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July 1st, 2023, 01:47 PM
#41

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Could be empty words but as a mayor they shouldn't be . Since they weren't even asked shows the lack of concern. When they spoke out and said they would help they were told it wasn't necessary. Why isn't it necessary even if there was a team available to help.
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when you're the last kid to be picked(in this case not even asked) to play you got to figure your contribution means little to the overall game plan.
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July 1st, 2023 01:47 PM
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July 1st, 2023, 03:22 PM
#42

Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
when you're the last kid to be picked(in this case not even asked) to play you got to figure your contribution means little to the overall game plan.
Oh I know the game plan lol.
Keep them going and blame climate change and make us pay more lol.
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Last edited by fishfood; July 1st, 2023 at 03:25 PM.
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July 1st, 2023, 08:55 PM
#43
I spent 11 years fighting forest fires and here are some facts:
To fight forest fires you must be trained and certified and pass a nationally certified fitness test. Structural fires and forest fires are very different and require separate skills. Foreign fire fighters must meet international standards and are provided with additional training and orientation upon arrival. National and international agreements are in place to share manpower and equipment. Ontario often sends personnel and equipment across Canada and to the USA. This spring crews went to Alberta.
There was a time when able-bodied men in Ontario could be conscripted into fighting fires but that is no longer the case.
It’s my understanding that Ontario has a shortfall of about 40 crews this year. Young people have other things to do I suppose, but I heard a story that some kids don’t want to do it because there’s no wifi in the woods.
As far as the city fire fighters wanting to help, Quebec didn’t have the resources to train and certify them due to sudden emergency. After this season ends, I can foresee a push to train interested people.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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July 2nd, 2023, 05:24 AM
#44
Who’s lighting the fires?
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July 2nd, 2023, 07:22 AM
#45

Originally Posted by
glen
Who’s lighting the fires?
Which fires/where? Since an open fire ban has been in place in Ontario for several weeks, most fires have been lightning caused.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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July 2nd, 2023, 07:35 AM
#46

Originally Posted by
Sam Menard
I spent 11 years fighting forest fires and here are some facts:
To fight forest fires you must be trained and certified and pass a nationally certified fitness test. Structural fires and forest fires are very different and require separate skills. Foreign fire fighters must meet international standards and are provided with additional training and orientation upon arrival. National and international agreements are in place to share manpower and equipment. Ontario often sends personnel and equipment across Canada and to the USA. This spring crews went to Alberta.
There was a time when able-bodied men in Ontario could be conscripted into fighting fires but that is no longer the case.
It’s my understanding that Ontario has a shortfall of about 40 crews this year. Young people have other things to do I suppose, but I heard a story that some kids don’t want to do it because there’s no wifi in the woods.
As far as the city fire fighters wanting to help, Quebec didn’t have the resources to train and certify them due to sudden emergency. After this season ends, I can foresee a push to train interested people.
So its not a cabal conspiracy?
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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July 2nd, 2023, 08:17 AM
#47
lightning or God.
Not all fires are even put out, some are allowed to just eventually burn out they are to far from Humans

Originally Posted by
glen
Who’s lighting the fires?
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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July 2nd, 2023, 11:24 AM
#48

Originally Posted by
Sam Menard
I spent 11 years fighting forest fires and here are some facts:
To fight forest fires you must be trained and certified and pass a nationally certified fitness test. Structural fires and forest fires are very different and require separate skills. Foreign fire fighters must meet international standards and are provided with additional training and orientation upon arrival. National and international agreements are in place to share manpower and equipment. Ontario often sends personnel and equipment across Canada and to the USA. This spring crews went to Alberta.
There was a time when able-bodied men in Ontario could be conscripted into fighting fires but that is no longer the case.
It’s my understanding that Ontario has a shortfall of about 40 crews this year. Young people have other things to do I suppose, but I heard a story that some kids don’t want to do it because there’s no wifi in the woods.
As far as the city fire fighters wanting to help, Quebec didn’t have the resources to train and certify them due to sudden emergency. After this season ends, I can foresee a push to train interested people.
Thanks for your expertise.
When they mention they have able body's im sure they would be qualified. It wouldn't be the first time that Quebec sent a team to battle Forrest fires. Is that team on the ground? Or did foreign workers come before their own teams with experience?
This retired guy had a team together but is not needed he and they have the experience, are still able and don't even want the Frontline. But it would be boots on the ground. We took retired nurses back in an emergency. And now those fighting the fires are loosing thier own homes in these areas they wanted to help.
https://www.saltwire.com/nova-scotia...ian-100862338/
https://youtu.be/G5o28tULm1k
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July 2nd, 2023, 12:44 PM
#49

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Thanks for your expertise.
When they mention they have able body's im sure they would be qualified. It wouldn't be the first time that Quebec sent a team to battle Forrest fires. Is that team on the ground? Or did foreign workers come before their own teams with experience?
This retired guy had a team together but is not needed he and they have the experience, are still able and don't even want the Frontline. But it would be boots on the ground. We took retired nurses back in an emergency. And now those fighting the fires are loosing thier own homes in these areas they wanted to help.
https://www.saltwire.com/nova-scotia...ian-100862338/
https://youtu.be/G5o28tULm1k
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How would they help? "operations, logistics, planning and finance." so no real fire suppression .....no thanks got enough tech support.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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July 2nd, 2023, 02:52 PM
#50

Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
How would they help? "operations, logistics, planning and finance." so no real fire suppression .....no thanks got enough tech support.
Exactly. If they can't pass the PreFit, which includes running laps with a 70 pound hose pack on their back, we don't need them. Enough white helmets already.
Last edited by TroutSlayer; July 2nd, 2023 at 04:23 PM.
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