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June 30th, 2022, 08:25 AM
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Lack of support for EVs
With the dropping of the Federal rebate for Tesla, a cap on price, and the lack of the Ontario provincial EV rebate at all, I wonder how we are expected to meet the sales guidelines for new EVs as set forth by the same folks who are culling back the incentives.
If we could only get some economically justifiable employer incentives to install new charging stations at work, maybe then all the folks who do not have access to a 240 outlet at their residence (ie apartments and condos) would be able to buy a new EV.
National Association for Search and Rescue
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June 30th, 2022 08:25 AM
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June 30th, 2022, 09:33 AM
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Isn't the price of gas incentive enough?
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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June 30th, 2022, 10:13 AM
#3
if we all start driving EVs, how will the government pay for the road maintenance ? as they say its coming from gas tax currently.
CCFR, OFAH Member
Its all about the Journey
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June 30th, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
Ata83
if we all start driving EVs, how will the government pay for the road maintenance ? as they say its coming from gas tax currently.
Don’t worry, they will tax the power to charge them up.
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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June 30th, 2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
Isn't the price of gas incentive enough?
Not in the least. I'll keep my 8 cylinder Silverado. The province doesn't have in place the infrastructure if the majority switched to EVS especially once you go north of hwy 7. I could just imagine the rolling brown outs or black outs when everyone plugs into the grid to change their vehicles. Transformers would be blowing everywhere. Heck even on the hottest days in the summer the province tells if we can to lessen our usage of the ac so the electrical grid can keep up.
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June 30th, 2022, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Ata83
if we all start driving EVs, how will the government pay for the road maintenance ? as they say its coming from gas tax currently.
Easy when you register your vehicle every year with service ontario and you give them your odometer reading you will be taxed on kms driven to pay for road maintenance.
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June 30th, 2022, 12:00 PM
#7

Originally Posted by
Tigboy 304
Not in the least. I'll keep my 8 cylinder Silverado. The province doesn't have in place the infrastructure if the majority switched to EVS especially once you go north of hwy 7. I could just imagine the rolling brown outs or black outs when everyone plugs into the grid to change their vehicles. Transformers would be blowing everywhere. Heck even on the hottest days in the summer the province tells if we can to lessen our usage of the ac so the electrical grid can keep up.
Not interested in one in the least. At 250 mile range, not pulling a trailer, and 10 hr charge time, it would take me a week to get up moose hunting ! We would have to haul up gas and a generator to be in the bush…..
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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June 30th, 2022, 12:49 PM
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We just need to adjust our thinking to when we had no AC, no street lights (can be replaced with charging stations), and relied on horses for transport, a horse would only go so far in a day and need to rest and feed at night. Dealing with hot weather is all about acclimatization, the inconvenience of charging an EV would soon be adjusted for.
National Association for Search and Rescue
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June 30th, 2022, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
Marker
We just need to adjust our thinking to when we had no AC, no street lights (can be replaced with charging stations), and relied on horses for transport, a horse would only go so far in a day and need to rest and feed at night. Dealing with hot weather is all about acclimatization, the inconvenience of charging an EV would soon be adjusted for.
Unlikely in every respect. People are not going to give up AC and refrigeration just so people can drive EVs.
Even if they would you need to generate the electricity. Pickering is slated to close. There is no nuclear plant to replace it in the immediate future. Renewables are great but they are inconsistent and unreliable for base load. The environmental hurdles for hydro generation and nuclear are massive and would take years to overcome. The only quick way to generate power is gas, coal or oil but burning fossil fuels to power EVs doesn't make much sense.
If you want to reduce fossil fuel consumption hybrids make some sense. EVs not so much.
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June 30th, 2022, 01:50 PM
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Utopia in making,just watch the European Union approach to all of this.
They have no action plan,no time allocated to make their dream feasible,and no resources.
With the Ukrainian war/sanctions imposed by the EU-they slowly will have no natural resources to supply their need as well.
Horse before the cart.
We shall not worry though-our Government will find a way to incentivize us to stay in line with the" dream".