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    Just wondering if the MNR are screwing up again with the number of calf tags they are issuing this season. I had a look at the area I am hunting WMU60 which is probably the most hunted in Ontario.
    Having gotten a tag and now learning what a few other folks have got I looked at this MNR chart for the numbers. So I find the results for the second chance allocation for WMU all/hunts for calf they
    could give out 113 tags, which to me seem a pretty big number for a central Ontario region. But when I looked at the other WMU,s also pretty high numbers 4,798 calf tags available for the second draw.

    Did they really do the research and fly over,s to come up with these numbers, do you think they are high for calf,s.

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    I’ve been shaking my head for years on mnr’s provincial moose policy. Makes zero sense to me that ANY harvest of cows and calves is warranted when the population has crashed. The existing regs are a moose cull, rather than a managed hunt in my opinion. Imagine being a beef farmer who wants to build their herd size over time, then you kill 25% of your prime breeder cows, and 30%? of your calf crop. Reminds me of Gump’s line about “stupid does”

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    I think the government is starting to feel the pinch from the vast reduction in Moose license sales. I'm told that revenue is down 80% despite the $15 application fee. Notice that calf tag allocation is in WMU's where calf recruitment is very low? It's easy to issue lots of tags where there's hardly any Moose. Xomething doesn't pass the smell test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    I think the government is starting to feel the pinch from the vast reduction in Moose license sales. I'm told that revenue is down 80% despite the $15 application fee. Notice that calf tag allocation is in WMU's where calf recruitment is very low? It's easy to issue lots of tags where there's hardly any Moose. Xomething doesn't pass the smell test.
    I think I had to pay that $15.00 application fee, then three days ago I had to buy a moose license $39.88 then I had to buy a Calf Tag $33.90 so the total would be $88.78

    I think back in the old system a Moose tag was about $45.00 so I don't think their revenus are that much down?

    Calfs are pretty hard to hunt as mothers are real sneaky in their movements, but hunters are pretty good at figuring out how to get them and with the lack of opportunity for adults any calf seen is dropped if they have the tags.

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    The solution to saving the Ontario moose would be to ban Cow and calf harvest for as long as it takes to let the population re-bound.

    But that would be unpopular with many so we will just keep doing the same old same old and sooner or later all the moose will be gone forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    I think the government is starting to feel the pinch from the vast reduction in Moose license sales. I'm told that revenue is down 80% despite the $15 application fee. Notice that calf tag allocation is in WMU's where calf recruitment is very low? It's easy to issue lots of tags where there's hardly any Moose. Xomething doesn't pass the smell test.
    I think your right on with that observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter View Post
    The solution to saving the Ontario moose would be to ban Cow and calf harvest for as long as it takes to let the population re-bound.

    But that would be unpopular with many so we will just keep doing the same old same old and sooner or later all the moose will be gone forever.
    Agree.

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    Some of this just doesn't make sense. 55B 10 tags total.
    Seven tags are calf or cow/calf.
    Two gun bull tags, but only one archery bull tag.
    It would be real interesting to have someone from MNRF explain the logic that went into that allocation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werner.reiche View Post
    Agree.
    Agreed but people cry now that they can’t get tags so can you imagine the crying

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    My guess is because of the low survival rate with calves. But tag numbers seem high. I also donít pretend to know what goes through the minds of the MNRF anymore.


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    Last edited by Gregger17; August 5th, 2023 at 08:03 AM.

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