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    Sorry guys won’t let me add the link a lot easier on quinte fish forum to add link…YouTube look up under ccfr or just look up question period Canada on you tube
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilly View Post
    I donít think all Ruger #1s are banned. Only 3 in a calibre that is over 10,000 joules of energy.
    Page 303, no mention of caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilly View Post
    I donít think all Ruger #1s are banned. Only 3 in a calibre that is over 10,000 joules of energy.
    I think itís stuck in the and variants of. Like most weatherby

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    Quote Originally Posted by natehunter View Post
    Page 303, no mention of caliber.
    You have to read the paragraph that precedes what ever list you are on. It’s not enough to just find a model on the document and automatically assume it’s doomed.

    That said, I am not in favour of this move. I think it’s ridiculous. I’m just trying to keep it real because I have some people I know totally losing their minds due to inaccurate information.

    IMO, this is a big “false flag” by Liberal back-room strategist types. They want to casually change the channel from the ESA inquiry and insert one of their go-to wedge issues into the followers. They want to seem reasonable and make gun owners and CPC people look like looney MAGA people. The CPC party needs to play it cool and just stick to facts and data. PM Trudeau is already getting sound bites on TV claiming the CPC “is in the pocket of The US gun lobby”. We know that is BS, but the average numpty Canadian thinks it’s true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilly View Post
    You have to read the paragraph that precedes what ever list you are on. It’s not enough to just find a model on the document and automatically assume it’s doomed.

    That said, I am not in favour of this move. I think it’s ridiculous. I’m just trying to keep it real because I have some people I know totally losing their minds due to inaccurate information.

    IMO, this is a big “false flag” by Liberal back-room strategist types. They want to casually change the channel from the ESA inquiry and insert one of their go-to wedge issues into the followers. They want to seem reasonable and make gun owners and CPC people look like looney MAGA people. The CPC party needs to play it cool and just stick to facts and data. PM Trudeau is already getting sound bites on TV claiming the CPC “is in the pocket of The US gun lobby”. We know that is BS, but the average numpty Canadian thinks it’s true.
    I agree with your last paragraph. I also read the paragraph in the bill that precedes it. The ruger no 1 will be banned by name. This is not inaccurate information. Even if you were remotely correct, would you walk into the bush with a number 1 under 10k joules knowing some know it all cop could put you through the wringer. Thousands in court cost’s because our extremely incompetent government is “making our streets safer”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js4fn View Post
    I think it’s stuck in the and variants of. Like most weatherby
    They list the models of firearms that produce a caliber that can exceed the 10,000 joule energy restriction, without listing the actual caliber. All the details in the bill regarding Weatherby simply state "Weatherby Mark V". There are about 10 or so calibers available in Weatherby Mark V, but only one that I've seen that would be illegal based on the energy it produces. So why isn't it listed specifically by caliber, instead of being ambiguous and only stating a model name? Delmer
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    Quote Originally Posted by delmer View Post
    They list the models of firearms that produce a caliber that can exceed the 10,000 joule energy restriction, without listing the actual caliber. All the details in the bill regarding Weatherby simply state "Weatherby Mark V". There are about 10 or so calibers available in Weatherby Mark V, but only one that I've seen that would be illegal based on the energy it produces. So why isn't it listed specifically by caliber, instead of being ambiguous and only stating a model name?
    The legislation is very poorly written. There is no need to list the individual models of rifles firing rounds over 10,000 joules and even if that were their intent they missed several. Westley Richards and Stephen Grant rifles are listed but none from Holland & Holland or Purdey both of which produced rifles in chamberings that exceed the limit.

    While they probably mean only the listed rifles in the specific chamberings I wouldn't depend on some copper in Northern Ontario knowing the difference.

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    I dont want to derail this thread - but perhaps if more provinces put pressure on the Feds for their blatant over reach of power (on many fronts, they'll start to back down on these ridiculous OIC's and gun bans theyre pushing on us peasants)

    Alberta Sovereignty within a United Canada Act
    Bill 1 has been introduced to allow Alberta to fight harmful federal laws and defend the constitutional federal-provincial division of powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokes View Post
    I dont want to derail this thread - but perhaps if more provinces put pressure on the Feds for their blatant over reach of power (on many fronts, they'll start to back down on these ridiculous OIC's and gun bans theyre pushing on us peasants)

    Alberta Sovereignty within a United Canada Act
    Bill 1 has been introduced to allow Alberta to fight harmful federal laws and defend the constitutional federal-provincial division of powers.
    Danielle Smith is exactly what Canadian Politics needs right now
    we just need someone to step up in Ontario because Doug Ford isn't that guy (wolf in sheep's clothing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanE View Post
    Danielle Smith is exactly what Canadian Politics needs right now
    we just need someone to step up in Ontario because Doug Ford isn't that guy (wolf in sheep's clothing)
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