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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    All of the cases I heard about were from other violations fishing to close too many people together and speeding on the way home. Usually something lead up to being questioned.

    Follow the rules in place and most were good.


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    Watch the video in this news article ... were people closer than 6 ft? Were they speeding home?
    The fishermen who reside outside of Port Hope were either ticketed or asked to leave ...

    https://todaysnorthumberland.ca/2021...rotection-act/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Police officers are hired to enforce laws enacted by duly-elected democratic governments. As a result they do not get to interpret those laws or the Charter to suit their own political or philosophical beliefs. Additionally, the Ontario Police Services Act restricts the politician activity then can engage in.

    Retired officers can do as they want. If this coalition does include serving police officers who have identified themselves publicly the clock is ticking on their careers.
    Buddy, you are so wrong, it's not funny. LET ME ASK YOU why did ALL municipal police divisions refuse to enforce the original version of the order, which stated they can stop anyone at anytime and demand identification and a reason for being outside of their home??

    The active police, ALL of them, refused! WHY? Because they swear to uphold the constitution, and recognize that these laws are in violation of their oaths, and they were not going to do Doug Ford's dirty work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Sorry, what law was broken?? You seem to think a law was broken by fishing in the Ganny. That is one BIG assumption.
    The order allows for "exercise", it also does not prohibit being outside, it also does not prohibit travel.

    Are you ASSUMING that fishing is not considered essential? OK then, if it is not considered essential, then WHY are the police in Port Hope allowing residents of Port Hope to fish? It either is essential or isn't to all.

    This double standard does not have any place in the law ... it is wrong, and I hope the Town gets nailed for it.
    There are two laws you should read then you might have a clearer understanding of how far reaching police and public health powers are under a declared state of emergency.

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90e09

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    There are two laws you should read then you might have a clearer understanding of how far reaching police and public health powers are under a declared state of emergency.

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90e09

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h07
    You still haven't answered my key question ... is fishing essential or non-essential?

    I am fairly convinced (because I asked two or three times already), that I won't get an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    You still haven't answered my key question ... is fishing essential or non-essential?

    I am fairly convinced (because I asked two or three times already), that I won't get an answer.
    What is occurring in Port Hope isn't about fishing it's about people from outside the area visiting the region in contravention of public health and/or emergency management legislation during a state of emergency. It doesn't matter whether they are fishing or not.

    Here's a link to a news article that explains it plus read the legislation.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/7809518/p...ergency-order/
    Last edited by Badenoch; May 19th, 2021 at 03:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    What is occurring in Port Hope isn't about fishing it's about people from outside the area visiting the region in contravention of public health and/or emergency management legislation during a state of emergency. It doesn't matter whether they are fishing or not.

    Here's a link to a news article that explains it plus read the legislation.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/7809518/p...ergency-order/
    Is fishing essential or non-essential? Say one or the other. Nothing else. Pick one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Which part of "stay at home" order do people not understand? The law that was broken by the out-of-town anglers was the Emergency Management and Civil Protections Act.

    https://www.ontario.ca/page/emergency-information
    The part on Pearson's website telling me when flights are leaving daily to the tropics and elsewhere.

    No problem leaving my zone to jump on a jet to the tropics.

    I've yet to see or hear of any passengers sent home or fined for defying "stay at home" order, and also for leaving their zone.

    After all Justin said it would be racist to shutdown international air travel. So we as Canadians, Ontarians are free to travel, thanks to the Trudeau.

    He's done his best to bring in all the variants, via open borders.

    Doug can take his stay at home order and shove it, we are not a dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Is fishing essential or non-essential? Say one or the other. Nothing else. Pick one.
    Fishing isn't the issue. To the civic officials in Port Hope the issue is people coming from outside of the region to fish in waters controlled by the municipality.
    Last edited by Badenoch; May 19th, 2021 at 04:00 PM.

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    Texas is wide open and put a stop to mandatory masking. Just the other day announced ZERO deaths from covid. 16000 fans at ufc no masks.
    Florida wide open 15000 fan event three weeks ago.

    Stay at home, makes no sense

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    Tell me. Have you ever gone over the speed limit??

    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    There are two laws you should read then you might have a clearer understanding of how far reaching police and public health powers are under a declared state of emergency.

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90e09

    https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h07
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013)

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