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Thread: Email from RCMP that I need to apply for ATT again? spam or real

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    Not sure ... criminals perform criminal acts only because they convince themselves they won't get caught.
    Same reason people that live in states that have the death sentence still commit those crimes ... they don't think about the punishment, because they don't think they will be caught.

    I'm all for tighter penalties ... but I think we have to recognize, criminals don't care about laws.

    Look at our current government, threatening the attorney general, interfering with RCMP and ethics violations, assisting a company in evading criminal acts, blocking RCMP and ethics investigations, reducing mandatory sentences, removing the requirement to disclose spending from Indian reserves.... I don't think our current Liberal government cares about the laws too, they actually reduced mandatory sentences on many crimes too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Having listened to 17 minutes of Runkle's droning he clearly doesn't understand how the system works or doesn't own a restricted and/or prohibited handgun.

    He says he wants a piece of paper proving the conditions. If he owned restricted firearms and/or prohibited handguns he would have the former conditions on paper. He can expect to receive a replacement piece of paper with the new conditions shortly if he doesn't already have it.

    His conclusion that you need to buy a new restricted to bring the conditions into force is complete nonsense.

    Your comments seem like you skimmed and didn't pay attention or you think his trying to explain the idiocy in this legislation and actually looking at and quoting the legislation and people being informed is nonsense .... an advocate of ignorance or just unwilling to... never mind... sad. A firearms lawyer that just did a 3 gun competition and is quoting the laws and you have greater "wisdom"

    I hope others take his advice and choose to not blindly trust the government, he is right "interesting legal cases are expensive" and this government has lies probably thousands of times since 2015 and the RCMP, well remember, they broke the law and kept a copy of the firearms registry and have given bad advice and messed up many times.
    Last edited by mosquito; August 3rd, 2021 at 05:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
    Your comments seem like you skimmed and didn't pay attention or you think his trying to explain the idiocy in this legislation and actually looking at and quoting the legislation and people being informed is nonsense .... an advocate of ignorance or just unwilling to... never mind... sad. A firearms lawyer that just did a 3 gun competition and is quoting the laws and you have greater "wisdom"

    I hope others take his advice and choose to not blindly trust the government, he is right "interesting legal cases are expensive" and this government has lies probably thousands of times since 2015 and the RCMP, well remember, they broke the law and kept a copy of the firearms registry and have given bad advice and messed up many times.
    Idiotic is recommending you buy a restricted firearm to bring the conditions into effect. They are listed on the special conditions notice provided by the RCMP. He said repeatedly he wanted paper. He has or at least should have paper and will get replacement paper.

    This is what the old one looks like:



    And here's what the new one looks like:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Having listened to 17 minutes of Runkle's droning he clearly doesn't understand how the system works or doesn't own a restricted and/or prohibited handgun.

    He says he wants a piece of paper proving the conditions. If he owned restricted firearms and/or prohibited handguns he would have the former conditions on paper. He can expect to receive a replacement piece of paper with the new conditions shortly if he doesn't already have it.

    His conclusion that you need to buy a new restricted to bring the conditions into force is complete nonsense.
    Runkle is a lawyer, who is an active restricted firearms owner/shooter. While he may not give the appearance of a hollywood idol and his "droning" might bore you, be assured, I'd much rather listen to his advice/suggestions.
    Last edited by finsfurfeathers; August 3rd, 2021 at 07:39 PM. Reason: personal insults removed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    Runkle is a lawyer, who is an active restricted firearms owner/shooter. While he may not give the appearance of a hollywood idol and his "droning" might bore you, be assured, I'd much rather listen to his advice/suggestions.
    Then maybe he should have waited a day or two.

    You always had to keep the paperwork with your conditions on your when transporting, if it was a long term ATT then you had to keep that, now they have a long term ATT to go to any gun range in Ontario as a standard condition. This is actually easier than before Harper changed it, it used to be that you could only go to 1 gun range and you had to get a new short term ATT to go to any other gun range and you needed an invitation from that club to be able to get that short term ATT.

    I do agree that this is annoying but this is not as bad as it was back with the last Liberals at the helm, not yet at least.

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