Bill C-71 Restrictions Coming Into Effect

[gbk]

I a looking forward to posts from our hell bent leftist members (and in an unlikely case, "othres"to)to chime it in with some "explanations"why this is enacted by our Governement-and they shed light, where this Bill will actually DO something positive for us.

[cramadog2]

I a looking forward to posts from our hell bent leftist members (and in an unlikely case, "othres"to)to chime it in with some "explanations"why this is enacted by our Governement-and they shed light, where this Bill will actually DO something positive for us.

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[trky chsr]

This true?

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In a nutshell, no. The reference number system now in place, yes, but this has nothing to do the Chief Provincial Firearms office (CFO). This is Federal and you have to contact the Canadian Firearms Centre or use the Individual Online Portal on the RCMP website to get a reference number.Also as for a gunsmith here is a line from the CSSA news briefing that is included in this thread:
Gunsmiths and Storage
Taking a firearm to a gunsmith for repair and/or modification is NOT a transfer under these regulations.

[mosquito]

In a nutshell, no. The reference number system now in place, yes, but this has nothing to do the Chief Provincial Firearms office (CFO). This is Federal and you have to contact the Canadian Firearms Centre or use the Individual Online Portal on the RCMP website to get a reference number.Also as for a gunsmith here is a line from the CSSA news briefing that is included in this thread:
Gunsmiths and Storage
Taking a firearm to a gunsmith for repair and/or modification is NOT a transfer under these regulations.

Yep, it is NOT a transfer, the business just has to record, retain and perhaps turn over to the registrar the data.

The RCMP’s Notice to Businesses of New Firearm Regulations


Effective May 18, 2022:

(1) The business must record and, for a period of 20 years beginning on the day on which the record is created, keep the following information relating to the business’ possession and disposal of all non-restricted firearms:

(a) the classification of the firearm;
(b) the date and an indication of any business activity related to the possession or the disposal of the firearm, including, if applicable, its purchase, sale, bartering, gifting, consignment, importation, exportation, repair, alteration, deactivation, destruction, manufacture, pawn broking, storage and display;
(c) the firearm’s manufacturer, make, model, type, action, gauge or calibre, barrel length and, in the case of a fixed magazine, magazine capacity;
(d) all serial numbers displayed on the firearm’s frame or receiver;
(e) the name and address of the individual or business to which the firearm was sent, or from which the firearm was received, in the course of any business activity referred to in paragraph (b) other than an activity that relates to a transfer of the firearm, if applicable; and,
(f) if the business caused the firearm to be shipped by another person, the name of the shipper or carrier, their licence number or permit number, if applicable, and the package tracking number of the shipped firearm.


(2) The business must record and, for a period of 20 years from the day on which the business transfers a non-restricted firearm, keep the following information in respect of the transfer:

(a) the reference number issued by the Registrar;

(b) the day on which the reference number was issued;

(c) the transferee’s licence number; and

(d) the firearm’s make, model and type and, if any, its serial number.

(3) The business must, unless otherwise directed by a chief firearms officer, transmit any records containing the information referred to at conditions (1) or (2) above to the Registrar of Firearms if it is determined that the business will cease to be a business.

Seems like the Gunsmith WILL have to record it, I am hoping that Ian Runkle will do a detailed look at the new firearm registry but based on the RCMP text the business in possession of a firearm has to record and retain for 20 years the data.

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[neilselden]

Hi,
Before I post, I would ask that folks NOT take the trouble to expand on whatever political views they may have. If you disagree with the new regs, then I would welcome people to debate or just to express their own views, specifically about the new requirements.

For individual to individual transfers, the portal will ask for the PAL info of the person to whom the firearm is being transferred, along with their email address. Purportedly, this is to allows for a check on the validity of the PAL. No information regarding what is being transferred, nor how many are being transferred is required. There is no requirement for an individual seller to keep any records. Previously there was no hard requirement to verify a person's PAL - the seller only needed to not have a reason to believe the PAL was not valid.

Once the seller validates the PAL info, both people will get a notice in the online portal that a transfer number has been issued. That notice includes the names and PAL #'s of both buyer and seller.

However, for business to individual sales, the seller must validate the PAL of the buyer, and keep a record PAL of the info + info about the firearm being sold (see here for details). That info must be retained by the business for 20 years. At this point, there is no requirement for this information to be transmitted anywhere, except in the case of a police request, which I believe requires that the police get a warrant. I'm not finding the exact wording on this, so if anyone has a reference as to the circumstances police could access the business records, I'd appreciate the information.

I personally support that a PAL must be verified as valid prior to selling a firearm to that person. I do NOT support that businesses keep details on the firearm specs and that they need to keep records for 20 years.

Cheers,
Neil