How to move a high end gun safe?

[Big Tuna]

Planning a major house reno later in 2023 and starting to plan.
Got the idea will be a good to to get a high end gun safe. Something i always wanted.
Will have a closet built around it.

The high end gun safes are between 550 to 900 pounds.
Luckily there is only one step between the garage and level it will be placed on.
Delivery from Cabela's is estimated at about $300. Do you know if they will place on driveway, garage or in house for that price?
Is it strictly muscle power to carry through the one door, combined with one step?
How many guys will it take to carry a 850 pounds safe through a door?

Having a pickup and a trailer i know the curse of helping many move. The pain of carrying certain furniture and appliances through doors.
Having trouble visualizing moving a safe as i am brainstorming the reno.
Especially with no handles on corners to hold lifting and carrying. Lifting heavy weight with no finger holds.

[fishfood]

A good dolly and a few straps around it, a few guys should be able to move it around pretty easily.

I just helped moved an older video game 750 pounds with 3 guys up from a basement up the stairs and out side.

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[greatwhite]

At 300 for delivery I would hope they will bring it inside and place it where you want, 800 pounds is around what a Yamaha Kodiak weighs.

[gbk]

How this works with the floor load bearing capability-i was always wondering that?
Small area, yet 1000 lbs load safe with guns included!

You can try to rent or buy(Princess Auto has nice ones) a dolly(as mentioned earlier)then put a smooth carpet down,and dolly it in on the carpet or sheet of plywood(to save your floor).We do that with huge machines all the time.



However-lifting it over the door sill or on/off the dolly is still a manual job.
Lever can help there though........

Good luck and send us some pictures.

[fishfood]

At 300 for delivery I would hope they will bring it inside and place it where you want, 800 pounds is around what a Yamaha Kodiak weighs.

300 for delivery I think is pretty normal depending on how far it's being delivered from .
Some would only be to the door others will bring it in closer to the location all depends on the contract.

2 guys 1 hour drive to get there at say 20 bucks an hour is 80 bucks probably a diesel at 2 bucks a liter another 80 bucks in fuel. Half that 300 is just expenses to get it there.
If they have 3 guys add in another 40 bucks. Insurance and truck expenses are also added in.

We did a 1200 delivery fee this year but that's a 2 way trip delivery and pick up. 3 guys 3 hour one way. That's 12 hours of pay and fuel just to get there and back. And that was friends deal lol.

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[trimmer21]

Planning a major house reno later in 2023 and starting to plan.
Got the idea will be a good to to get a high end gun safe. Something i always wanted.
Will have a closet built around it.

The high end gun safes are between 550 to 900 pounds.
Luckily there is only one step between the garage and level it will be placed on.
Delivery from Cabela's is estimated at about $300. Do you know if they will place on driveway, garage or in house for that price?
Is it strictly muscle power to carry through the one door, combined with one step?
How many guys will it take to carry a 850 pounds safe through a door?

Having a pickup and a trailer i know the curse of helping many move. The pain of carrying certain furniture and appliances through doors.
Having trouble visualizing moving a safe as i am brainstorming the reno.
Especially with no handles on corners to hold lifting and carrying. Lifting heavy weight with no finger holds.

When dealing with that much weight,it would be very wise to enlist the help of a residential architect to measure weight bearing capacity of the floor. I was "recruited" to help a buddy move one into his house. The minute we set the safe down where he wanted it,we heard the floor start to creek. Two days later,we removed the safe,but,the damage was done. He had to replace 8-2X10 floor beams and sub floor. His insurance company wouldn't cover the repair. It cost him a small fortune.

[johnjyb]

If the weight can be spread over a larger area then the footprint of the safe it would help as well. A full waterbed can weigh in excess of 1000lb and you never hear of them falling through a floor or cracking joists.
John

[alfoldivandor]

Good point GBK

and just an idea with forklift cut out the outside wall and for sure make a new foundation for the gun cabinet

But there is one more solution just sell all your guns keep one ...

How this works with the floor load bearing capability-i was always wondering that?
Small area, yet 1000 lbs load-safe with guns included!

You can try to rent or buy(Princess Auto has nice ones) a dolly(as mentioned earlier)then put a smooth carpet down,and dolly it in on the carpet or sheet of plywood(to save your floor).We do that with huge machines all the time.



However-lifting it over the door sill or on/off the dolly is still a manual job.
Lever can help there though........

Good luck and send us some pictures.

[Badenoch]

Are you sold on the safe from Cabela's? I bought a Hunter Gun Vault from Canadian Safe in Hamilton. It was a few years ago but, at the time, they delivered the safe into my gun room and lagged it to the concrete floor for what I considered to be a reasonable cost. I do not know if they still do this but it would be worth giving them a call to see if they do installations.

https://canadiansafe.ca/product/hunter-gun-vaults/
https://www.facebook.com/huntergunvaults

If you are determined to do it yourself remove the door from the safe. Without the door the safe is much lighter and easier to move and then reinstall it once you have the safe situated to your liking.

[Big Tuna]

Are you sold on the safe from Cabela's? I bought a Hunter Gun Vault from Canadian Safe in Hamilton. It was a few years ago but, at the time, they delivered the safe into my gun room and lagged it to the concrete floor for what I considered to be a reasonable cost. I do not know if they still do this but it would be worth giving them a call to see if they do installations.

https://canadiansafe.ca/product/hunter-gun-vaults/
https://www.facebook.com/huntergunvaults

If you are determined to do it yourself remove the door from the safe. Without the door the safe is much lighter and easier to move and then reinstall it once you have the safe situated to your liking.

Thanks for sharing extra places to shop.
I am still in the design, planning and nearing final quote stage.
The safe will be on the lower level which is a cement floor.
House is raised bungalow, so outside ground average, garage and lowest level of house are same level so weight bearing won't be an issue in this case.
Would likely plan to buy before reno starts so floor damage isn't a concern. It can stay in the middle of room until time to push into final resting place.
Will share later in year final story.
If not taken inside house by delivery guys then i am thinking of borrowing from work a hand pump forklift and make a custom platform by using 2 layers of 3/4 inch plywood. plus edging on the plywood underside so don't slide off.
Then lots of muscle.
Hand pump fork lift will help move safe and lift the 8 inch for the one step so it can be pushed forward and inside.

Firstly back to step one. Select a safe to buy so i can start working with specifics.
Step two will be keeping a roll of extra $20 bills in my pocket when delivery comes incase i need to bribe the delivery guys to carry it the extra 15 feet.