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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Menard View Post
    As Canada doesn’t have “castle doctrine” or “stand your ground” legislation,
    Sorry, yes my I didn't see the spell checker corrected my post. I was referring to 'Castle Doctrine...in which case you can shot a trespasser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpygeezer View Post
    He could have simply yelled at the guy to get him outa there while calling the police.
    And no questions would have been asked either if he fell while being hauled out of your truck by the scuff of his neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpygeezer View Post
    Maybe people shouldn`t be taking things that don`t belong to them in the first place. Was the shooting justified? Probably not. He could have simply yelled at the guy to get him outa there while calling the police. He will most likely get some time over this.
    I had this talk with someone about things like this, trying to steal a car is not a reason for the death penalty. If the guy genuinely felt that he was about to be killed then he made his decision and others would also have to make theirs but once you touch that trigger you are responsible for those actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I had this talk with someone about things like this, trying to steal a car is not a reason for the death penalty. If the guy genuinely felt that he was about to be killed then he made his decision and others would also have to make theirs but once you touch that trigger you are responsible for those actions.
    Is there evidence the suspect tried to steal the truck?

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    Khill says that he saw the dashboard light on in his truck but I didn't see any evidence provided for that beyond his statement.

    The point is moot though doesn't matter if the truck was being stolen or not, you are not suppose to load up and go confront the suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Is there evidence the suspect tried to steal the truck?
    Well that is the statement yes, I am not in the court to see the evidence and nothing either way has been made public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Menard View Post
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...sion-1.6209230

    My bet is that the Supreme Court denies the appeal which will result in a re-trial and, ultimately, Mr. Khill’s conviction.
    Thats not how this works. If SCC denies the appeal the case is done and over with.

    But thats not what happened, SCC allowed the appeal and ordered a new trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJohnson View Post
    Thats not how this works. If SCC denies the appeal the case is done and over with.

    But thats not what happened, SCC allowed the appeal and ordered a new trial.

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    My understanding is that Mr, Khil appealed the SCC to prevent his acquittal from being appealed. If the SCC demies to hear Mr. Khil’s appeal to the Supreme Court then the Crown can go forward and appeal the original conviction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Menard View Post
    My understanding is that Mr, Khil appealed the SCC to prevent his acquittal from being appealed. If the SCC demies to hear Mr. Khil’s appeal to the Supreme Court then the Crown can go forward and appeal the original conviction.
    Sorry, but statement "appealed the SCC to prevent his acquittal from being appealed" doesnt make any sense. The case was already appealed at the Court of Appeal.

    The Court of Appeal overturned his aquittal. He appealed to the SCC and appeal was allowed with a new trial ordered (although, Im sure thats not what Khill wanted).

    If SCC denies the appeal, then a conviction is registered and mr. Khill would be going off to sentencing.

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    Last edited by NJohnson; October 14th, 2021 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJohnson View Post
    Sorry, but statement "appealed the SCC to prevent his acquittal from being appealed" doesnt make any sense. The case was already appealed at the Court of Appeal.

    The Court of Appeal overturned his aquittal. He appealed to the SCC and appeal was allowed with a new trial ordered (although, Im sure thats not what Khill wanted).

    If SCC denied the appeal, then a conviction is registered and mr. Khill would be going off to sentencing.

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    The SCC did deny Khill's appeal. Khill appealed the lower court decision to overturn his conviction and order a new trial. The SCC ratified the lower court decision. The SCC cannot overturn the acquittal and convict Khill. It can only order a new trial.
    Last edited by Badenoch; October 14th, 2021 at 02:34 PM.

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