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September 26th, 2023, 07:26 AM
#11
My dad bought me a new 870 30" plain barrel wing master 47 years ago and it still looks awesome in my gun cabinet. Used it for ducks, rabbits, yotes and a ton of trap shooting. It still works like the day I got it
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September 26th, 2023 07:26 AM
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September 26th, 2023, 08:15 AM
#12
Has too much time on their hands
As I recall, back when the Rem 7400 and Browning BLR rifles were $300.00 plus tax, new, (about 1980) the 870 Wingmaster was just a few dollars more, about $350-375.
The price of the new one seems to be in line with gun price increases in general. I'm happy with my old Mossberg 500, but if I wanted to go get myself a nice new pump, maybe a bit fancy, I wouldn't consider that price too far out of line.
I do note, however, that the Browning BPS Field model is only about $1000.00 and is as good a shotgun, in my opinion. However, I'd want to see those two side by side to compare.
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September 26th, 2023, 02:45 PM
#13
i have the 870 supermag in wooden stock.
bought it maybe 3 or 4 years ago? got the combo with the rifled barrel ended up paying around 800? 850ish?
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September 27th, 2023, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Ruger owns the Remington brand now and is turning out (as always) pretty nice guns. Pricey though - but that is the cost of quality and following Marlin and Remington's path through bankruptcies, producing and selling inexpensive guns is not a good business model. Winchester turned the corner twenty years ago when it was bought by FN and manufacturing transferred to Miroku in Japan. The new reality is a decent lever rifle now runs about 1500 bucks, and a decent autoloading shotgun about the same.
I have handled the new Winchester 94 - and they are slicker than any of the pre-64 or post-80s model.
I haven't got my hands on a Ruger/Marlin lever - but I'd expect the same from those.
I do have marlin XLRs a .444 JM stamped and a .45-70 Marlington - and the difference is night and day - including basic quality problems like the front sight falling off and the rear sight breaking on the Marlington.
Ruger bought only the Marlin brand from Remington. Remington-branded shotguns and rifles are being made by RemArms, a holding company of Roundhill Group LLC. Roundhill is an investment company that brought Remington out of bankruptcy in 2020.
https://sgbonline.com/roundhill-grou...gton-firearms/
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September 27th, 2023, 11:47 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Ruger bought only the Marlin brand from Remington. Remington-branded shotguns and rifles are being made by RemArms, a holding company of Roundhill Group LLC. Roundhill is an investment company that brought Remington out of bankruptcy in 2020.
https://sgbonline.com/roundhill-grou...gton-firearms/
Thanks for the correction. I had thought Ruger bought both.
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September 27th, 2023, 02:59 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
Kilo Charlie
As I recall, back when the Rem 7400 and Browning BLR rifles were $300.00 plus tax, new, (about 1980) the 870 Wingmaster was just a few dollars more, about $350-375.
The price of the new one seems to be in line with gun price increases in general. I'm happy with my old Mossberg 500, but if I wanted to go get myself a nice new pump, maybe a bit fancy, I wouldn't consider that price too far out of line.
I do note, however, that the Browning BPS Field model is only about $1000.00 and is as good a shotgun, in my opinion. However, I'd want to see those two side by side to compare.
I'll bet the Browning is heavier!
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September 27th, 2023, 03:56 PM
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I don’t know what all the hype is about the 870. Like most, I’ve owned a bunch of different pump brands ( rem, winchester, browning, mossberg) and to be honest, the smoothest, fastest loading and most slick of the bunch was a winchester 1200 i bought at canadian tire in my 20’s. I think it was also the most inexpensive. The thing didn’t jam, hit where it was pointed and killed ducks and geese slicker than snot on a door knob. Thats one i sold and regret. Like kilo said above, I’ve stuck with the bps lately, and after working the chamber over with a brass scrubber on a drill i’ve finally got it where it doesn’t jam anymore. You shouldnt have to do that on a new gun.
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September 28th, 2023, 11:15 AM
#18

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Thanks for the correction. I had thought Ruger bought both.
There was some speculation at the time they would buy both but ultimately chose only to buy Marlin which makes sense considering their product line and their complete lack of experience with pump and semi-automatic shotguns.
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October 12th, 2023, 09:33 AM
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My dad gave me a used wingmaster for my birthday 50 years ago. It's still my go to shotgun.
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October 12th, 2023, 01:14 PM
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I still have my Wingmaster 870 Mag 12ga-28" vent rib I bought in '88. It works flawlessly. I'm glad to see Remington is making a full recovery.
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