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July 24th, 2021, 09:13 PM
#21

Originally Posted by
Big Tuna
Even if you are the camp cook going out to help the lift a buddy's deer into the truck, better make sure you are wearing orange. Tracking shot deer and removal from the woods is still part of the hunt.
Tracking , yes…you are hunting. Recovering game is not hunting, as advised by a CO…..
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July 24th, 2021 09:13 PM
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July 24th, 2021, 09:37 PM
#22
Vehicles, boats and aircraft, use for hunting, etc.
Vehicles
24 (1) A person shall not use a vehicle for the purpose of killing, injuring, capturing, harassing, pursuing or chasing wildlife.
Boats
Above the the FWCA section that I think applies to using a vehicle to hunt. It is illegal to do that so if I'm riding my ATV which I can't use to hunt then I shouldn't need an orange helmut .... unless I get right off my bike and shoot a critter without putting on my orange cap. If he's saying I need the orange helmut while on the ATV because I'm hunting then he must be saying it is legal to use a vehicle to do those things above. Can't have it both ways!!
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July 24th, 2021, 09:59 PM
#23

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
Above the the FWCA section that I think applies to using a vehicle to hunt. It is illegal to do that so if I'm riding my ATV which I can't use to hunt then I shouldn't need an orange helmut .... unless I get right off my bike and shoot a critter without putting on my orange cap. If he's saying I need the orange helmut while on the ATV because I'm hunting then he must be saying it is legal to use a vehicle to do those things above. Can't have it both ways!!
That's my understanding,too. I was in court when a case came up on the docket exactly like that. The hunter was charged with "fail to wear proper orange........." His defense was that he wasn't hunting from his ATV because that was illegal. He was riding his ATV where orange helmet wasn't required until he got off his ATV,loaded his rifle and began to hunt. The judge bought it and dismissed the charge. Granted,that was quite some time ago,but,it's still simple common sense. That's why I'm quite surprised that the CO would state that the way he did.
Last edited by trimmer21; July 24th, 2021 at 10:02 PM.
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July 24th, 2021, 10:57 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Only if you are the owner/occupier of the property..
not sure about that one.
what difference does it make its still private property.
ride the atv all the time on buddys farm.
CO has never said anything about a helmet or checked if i had a driving license. (knows i dont own the farm)
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July 24th, 2021, 11:38 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
That's my understanding,too. I was in court when a case came up on the docket exactly like that. The hunter was charged with "fail to wear proper orange........." His defense was that he wasn't hunting from his ATV because that was illegal. He was riding his ATV where orange helmet wasn't required until he got off his ATV,loaded his rifle and began to hunt. The judge bought it and dismissed the charge. Granted,that was quite some time ago,but,it's still simple common sense. That's why I'm quite surprised that the CO would state that the way he did.
X3 -You can not hunt from the ATV(can not even have a loaded gun on the ATV)Hunter orange is needed only when hunting. Thus -wearing orange while on ATV is a convenience thing, to hop off ,WALK off the road minimum 8 m !!!!! THEN load and THEN do the deed.
With the same logic everyone in possession of an unloaded firearm ,in season,while driving truck,car etc in areas inhabited with wildlife would need to wear orange hat and vest.
Not that i have an ATV,so i would need to worry
Last edited by gbk; July 24th, 2021 at 11:43 PM.
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July 25th, 2021, 05:55 AM
#26

Originally Posted by
gbk
X3 -You can not hunt from the ATV(can not even have a loaded gun on the ATV)Hunter orange is needed only when hunting. Thus -wearing orange while on ATV is a convenience thing, to hop off ,WALK off the road minimum 8 m !!!!! THEN load and THEN do the deed.
With the same logic everyone in possession of an unloaded firearm ,in season,while driving truck,car etc in areas inhabited with wildlife would need to wear orange hat and vest.
Not that i have an ATV,so i would need to worry

Hunting, and having a loaded firearm on a vehicle are two entirely different things. I suggest you read what the CO said.
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July 25th, 2021, 05:57 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
Bowjob
not sure about that one.
what difference does it make its still private property.
ride the atv all the time on buddys farm.
CO has never said anything about a helmet or checked if i had a driving license. (knows i dont own the farm)
The difference is, it’s the law. You don’t need a DL unless on a roadway…..but you need a helmet, plate and insurance unless you are the owner of the property.
Helmet
[COLOR=#505050]19 (1) No person shall drive an off-road vehicle or ride on an off-road vehicle or on a conveyance towed by an off-road vehicle unless he or she is wearing a helmet that complies with the regulations, securely fastened under his or her chin with a chin strap. R.S.O. 1990, c. O.4, s. 19 (1).
Idem
[COLOR=#505050](2) This section does not apply to a person driving or riding on an off-road vehicle or on a conveyance towed by an off-road vehicle where the owner of the off-road vehicle is the occupier of the land. R.S.O. 1990, c. O.4, s. 19 (2).
Last edited by rick_iles; July 25th, 2021 at 06:01 AM.
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July 25th, 2021, 06:17 AM
#28
I ended up spray painting my helmut orange after being warned by a CO during moose season.
Seen him the next day, he stopped us and he laughed pretty hard. I used that road orange spray can....did the visor and all complete orange. There...now I'm safe
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July 25th, 2021, 06:55 AM
#29

Originally Posted by
SongDog
I ended up spray painting my helmut orange after being warned by a CO during moose season.
Seen him the next day, he stopped us and he laughed pretty hard. I used that road orange spray can....did the visor and all complete orange. There...now I'm safe
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I’ll do that on my second skid lid, if I can find the right paint…
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July 25th, 2021, 07:11 AM
#30
What about driving to my hunting spot in a truck? How is it any different? Am I required to wear orange in the truck? Often Ieave camp in the truck and drive to the other end of the property to start a drive or whatever. What's the difference?