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September 17th, 2021, 12:55 PM
#21

Originally Posted by
MarkB
There's always three stories. Side A, Side B and the truth. Vaccine-supporters and Anti-Vaxxers ... they'll both go eye deep into their narrative.
The truth is in the middle. Here's where I think the middle is.
- covid was leaked, not sure if it was by accident or on purpose
- covid is bad, it is not "just like the flu", it is worse. I know people who have died from it, and healthy people that have had serious illness from it (including that they still after 6 months cannot smell or taste anything). I know of an anti-vaxx family, husband got covid, died in hospital last week. Wife now regrets not taking vaccine ... father leaves her behind and a 6 year old kid.
- vaccine does reduce the severity of the infection ... based on current Ontario statistics you have 16 times (1600% more chance) of developing severe illness requiring hospitalization if you are unvaccinated.
- vaccine has likely not been tested sufficiently. Speed to market was the key issue here ... both to make $$ (whoever was first, Pfizer/Moderna won), and to try and curb the illness.
- vaccine does not stop you from getting COVID ... anti-vaxxers are incorrectly using statistics to say vaccine doesn't work. It is irrelevant to say ... you see 400 covid infections today are with vaccinated people. The answer to that is, so what?? That's actually supposed to happen. The vaccine only reduces the likelyhood of developing a severe illness to COVID.
My stance on the whole matter is that getting the vaccine should be a choice ... but with that choice comes responsibility.
You equally have to respect one another's choice. It should not matter if the person beside you got the vaccine or not. It is for you to decide.
Your choice carries responsibility ... for example ... the vaccinated should not be punished with a lockdown, if unvaccinated fill the ICUs ... perhaps
then the unvaccinated should be subject to a shutdown, if they are found to be the problematic group ... and a decision like that must be based on
real data, not feelings or speculation.
Yup can't argue with that summation
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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September 17th, 2021 12:55 PM
# ADS
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September 25th, 2021, 09:40 AM
#22
Vaccine Adverse Events in Ontario (Sep 12-Sep 18)
- Reporting rate increasing in all age brackets
- 12 more hospitalizations
- 22 more cases of Myocarditis/pericarditis.
- 172 very cryptic Other Severe or Unusual Events (see img for more)
Attachment 42305
Source: https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...efi-report.pdf
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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September 25th, 2021, 11:18 AM
#23
Here is a side effect of them or from them and shows how they don't work.
https://youtu.be/gqVfrKR_tDc
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September 25th, 2021, 05:14 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Good find
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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September 27th, 2021, 08:02 PM
#25
Several athletes have reported serious vaccine effects. The latest:
https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tenni...-problems-now/
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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September 27th, 2021, 08:13 PM
#26
Yeah I think there side affects with the Moderna, I notice my hair turning gray.

Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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September 29th, 2021, 03:32 PM
#27

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Yeah I think there side affects with the Moderna, I notice my hair turning gray.
Global has just reported that the Ontario Gov't is not recommending Moderna for young men due to risk of myocarditis. Now we wait until they have to disclose the next side effect etc etc.
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September 29th, 2021, 07:45 PM
#28

Originally Posted by
M_P
Global has just reported that the Ontario Gov't is not recommending Moderna for young men due to risk of myocarditis. Now we wait until they have to disclose the next side effect etc etc.
Yepp. But they all said it was safe and effective, when it's neither safe nor effective.
Spike proteins are toxins.
Where's the accountability to all those doctors that pushed mixing shots & saying that myocarditis wasn't a concern?
They should all have their licenses stripped for not following their pledged oath, 'do no harm.'
We need doctors who care about patients not vaccine salesmen.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ne...urce=onesignal
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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October 4th, 2021, 07:09 AM
#29
Seattle, WA — Jessica Berg Wilson, an "exceptionally healthy and vibrant 37-year-old young mother with no underlying health conditions," passed away from covid vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. She did not want to get vaccinated.
https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obit...?pid=200278331
The government knows how evil this mRNA shot is. They want you to play Russian roulette with your life.
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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October 4th, 2021, 07:40 AM
#30

Originally Posted by
MarkB
There's always three stories. Side A, Side B and the truth. Vaccine-supporters and Anti-Vaxxers ... they'll both go eye deep into their narrative.
The truth is in the middle. Here's where I think the middle is.
- covid was leaked, not sure if it was by accident or on purpose
- covid is bad, it is not "just like the flu", it is worse. I know people who have died from it, and healthy people that have had serious illness from it (including that they still after 6 months cannot smell or taste anything). I know of an anti-vaxx family, husband got covid, died in hospital last week. Wife now regrets not taking vaccine ... father leaves her behind and a 6 year old kid.
- vaccine does reduce the severity of the infection ... based on current Ontario statistics you have 16 times (1600% more chance) of developing severe illness requiring hospitalization if you are unvaccinated.
- vaccine has likely not been tested sufficiently. Speed to market was the key issue here ... both to make $$ (whoever was first, Pfizer/Moderna won), and to try and curb the illness.
- vaccine does not stop you from getting COVID ... anti-vaxxers are incorrectly using statistics to say vaccine doesn't work. It is irrelevant to say ... you see 400 covid infections today are with vaccinated people. The answer to that is, so what?? That's actually supposed to happen. The vaccine only reduces the likelyhood of developing a severe illness to COVID.
My stance on the whole matter is that getting the vaccine should be a choice ... but with that choice comes responsibility.
You equally have to respect one another's choice. It should not matter if the person beside you got the vaccine or not. It is for you to decide.
Your choice carries responsibility ... for example ... the vaccinated should not be punished with a lockdown, if unvaccinated fill the ICUs ... perhaps
then the unvaccinated should be subject to a shutdown, if they are found to be the problematic group ... and a decision like that must be based on
real data, not feelings or speculation.
That's about where I am with this.
I do think that the pro-vax side has hurt themselves by putting out questionable information and by pushing for mandatory vaccinations.