Mandated Vaccines - The law - Read about your rights

[rick_iles]

They have to prove the workplaces wasn't safe....if 80% are vaccinated and herd immunity in about 25% (statistically) of unvaccinated having recovered from the virus...the level of exposure doesn't warrant an 'unsafe' environment...just saying back at ya

Like I said previously, there will be lots of rich(er) lawyers around when this all shakes out…

[MikePal]

Like I said previously, there will be lots of rich(er) lawyers around when this all shakes out…

Blanket mandates like this are full of legal holes..because it demands across-the-board compliance and enforcement for all employees. Federal Regulated employees in Moose Crotch Sask, where they haven't had a positive covid case since March of 2020 face the same requirements to be fully vaccinated to ensure a safe workplace. The workplace is already safe and forcing them to get vaccinated or lose their jobs will be easy for the Union lawyers to refute in court.

If it wins there, the win will hold for any Federal regulated employee across Canada.

[MarkB]

Your last paragraph is false information.

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Well, in a weird twisty way ... he's kind of right ... in fact it's pretty bad in Ontario. My wife was wrongfully dismissed (her boss was telling her to do treatments on a patient just to make more money, but it was going to damage the patient's skin, which my wife could have been held liable for) ... we lodged a complaint with the government. They found that there was a case of wrongful dismissal, and no notice or severance was paid. They sent her employer letters, fines, etc ... the employer simply did not respond to anything.

Government had no recourse ... basically told us, we're sorry, we've done as much as we are legally allowed to do.

So basically the law has no bite ... maybe we could have gone to court ... but no lawyer wanted to do that for 2 weeks severance pay, given she had only been working for the company for 8 months or so.

[MikePal]

be interesting to see what will happen when due to 'Mandatory' vaccination...something like this happens !!

According to New Zealand health officials, a woman died after she was administered the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine.

The country's health ministry said an independent COVID-19 vaccine safety monitoring board had concluded that the woman’s death was due to myocarditis which is a rare side effect of the Pfizer vaccine.

The health ministry said: "This is the first case in New Zealand where a death in the days following vaccination has been linked to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine."

[WillieBeno]

be interesting to see what will happen when due to 'Mandatory' vaccination...something like this happens !!

Yeah really, I wonder if theyt were served a notice of liability prior?

[line052]

In a unionized environment (which in related threads you also attempt to be an expert), most termination cases where just cause cannot be proven by the company an arbitrator will award the employee their job back and a settlement for their missed time.

In the 8 terminations I've dealt with in the past 3 years, 7 were reinstated with no loss of benefits, seniority or pay.

No link needed to prove that you can't fire anyone for any reason depending on the severance. Keep trying to prove yourself as credible though, the entertainment is second to none.

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BINGO, his self serving posts are getting tiresome.

[M_P]

I watched a program on TV regarding employee rights etc. Two labour lawyers said since providing a safe workplace trumps all else, vaccine mandates would hold up in court…..just saying’.

why do we need 100% vax to have a safe workplace? If a person has been vaxxed then they have protection against anything that the unvaxxed can carry. Or does this thing not work? Simple question really. Is it effective or not?

[MikePal]

The vaccines were effective in keeping you out of the hospital..it flattened the curve that the health community was so worried about from the get-go.

However the vaccine is degrading quickly in its efficacy in preventing you from of contracting the virus, down to 35% since it's initial 95%.

Stats say in Ont, for example, that 24% of those testing positive now are fully vaxxed and that number is climbing.

And it's beginning to fail in prevent getting you from being very sick with the virus again ( 60% of patients in the Hosptials in Isreal were fully vaxxed) These more transmittable variants appear to overwhelm the efficacy of the vaccine especially in those with comorbidity issues.


Ergo the need for a Booster shot soon.

[MarkB]

why do we need 100% vax to have a safe workplace? If a person has been vaxxed then they have protection against anything that the unvaxxed can carry. Or does this thing not work? Simple question really. Is it effective or not?

I think there's a number of things to consider:

- the main point of the vaccine is not to STOP the virus ... it can't. The main point is to reduce severity of illness, so our ICU is not inundated with COVID patients ...
- in an office environment, the theory is that an unvaccinated person is likely to become more severely ill, and cough and spew germs everywhere, increasing the rate of infection.
- there's some people who cannot take the vaccine for medical reasons (ex. have a blood clotting disorder), and they have a right to protection. If there's an increased risk because an unvaccinated person is coughing and spewing the virus everywhere (because they are more severely ill) ... then that person who wants to, but cannot get the vaccine ... is in a predicament.

That's the only real angles I can see ... and by the way, I am vaccinated, but I do understand people's reservations for not getting the vaccine because it was likely not sufficiently tested. I do not believe the conspiracy theories though ... they are not well thought out at all, in my opinion.

[MikePal]

I still haven't got an answer to what fully vaxxed people are afraid of...you trust the vaccine don't you ??

In a room full of vaccinated people and one unvaccinated...who's at risk ?

You can't get it from him and he can't get it from you ...