and guilt-relief), and (d) information control (discourage, monitor, filter, or cut external communication, and replace with propaganda)
5. Institutionalize – cause individual to make a permanent commitment to remain in, depend on, and practice the changed value system.
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December 15th, 2020, 07:24 PM
#17
Oh I get that. Her head should probably roll. Just thinking about Harper giving an update on the economy. He’d have 90% of it in his head without needing a tomb of papers or ear buds. And just some bullets.
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December 15th, 2020, 07:31 PM
#18
[QUOTE=JBen
I honestly don’t know what to “make of the numbers”. Human nature is human nature. I don’t doubt numbers are being spun.
I acknowledge for example the issue around co-morbidities. I’m ok with the way we count Covid deaths. If I have a perfectly survivable condition ( diabetes)....Buy Covid does me in......
[/QUOTE]
Agree! Nowadays people with respiratory illnesses or heart disease are living lengthy and active lives because of medications, contract Covid and die. Thats a Covid death, period!
And I don't care if they fudge the numbers of daily infections. Do what it takes to get the brain dead behaving more responsibly.
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December 15th, 2020, 07:32 PM
#19
Originally Posted by
JBen
Oh I get that. Her head should probably roll. Just thinking about Harper giving an update on the economy. He’d have 90% of it in his head without needing a tomb of papers or ear buds. And just some bullets.
Harper is off the map now! Have a listen to MP Pierre Poilievre the finance critic. He is exactly what you describe.
Unfortunate that he declined to run as head of the PC but given the global mess we are in at the moment he probably thought it best to avoid.
If you are on FB check him out. A very well balanced politician who is not afraid to ask tough questions of the Liberals. Unfortunately, he never gets a straight answer.
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December 15th, 2020, 07:54 PM
#20
Originally Posted by
sawbill
Agree! Nowadays people with respiratory illnesses or heart disease are living lengthy and active lives because of medications, contract Covid and die. Thats a Covid death, period!
And I don't care if they fudge the numbers of daily infections. Do what it takes to get the brain dead behaving more responsibly.
Sorry, if you are in an LTC where the bulk of the people are dying you are not living as you describe.
Covid by any other name would be called Influenza.
My daughter and niece work in them. I have visited and watched my mother-in-law die in one of them. Alzheimer. Not covid or influenza.
A form of respiratory illness is usually what takes them away. No one lives forever.
Cold - hard - facts.
I recently had a close call of my own. I know I am not immortal and will eventually be just a statistic.
All I would ask is that it is not used in a political agenda.
Odd that we now ignore cancer, heart disease and all other morbidities, isn't it?
My brother in law died of prostate cancer 2 weeks ago. Never made the news....