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    lmfao. that must be the stupidest thing ive seen in months.

    "together"

    as in hunters ,sports shooters, and the government can help keep guns out of the wrong hands. what pictures would you like them to have up there? i honestly dont get how some peoples minds work now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowjob View Post
    lmfao. that must be the stupidest thing ive seen in months.

    "together"

    as in hunters ,sports shooters, and the government can help keep guns out of the wrong hands. what pictures would you like them to have up there? i honestly dont get how some peoples minds work now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowjob View Post
    what pictures would you like them to have up there? i honestly dont get how some peoples minds work now a days.

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    It's very well known that negative words/feelings associate with negative images in our brain much better then positive ones (example study for you here: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0024862 - there are bunch more if you care to explore a bit..)

    This ad campaign is not aimed to be displayed to hunting audience, but to general voting public.
    Thus the negative keywords in the sentence are MEANT to be associated with given image in order to trigger a negative response when the time is right....
    If you think that an accident; You are clearly not too familiar with targeted advertising techniques and basic psychology...

    Need more proof - go review bunch of smear political campaign that happen around every election ---
    Whos picture do you see on the screen when some crap is being said - the one being smeared OR the one who sponsored the ad ???

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    Liberals and lies... they just go together don't they. When you look at the history and bans in the past there is no evidence they care about actual crimes and based on their repeated comments and actions the creep goes on and they are trying to make up for a 10 year delay caused by a competent government being in power. Seizing property, censorship, lies, coverups, fear mongering, division.... but let's stick to their firearm policies, the page they had before 2019 had many outrageous lies and fear mongering so let's look at where we are now. Atleast the lies on the ATT aren't in their page now, fear mongering is still there, but if you need an ATT make sure to check the CCFR and Ian Runkle's videos on the b.s. related to the changes there.

    https://liberal.ca/our-platform/gun-control/

    Gun crime is on the rise, and too often people are killed or injured because criminals have used military-style assault rifles. These guns are designed to inflict mass casualties and have no place in Canada. Canadians are tired of excuses and know that “thoughts and prayers” don’t make our communities any safer.

    Bans of some style of rifle don't work, delusional and lies... oh when it is a style it isn't that object and based on their spending less than 1/4 their promise - LIbEral Lie 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHpNTWFtn6M


    Unlike Conservatives, who want to weaken Canada’s gun laws, we will make gun laws stronger. We will move forward with a ban on all military-style assault rifles, including the AR-15, and will take other steps to keep people safe from gun violence, including:

    Same as above.... lie 2. Seems that the law abiding are the problem and especially given the reality that the current gun laws do checks on the law abiding daily.... while real criminals don't have daily checks.... hmmmm

    introducing a buyback program for all military-style assault rifles legally purchased in Canada, with fair market prices for owners and more resources for law enforcement to administer the program;

    They have said the budget is less than $50,000,000.... less than $500 per firearm, I guess "fair market" means that since they are useless now they have no value.... Same as above too and "fair" value... LIbEral Lie 3
    The PMO got very mad when the budget office said it would be $750,000,000+

    working with provinces and territories to give municipalities the ability to further restrict or ban handguns; and
    protecting the rights of hunters and farmers, by not bringing back the long-gun registry. Hunters and farmers do not use or need assault weapons.

    Politicizing and giving municipalities the ability to restrict or ban legally owned personal property. I guess not a lie, just b.s.
    "assault weapons" .... definition please, the semi automatic rifles on the OIC are used by hunters, farmers, target shooters etc. LIbEral Lie 4

    C-71 .... there is a required transaction ID and a registry of transactions and a person called a registrar.... registry is back essentially Lie 5


    To crack down on gun crime and make our communities safer places to live, we will:

    continue to fight gang-related violence, by investing an additional $50 million each year, for five years, in a dedicated funding stream to help municipalities meet the needs of communities at risk;
    work to expand successful diversion programs to keep at-risk youth out of the criminal justice system;

    See video and actually spending.... repeat of Lies 1 and 2 **NOTE $50M to fight criminals, according to budget office over $750M to take them from the law abiding.

    make sure the Canada Border Services Agency and Royal Canadian Mounted Police have the resources they need to detect and stop the flow of weapons at our borders;
    require everyone importing ammunition to show proof of a valid firearms license;
    make it harder for legal weapons to get into the hands of criminals by further strengthening safe-storage laws;
    address the problem of gender-based and intimate-partner violence head on, by temporarily suspending firearms licenses for people who are suspected of posing a danger to themselves or others, including their partners or kids;
    introduce a system for flagging bulk purchases of guns;
    strengthen penalties for people seeking to smuggle firearms into Canada; and
    limit the glorification of violence, by changing the way firearms are advertised, marketed, and sold in Canada.

    Vague promises, items that already exist and twisted fiction .... not a lie but as close as you can get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowjob View Post
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    "together"

    as in hunters ,sports shooters, and the government can help keep guns out of the wrong hands. what pictures would you like them to have up there? i honestly dont get how some peoples minds work now a days.

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    Look at the ad-then look at the comment "wrong hands" then look at the red arrow pointing at the hunter and at the sport shooter...............Does not take much imagination for a clueless person to associate the arrow pointing AT THEM TWO ,to be the "wrong hand".

    RE:"together"
    What do You think-what kind of possibilities the hunter or a sport shooter has to prevent guns getting in wrong hands anyway?(other then not selling it to anyone without a license?).
    The ads wording itself is misleading!
    How about the chances this is what they try to say(together -us, the Government and You, the Citizen ,can prevent guns getting in wrong hands = hunters and sport shooters).

    Sounds more clear now?

    At the end-to your question what picture to put there-how about posting a picture of some notorious murderer from the recent past(how about the N Scotia mass murderer, or picture of few convicted gang bangers from Toronto,or maybe the Norwegian butcher who killed up to 80 young innocents,or the Vegas killer???).

    Life is a whole lot more complicated then to jump on a bandwagon without thinking for a sec.

    At the end- those ,who's mind may can not be understood(here on this very Forum, or out there )because they try to say something ,which does not go along with the main stream flavour of the day..........are mostly outspoken, factually argumentative BUT in general respectful people. Contrarily to their annoyingly persistent/obnoxious/rude/name calling etc counterparts.
    Just sit back,and watch...this Forum itslef is the mirror of that.

    PS-there are always exceptions,but if You monitor closely,eventually You will see .........
    Last edited by gbk; July 31st, 2021 at 05:38 AM.

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    I couldn't of said it better.
    Thanks Guys, for taking the time and explaining it to him.
    Real nice of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbk View Post
    Look at the ad-then look at the comment "wrong hands" then look at the red arrow pointing at the hunter and at the sport shooter...............Does not take much imagination for a clueless person to associate the arrow pointing AT THEM TWO ,to be the "wrong hand".

    RE:"together"
    What do You think-what kind of possibilities the hunter or a sport shooter has to prevent guns getting in wrong hands anyway?(other then not selling it to anyone without a license?).
    The ads wording itself is misleading!
    How about the chances this is what they try to say(together -us, the Government and You, the Citizen ,can prevent guns getting in wrong hands = hunters and sport shooters).

    Sounds more clear now?

    At the end-to your question what picture to put there-how about posting a picture of some notorious murderer from the recent past(how about the N Scotia mass murderer, or picture of few convicted gang bangers from Toronto,or maybe the Norwegian butcher who killed up to 80 young innocents,or the Vegas killer???).

    Life is a whole lot more complicated then to jump on a bandwagon without thinking for a sec.

    At the end- those ,who's mind may can not be understood(here on this very Forum, or out there )because they try to say something ,which does not go along with the main stream flavour of the day..........are mostly outspoken, factually argumentative BUT in general respectful people. Contrarily to their annoyingly persistent/obnoxious/rude/name calling etc counterparts.
    Just sit back,and watch...this Forum itslef is the mirror of that.

    PS-there are always exceptions,but if You monitor closely,eventually You will see .........
    Your post suggests the "red arrow" in the blog article was in the original government web page. It wasn't but was added by the blogger.

    While not an unreasonable complaint that pictures of a hunter and sport shooter do not fairly represent who the "wrong hands" are the linked article also points out the offending picture has been removed from the government website in response to complaints from firearms owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    Same as the 'Reconciliation'...a 100 yr old issue pops up just before the Village Idiot will be looking for votes...He sweeps in, names an Indigenous GG, takes a knee with a teddy bear at some unknown gravesite, and then promises $Billions!! to the Indigenous to find answers.

    All to appease the 1.67 million indigenous people (4.9% of the population of Canada)...who are on record to provide a vote for cash.
    MikePal Iím not sure providing Ďa vote for cash,í really goes to the heart of the matter. History would suggest, that all the indigenous people seem to get from Conservative governments is mostly grief, and very little hope. Meanwhile from Liberal governments they usually get half baked promises with extensive date lines and piece meal attention, which appears at least to give them some degree of hope. A part from that, other parties that might give them the attention they crave are not likely to be given the opportunity to form government. The Liberals arenít going out of their way to buy votes. They are simply providing a stimulus to unrequited hopes.
    In a similar manner law-abiding firearm enthusiasts get strung a long by the Conservatives. The big difference is there are virtually no other political alternatives, although the PPC attempt to float one, again another party not likely to be given the opportunity to form government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    MikePal I’m not sure providing ‘a vote for cash,’ really goes to the heart of the matter.
    The Indian act allowed the Indigenous to become dependant on government Welfare and in doing so they have never been allowed to develop themself as a self-sufficient society. So they, as you have said, became benefactors to the favours of the political parties of the day.
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    That doesn't explain anything to me and my opinion on the matter doesn't change at all. Complaining about stupidity and taken out of context imo.


    I dont see anything wrong with what they had there.

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