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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Well you are right and when you use this as a wedge issue you either come out winning or losing.
    Yes.....right wrong or indifferent that is the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Well you are right and when you use this as a wedge issue you either come out winning or losing.
    The Liberal's one using it as a wedge issue... by using lies and fear mongering.... sad. Even going so far as to use the secrecy act to hide the facts... disgusting.

    Liberal breaks another promise in regards to openness, Runkle OIC secret


    Trudeau specifically say he wouldn't allow bans






    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Just show's you MONEY CANT BUY YOU LOVE . LOL
    So you admit the Liberal's just bribed voters... and you are happy about it. Quote proves true again.

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    Maybe OFAH should get Ian Runkle's input as a lawyer.
    Last edited by mosquito; October 17th, 2021 at 08:57 AM.
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    "The Liberal's one using it as a wedge issue... by using lies and fear mongering.... sad. Even going so far as to use the secrecy act to hide the facts... disgusting."

    You are being disingenuous to suggest only one party has used gun owners in wedge issues, a certain leader of a certain party used it for two full terms in office to great effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    "The Liberal's one using it as a wedge issue... by using lies and fear mongering.... sad. Even going so far as to use the secrecy act to hide the facts... disgusting."


    You are being disingenuous to suggest only one party has used gun owners in wedge issues, a certain leader of a certain party used it for two full terms in office to great effect.

    Once again fishing out one tiny item out of many and trying to create something that doesn't exist.

    Site your evidence that anyone but the NDP and Liberal's lied and fear mongered and created division about firearms. Bill Blair alone was empirically the biggest liar and hate speech generator I have seen, even exceeding the lies Justlied has put out. Your opinion and fact just never seem to coincide.


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    Last edited by mosquito; October 17th, 2021 at 10:00 AM.
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    "Your opinion and fact just never seem to coincide."

    Your pretty good at looking up old u tube video's I am sure you will be able to find one of the many hundred's posted by Stephen, talking about saving duck hunters rights. If you have trouble I will find them for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    "Your opinion and fact just never seem to coincide."

    Your pretty good at looking up old u tube video's I am sure you will be able to find one of the many hundred's posted by Stephen, talking about saving duck hunters rights. If you have trouble I will find them for you.

    Oh please find them... it is so much better to show how your "facts" and the real ones don't match with you stating what you believe clearly. As for looking them up, I just have them book marked... I have a folder of Justlied lies, Corruption, incompetence..... I know you won't believe facts or evidence and it is easiest to show there, they aren't all youtube though.
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FluffyEnvi...restricted.gif

    It took me maybe a minute or two to do the initial several posts listing all the lies and corruption on here, don't worry wasting time on ideologues is more an amusement while the coffee perks than any kind of effort.
    https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...r-the-LIbErals

    It should make you happy, it is talking about something other than the topic and realities or Bill "hate em all" Blair and his lies and "Justlied "I admire dictators and tyrants" Trudeau.
    Last edited by mosquito; October 18th, 2021 at 08:41 AM.
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    . “Wedge politics” (Wilson and Turnbull 2001) is a particularly aggressive
    version of the former, where a party highlights an issue that is very important to at least some of its
    voters (but of low importance nationally) and produces dissention within opposing parties (Giasson and
    Dumouchel 2012). Giasson and Dumouchel (2012) conclude that gun control became a wedge issue for
    the Conservatives under PM Stephen Harper. While this was arguably not the case for the Chrétien
    Liberals in the 1990s, as discussed below gun control allowed the party to distinguish itself from the
    Reform Party while appealing to Quebec voters.

    https://www.cpsa-acsp.ca/documents/c...2.Hennigar.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    . “Wedge politics” (Wilson and Turnbull 2001) is a particularly aggressive
    version of the former, where a party highlights an issue that is very important to at least some of its
    voters (but of low importance nationally) and produces dissention within opposing parties (Giasson and
    Dumouchel 2012). Giasson and Dumouchel (2012) conclude that gun control became a wedge issue for
    the Conservatives under PM Stephen Harper. While this was arguably not the case for the Chrétien
    Liberals in the 1990s, as discussed below gun control allowed the party to distinguish itself from the
    Reform Party while appealing to Quebec voters.

    https://www.cpsa-acsp.ca/documents/c...2.Hennigar.pdf
    Woo HOOO! You found something! Congratulations, you found a Brock political science prof writing something for UBC saying Harper getting rid of the firearm registry was a wedge issue, perhaps it was. I am sure that given the lies that the Liberals have come out with in regards to the registry, the ATT etc. that it's significantly less than the Conservatives. Just look at the lies and hate speech Billy "no facts, just fiction" Blair has been spewing.

    Now let's analyze what this Brock prof is actually saying in his article in regards to its integrity...

    First the sources, several articles on people wanting bans, there also is several Toronto Star and the repeated commentary that he likes the direction of gun control and the repeated Ecole Polytechnique and the fact that "Marc Lépine’s semi-automatic wasn't banned. so his prejudices do seem to be showing.

    Since he is drawing a conclusion and making statements he claims as true let's look if we can trust those prejudices vs integrity. I bring up again his repeated talking about Marc Lepine, the fact his rifle wasn't banned and his open statements he likes the direction of gun control and can be seen to bemoaning the common sense changes Harper made. The same changes we saw Trudeau saying would allow people to take restricted firearms to kids soccer games, obvious lies/fear mongering.

    So good for you, you found an article by an obvious anti-firearm prof at Brock (Lepine, obvious attitude towards Harper and bringing up of the New Zealand gun control...) but I stand corrected, you did find something. Looking at your choice it seems to confirm your anti-firearm attitude again that you keep showing while claiming too be a firearm owner.


    Now back to the topic, people use all types of weapons now and through out history from the boomerang, atlatl, bow,matchlock and all types of firearms. It is no surprise that a legally owned firearm of any type is used for hunting today. The one guy I talked to from Florida talked about using a 6" 44 mag pistol to hunt wild boar in thick cover. In the heavy stuff a short barrelled powerful handgun and multiple shots were needed to stop a charging 100+ lb boar and he had got 3 the year he talked about it. People enjoy different challenges so it is again no surprise the way they hunt is different, just look at the 243 to 45-70 and blinds, stalking, tree stands etc. for deer and that is just in firearms, then throw in muzzle loader and bow season, even the OOD has an article about old fashioned archery deer hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    That moron has pumped the kool aid down the throats of Liberal voters by the tractor trailer tank load to the point where their collective brains have completely atrophied and turned to mush. I believe Canada has turned a corner into a socialist/communist abyss beyond redemption.
    No trimmer21. It's not cool aid he pumps down the throats of Liberal voters it is FEAR. The thing is, most people have a FEAR of that which they are totally IGNORANT. The chief fear is firearms can kill you, we need to get rid of all of them to be safe. They have no other purpose except they can be used to kill people. The more efficient they are the more people they can kill. He does pump cool aid he pour fear into people. Its not about people being determined to kill people. It's about the potential of guns to kill
    people, regardless of whose hands they are in. Guns are to be FEARED. Nothing is ever said about the need for someone to pull their triggers. Nor their motives for pulling them. The reason for that, remains a mystery as the ones who pulls the triggers, more time than not, end up shooting themselves.

    You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    No trimmer21. It's not cool aid he pumps down the throats of Liberal voters it is FEAR. The thing is, most people have a FEAR of that which they are totally IGNORANT. The chief fear is firearms can kill you, we need to get rid of all of them to be safe. They have no other purpose except they can be used to kill people. The more efficient they are the more people they can kill. He does pump cool aid he pour fear into people. Its not about people being determined to kill people. It's about the potential of guns to kill
    people, regardless of whose hands they are in. Guns are to be FEARED. Nothing is ever said about the need for someone to pull their triggers. Nor their motives for pulling them. The reason for that, remains a mystery as the ones who pulls the triggers, more time than not, end up shooting themselves.

    You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
    - Gun Nut
    Well fear works the other way, 300 million firearms in the USA most purchased out of fear.

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