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    I opened a new box of Challengers today and went Grouse hunting.
    I shot and missed a few easy shots and wounded one. I also shot off the head completely on a couple I managed to get.
    Blast seem louder then normal.
    Not wanting to wound anymore I went back to the camp.
    I put up a target at 5 yd then at 10 yd this is what it looks like.
    I never patterned my grouse gun before but I’m sure it wasn’t a single hole.
    I think it should spread out more then that.
    It seem to shoot slightly higher also.
    I shot these for a very long time and always did good with them.
    Anyways I will go with the .410 tomorrow, I don’t want to wound any more birds.
    Any experience on this?
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    Wow. What choke is that pattern from?

    I've never patterned closer than 20 yds.
    Last edited by dean.f; October 16th, 2021 at 06:27 PM.

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    5 and 10 yards are going to keep things real tight . Cylinder should give you a 16" spread and a full will lend a mere 6 inches at 10 yards given the shot and wad separate.

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    Just wondering, why are you pattering so close. I think at 5 yards regardless of choke will be tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom gobble View Post
    Just wondering, why are you pattering so close. I think at 5 yards regardless of choke will be tight.
    Primarily why a lot of guys miss Turkeys in close. That is a common spread for almost all shotguns under 10 yards, Baseball size holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean.f View Post
    Wow. What choke is that pattern from?

    I've never patterned closer than 20 yds.
    It’s the same shotgun and choke I’ve been using for the last 20 years. I checked and choke was still there and tight. Nothing changed except maybe the shells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oaknut View Post
    5 and 10 yards are going to keep things real tight . Cylinder should give you a 16" spread and a full will lend a mere 6 inches at 10 yards given the shot and wad separate.

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    Yes that’s what I would of expected at 10 yard but it seem tighter than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom gobble View Post
    Just wondering, why are you pattering so close. I think at 5 yards regardless of choke will be tight.
    I wasn’t sure how far to pattern but most shots I take on grouse around here is in that 5 to 15 yard range. The grouse I missed yesterday where in the 5 to 10 yard range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    Primarily why a lot of guys miss Turkeys in close. That is a common spread for almost all shotguns under 10 yards, Baseball size holes.
    Yes. I missed a few Turkeys up close because of that.

    Like I mentioned earlier I used this shotgun for grouse for many years and nothing changed except possibly the shells.
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    Thanks everyone.

    I’m thinking maybe the last bunch of box I bought were different then what I used before.
    I burned the cardboard box but have a few more boxes at home and will check.

    Missing and wounding one once in a while is one thing but what was happening yesterday wasn’t normal for me.
    So in the meantime I will use my .410.
    Again thanks.
    Last edited by Deer Hunter; October 17th, 2021 at 05:06 AM.
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