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    I am reloading for a 270 Winchester

    So I am wondering what your preferred Primers preferably for all around. I am using Winchester and wondering if others have a prferred brand and if so why?

    Currently I am using Powder H4895 and wondering what others would recommend? What powder would you you try for all around bullets. Generally I buy for bullets whatever I find cheap currently I have around some 130 gr.

    Another question if you shoot 9 mm what powders did you find good and what gn bullet performed best for you?.
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    Winchester large rifle primers, R22 powder.
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    I've used Federal Gold March primers for the most part. Now until this year the majority of my reloading was a quest to make a 1 moa hand load for my M305. I found the Federal Gold Match to be very consistent.

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    When it comes to rifle reloading. I always go to my Hornaday reloading manual and see what bullet weight I am buying, then look at the different powders that can be used. I find around Ottawa area the combo you (4198 and WP) are using is almost always available right off the shelf.

    Load testing different powders and primers is fun, and it is what I do to find the best performance using, powder, bullet weight and primer. I only use winchester primers, small rifle, larger rifle, small pistol when reloading rifle. Interesting enough small rifle primers also work with the same performance in small pistol calibers. I have switched up both small rifle and small pistol in both with very little difference in FPS. (do as you see fit, and feel safe doing)

    When developing my 9mm Cast and PC coated bullets I used 7 different pistol powders and found 700X performed the best, used the least powder to achieve the 1100 to 1200FPS for my carbine 9mm rifle. 700X is also a shotgun powder, so it has dual use and is always easy to find in stores.

    You have several different types of firearms and you should start cross referencing if there is any common powder that can be used across all the platforms you own. A perfect example of one rifle powder I have IMR 3031, can be used in .223, 30-30 and 308, so I have been stocking that powder as a cross platform powder.

    My Chronograph (Caldwell new, after I accidently shot the old), with app on phone has been a great help in developing my loads.

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    Stittesville has CAMPRO 9MM FMJ bullet heads in 124GR RN for about $120 for a bag of 1000, it is a good deal, cost per 1000 reloads is .21 cents per round to reload. Casting and powder coating costs me .08 cent per round.

    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    I am reloading for a 270 Winchester

    So I am wondering what your preferred Primers preferably for all around. I am using Winchester and wondering if others have a prferred brand and if so why?

    Currently I am using Powder H4895 and wondering what others would recommend? What powder would you you try for all around bullets. Generally I buy for bullets whatever I find cheap currently I have around some 130 gr.

    Another question if you shoot 9 mm what powders did you find good and what gn bullet performed best for you?.
    Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party

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    OK so When I first picked H4895 for my 270 , I had picked it because it should also work for the 303 Brit., so maybe I should just stay with that.

    What place sells the Campro in Ottawa.


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    Stittesville has CAMPRO 9MM FMJ bullet heads in 124GR RN for about $120 for a bag of 1000, it is a good deal, cost per 1000 reloads is .21 cents per round to reload. Casting and powder coating costs me .08 cent per round.
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    I’ve got it GW you don’t have a loading manual with enough receipts to choke a horse, you are hoping we can give you some ideas that will make your rifle shoot straighter. I don’t do use a .270, I use its big brother the ‘06. Again I shoot cast not jacketed bullets, the powder I found that performed the best in the ‘06 was H-205, I picked it up at a gun show they stop making it years ago. Your H-4895 should give you a fair bit of flexibility, it lends itself well to load reduction.. When using my .243 my old stand by was IMR 4064. Now I’m playing around a bit with H-322 and it’s provided some good results. As far a primers, I generally use WLR, right now I’m working with some CIL Magnum LR primers, they seem to function well, as long as they ignite the powder charge, I’m happy... .

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    I do have some reloading manuals, but I ma still learning. Like I said I am using H4895. The results seem pretty good I have loaded some 130 gn bullets with 42 gn and some with 43 gn. To see if I get better performance. Last time out at the range the bullets loaded with 42 gn performed OK but could be better, but it might have been my scope. So I now loaded some with 43 gn to see what the difference is.

    I buy Winchester Primers but was just wondering what everyone else uses. So I guess I will stick with what I have for the moment. I am just about out of H4895 I was wondering if I should try something else or not. I guess once I have a good round I might as well stick with it.

    I use these guides

    Lyman 48th Reloading Handbook
    imr_reloading
    and I use this site
    https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    I’ve got it GW you don’t have a loading manual with enough receipts to choke a horse, you are hoping we can give you some ideas that will make your rifle shoot straighter. I don’t do use a .270, I use its big brother the ‘06. Again I shoot cast not jacketed bullets, the powder I found that performed the best in the ‘06 was H-205, I picked it up at a gun show they stop making it years ago. Your H-4895 should give you a fair bit of flexibility, it lends itself well to load reduction.. When using my .243 my old stand by was IMR 4064. Now I’m playing around a bit with H-322 and it’s provided some good results. As far a primers, I generally use WLR, right now I’m working with some CIL Magnum LR primers, they seem to function well, as long as they ignite the powder charge, I’m happy... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    I do have some reloading manuals, but I ma still learning. Like I said I am using H4895. The results seem pretty good I have loaded some 130 gn bullets with 42 gn and some with 43 gn. To see if I get better performance. Last time out at the range the bullets loaded with 42 gn performed OK but could be better, but it might have been my scope. So I now loaded some with 43 gn to see what the difference is.

    I buy Winchester Primers but was just wondering what everyone else uses. So I guess I will stick with what I have for the moment. I am just about out of H4895 I was wondering if I should try something else or not. I guess once I have a good round I might as well stick with it.

    I use these guides

    Lyman 48th Reloading Handbook
    imr_reloading
    and I use this site
    https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/
    I now I can see a bit of your dilemma I the 48th there is no receipt for H-4895, the nearest thing I can find is in the 45th and 46th. and in both it's IMR 4895, so it's relatively close.
    130 gr IMR 4895 42.0 grs M.V. 2,680 C.P. 41,100 CUP (starting)
    (MAX.) 48.5 grs M.V. 3,030 C.P. 54.400 CUP (45th Ed.)
    (MAX.) 47.5 grs M.V. 3,032 C.P. 51,800 CUP (46th Ed.)
    IMR 4064 is a good powder and you will find application for both your 270 and 303.
    Hope this is helpful.

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    Here is the thing, at the moment the primers that you should use are simply the ones that you can get. Last spring I wanted to get more Win Large Rifle primers, they did not have any in stock as almost everything was gone, so I went with Win Magnum Large Rifle primers. Since I am building loads up from scratch it really does not matter if I use regular or magnum primers.

    Winchester primers are the hottest primers out there, their large rifle is the hottest of the large rifle and the magnum is the hottest of the magnum but not all that much hotter than the standard winchester primers.

    Remember, you cannot just swap a primer or a case and be safe, you need to develop a load with all the components you are using, even minimum book loads need to be tested, with some brass, primer and powder combinations the minimum book load may be borderline with your rifle.

    H4895 is a great powder that can be used for a pile of things, but good luck finding any right now.

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