The Taboo Subject. Loosing deer after the shot.

[genec]

5 hour wait is way excessive, considering that after the deer is dead for 30 minutes internal body heat will start to cause bacterial breakdown in the meat.
Arrow/bolt Shot placement is critical to speedy recovery.
As to mechanicals, I tried one (wont name brand, but a very popular one) 6 years ago, and lost a young 6-point buck with a 20 yd standing broadside thru shot with my crossbow. Searched the bush for 3 hours (family farm bush I had hunted for 40 years), finally found deer 3 weeks later in a spot I had walked thru 3 times while repeatedly searching. Threw out all those mechanicals!! That was the only deer I ever lost.
When Excalibur came out with their mechanical I tried their 100 grain heads - love them - havent had a deer go more than 25 yards hit with them.

[sabmgb]

My almost 3 year old lab has found my last 3 deer. She is the truck almost every time I go out, 1st deer she was 10 months old. I shoot I pack up, go to truck, have coffee and cigar, play with her for a bit, unload the quad and head back, this takes almost an hour. 1st deer there was no blood trail, and to many leaf's for me to track, she picked up the scent and found blood 50yds in and deer another 40yds. 2nd was a pretty easy track only about 40yd. the 3rd she wasn't with me, it went almost 400yds in open field, slug placement pour. I took her back the next day showed her about where the deer was standing, so 16 hours later with rain most of the night. She picked it up and tracked right to the gut pile. I think most dogs will take to a blood trail or just the scent it they have any hunting instincts. I'd ask a friend to come with me and bring his dog if you don't have one and can't find your deer. It can't hurt and you might have to pay up with a roast.

[DanE]

My almost 3 year old lab has found my last 3 deer. She is the truck almost every time I go out, 1st deer she was 10 months old. I shoot I pack up, go to truck, have coffee and cigar, play with her for a bit, unload the quad and head back, this takes almost an hour. 1st deer there was no blood trail, and to many leaf's for me to track, she picked up the scent and found blood 50yds in and deer another 40yds. 2nd was a pretty easy track only about 40yd. the 3rd she wasn't with me, it went almost 400yds in open field, slug placement pour. I took her back the next day showed her about where the deer was standing, so 16 hours later with rain most of the night. She picked it up and tracked right to the gut pile. I think most dogs will take to a blood trail or just the scent it they have any hunting instincts. I'd ask a friend to come with me and bring his dog if you don't have one and can't find your deer. It can't hurt and you might have to pay up with a roast.

my older lab has found 13 deer now. the younger lab hasn't had the opportunity to do it solo yet but I'm sure it won't be an issue. this is with no formal training just allowing them to eat chunks of liver and chew on bones and legs
it's amazing how instinctual they can be

[punkrockerpj]

ive lost two deer so far. one i was a complete rookie, hunting solo and gut shot. had no idea what i was doing, backed out, and went the next day, no blood but i know i hit the poor guy.
second was a big ole buck who im sure lived. hit high and back into no mans land. i think he was seen a few weeks later strutting his stuff.
thankfully ive missed more than ive hit and lost.
I think if it wasnt for good tracking sills, we might have lost the deer i shot this year too. he went a good distance from where he was hit and there wasn't a ton of blood. gut shot with a slug and died within 15 minutes.

our group lost a deer this season. blood trail and everything and im pretty sure we looked too soon (into the night) and bumped it.
looking back, i think waiting it out at least a couple hours before looking, and getting a good dog on the trail would have helped with recovery.

[tracer]

I lost a doe one year hunting with the crossbow. I waited 1 hr before taking up the blood trail that was bright red. The blood trail ended(50 yrds) where the deer bedded down under some low hanging branches. Followed the trail beyond that point with no blood trace. So I smized that my shot was low, hitting the deer in the leg muscle with Wasp fixed broadhead. I also remembered that I did not stay fixed on the target after pulling the trigger. The deer was later ranged at 26 yards and I used the 20 yard pin.

[LowbanksArcher]

Great post Marker. There's so many factors involved in this.

Broadhead - has to match the setup. Mechanicals with low poundage compounds, not great. Smaller fixed heads are better when you hit that scapula, but not as great for blood trails. Example, black bears. Bear blood trails typically suck, and i'd prefer a big mechanical(or hybrid head) if the bow setup has enough energy for it.

Bow - A scoped xbow will always make it easier to make an accurate shot, especially in those low light times. Guys using archery equipment will typically have a bit harder of a time hitting exactly where they want in the heat of the moment.

Recovery - If you don't see the animal go down, and you feel that there's any chance at all that you may have hit behind the lungs, yes, i'd agree with 4-5 hours. Further back yet, longer. When in doubt, back out. If you follow any social media hunting groups you'll notice this common trend every season. Bumped a bedded deer by starting tracking too early, and lost the blood trail. Followed by, "does anyone have a blood trailing dog in wmuX".
Knowing what to do after the shot is so incredibly important in bow hunting and it's not something you can really learn in a hunters ed course. It just takes experience. And good mentor goes a long way.

Hunter discipline/patience - can you pass up that questionable shot on that big buck you really really want? A lot of us unfortunately have a mentality of, "i wont take that shot, unless it's a really big buck". Low percentage shots = low percentage recoveries

Personally, i've had 1 non-recovery and it was in the first couple seasons. Lack of experience led to a quartering-to shot that hit the shoulder with no penetration (70#compound bow + mechanical). A non-lethal hit on a buck that I saw again the following season. I will mention that there are 2 bears that i've killed that I would likely not have found if I were hunting solo. A team blood trailing effort and a never-give-up attitude can make the difference in finding that 1 drop of blood that entirely changes the direction of the track.

[tom gobble]

I think taking the time to practice shooting ( bow or gun) and being confident in your gear as well as not rushing a shot is the most important thing in hunting any game. After that you wish that you have done everything in your power to make an ethical and realistic shot. You will still lose game and it has happen to the best of us regardless if you using mechanical or fixed broad heads.

[outdoorlife]

2 lessons learned through experience (experience is what you get when you do t get what you want);

1. In bow hunting sometimes it just doesn’t work out after a seemingly decent shot. These incidents are hard pills to swallow but an unfortunate part of the game.

2. Choosing to not bow hunt in the evenings eliminates a lot of problems


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