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    Our government's saying they are doing the responsibe solution but we are fighting violence with violence. They say they are doing what they can while fully supporting the arm's flow into Israel.

    Most probably don't know but the usa and Isreal have a deal that the usa is to keep their supply stocked . They will even be building a manufacturing company to produce and supply the Israeli military. The stocked supply is the usa but Isreal has full rights to the use. It is the job of the usa to keep its reserves stocked.

    This isn't the way to end it. Nobody is talking about 2022 and 2023 being the deadliest years in almost 2 decades. Israelis killing Palestine children in the Westbank. Let's not fix those problems. Hey let's not even mention it and wonder why they dislike us.

    Another bummer is we are all paying for it. Fully funded by the people

    Who's going to back down first? Natos second largest military seems to stand with the people of Palestine. Remember the so called bad guys only want an end to this. Stop the flow of arms. Simple if not I guess whatever happens happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ata83 View Post
    really I agree with u. same with natives, we took over Canada, they should deal with it and leave, theres all the snow up there in north pole ... why are they not there and insist on having their land ....

    just to help, palestine includes Gaza strip and west bank ...
    I can see that ancient history isn't your forte. The west bank and the Gaza strip are not, nor have they ever been, Palestine. The Jewish homeland was always exactly where it is,today,from the time of King David and his son,King Solomon.....about 2400 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Nonsense? Hardly! Show me any other nation on this Earth that would tolerate missiles launched into their country and an armed massacre of unarmed civilians by a terrorist army. For that matter,show me where "Palestine" is. What is their currency? Who is their leadership? Where is their seat of government? The facts are there aren't any. They have never been recognized as a nation by the UN (not that that's any big deal). People calling themselves Palestinians are unorganized tribal Bedouin Arabs who have been aimlessly wandering the desert for centuries. After an attempted coup,they were kicked out of Kuwait,not allowed to stay in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon or Jordan and refused entry to Egypt.
    Only by the good graces of Israel were they allowed to occupy the Gaza strip after the last war where they fomented an army of terrorists all the while being supported by the citizens of Gaza making them terrorist accomplices. That's the thanks they were given. Other than feeling great angst for children being used as human shields who have no choice,I have not one shred of remorse for their demise. They elected Hamas terrorists,covered for them and supported them,so,tough bananas. The Bible prophecy is real....." As ye sow,so shall ye reap". As for the West Bank territory ,that IS nonsense. That should be taken over by Israel completely,too,and put to rest the entire debacle.
    So are they prisoners? Who feeds them who's supports them. Are they called terrorists for fighting with nothing. Are they run by humanitarian aid . ?

    Or did a government mess up and now they have a bigger issue?

    Isreal just want hem to move to the desert in Egypt. How will that help

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    So are they prisoners? Who feeds them who's supports them. Are they called terrorists for fighting with nothing. Are they run by humanitarian aid . ?

    Or did a government mess up and now they have a bigger issue?

    Isreal just want hem to move to the desert in Egypt. How will that help

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    They're far from prisoners. They're being fed by international aid that's being confiscated by Hamas fighters which shows how much they regard their own. They're certainly not "fighting with nothing" being armed and supplied with missiles nd ammo by the Iranians through Hezbollah. The only government that messed up was Israel by trusting them to run Gaza unimpeded since 2007. That worked out well,didn't it? The Arabs turned it into a radical Islamic armed camp with only one purpose....to kill the Jews and anyone else who got in the way. Israel and the US tried to convince Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon to accept them as refugees. Why do you think they refused? That speaks volumes.

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    Thousands have rallied in Yemen since the Americans Hitt many targets. Thousands chanting death to America.

    https://youtu.be/3PDBTSQ62_I?si=PQKcmt4BIqdEVc6X

    Isreal is being hit from 7 fronts and had 6 of those fronts defended a few weeks ago. Seems they have created many enemies over the years.

    What is the bigger picture could it be about Iran? Russia, India ? Russia is fighting an economic war in Africa without bullets. Iran is now part of the brics as is India. A war over money can lead to the same as any other. Do the Americans feel threatened over the economic decline of the dollars? India Russia and Iran plus many more partners have started to abandoned it. More and more deals everyday are being taken away from the American dollars. That alone will weaken the the Americans and would put them on a defensive line.

    Or a bigger picture would be to keep us distracted .

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    They're far from prisoners. They're being fed by international aid that's being confiscated by Hamas fighters which shows how much they regard their own. They're certainly not "fighting with nothing" being armed and supplied with missiles nd ammo by the Iranians through Hezbollah. The only government that messed up was Israel by trusting them to run Gaza unimpeded since 2007. That worked out well,didn't it? The Arabs turned it into a radical Islamic armed camp with only one purpose....to kill the Jews and anyone else who got in the way. Israel and the US tried to convince Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon to accept them as refugees. Why do you think they refused? That speaks volumes.
    Didn't the people vote for hamas?

    Yeah everything they have has been smuggled in over the years. I kind of think of it or described it as prison riot lol. Most have never been further than 24 km in any direction. Most will never leave or even be given the chance . The people chant free Palestine what would they need to be free from . Being fed by international aid is like being fed by a prison paid by the taxpayers. They are both dependent on others so what's the difference?

    Pretty balsy to be dropping grenades on enemy tanks with their bare hands. But in the end that is what they have only themselves.

    I'm not defending any side I'd rather be on the less conflict side and the truth. Just like Russia and Ukraine I want the truth. Not propaganda. It was a lie that Russia blew up their bridge. It was lie that Russia blew up its own pipeline into Germany. It was lie that Russia blew up a school, ok that part wasn't a lie yes a school was hit but it wasfully occupied by the military. They were stupid enough to post the pictures and within the hours was struck by the enemy causing Russia to blow up the school. . They lied about the pizza shop yes again it was military personnel.

    They lied about Russia taking all of Ukraine that was never the plan when did they say that? . They basically have what they wanted and it was the people and mayor's of Ukraine who asked for Russian help. How many people died in Ukraine in the years leading up the invasion? Thousands. Zelensky ordered a drone attack on its own people prior to the invasion. It is Russias boarders not ours it was their people being killed in Ukraine proir to the invasion.

    Western propaganda is what we get. It sickens me and that is part of the reason I lost all faith in our mainstream media.

    Instead I turn to alternatives like independent media with their own sources on the ground.

    Guess that's why it's the discussion at the world economic forum in davos next week.

    "Rebuilding trust " yes that's a panel of discussion as they know they messed up. They wouldn't need to rebuild the trust if the truth was spoken.






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    I think far too many people are brainwashed by the media and we should all know who owns the vast majority of the media is owned and directed by.

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    Not to mention they all say the scripts lol.
    https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI?si=6vc2a1_PQ5SZ3362

    https://youtu.be/YkcaeaD45MY?si=O-WgSuBrcNjNmNGX

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    https://youtu.be/210bHotqzFM?si=cO1wKvIE8mpE4-2I

    Even our medical experts were told what to say. Run from a script. From their own words that they just say what was written for them. Pretty sad when our experts and professionals are told what to say.

    https://youtu.be/-TU1-SxT2Fc?si=W7dTQXsLaM1iZXUP

    Every main stream in Canada is owned and funded by the same groups with the same narratives with the same agenda. But its their business's so they can bring who and what they want to the table.. They will tell us what they want to.

    I still listen to them and watch them as I will never just listen to one side of the story.

    They don't tell us about the large protesters in Germany as their economy has collapsed and they push for more war and farming regulations. But they will tell you 2 people were shot in Paris.

    What they tell you is Russia will loose as the reality is everyone else's economy falls. They tell us he's on his death bed while he recently just spoke for hour's at economic events without a script lol.

    It seems for some reason we always need an enemy. Even our political parties right vs left . The right is bad while the left is good. Far right people have have extremists views when in reality it's the left who are usually so destructive.

    Funny how that works but if they keep us divided, it can do Funny things. I was told I should die because I wasn't getting vaccinated to bad they couldn't of felt the same way when 85% just refused it.

    We should all be working together not divided that's how conspiracies or aka spoiler alerts start between the divided and what's being said by mainstream. They make it out that independent media is fake news. But is what they want it.

    A classic example. The bank of Canada just quietly filled for all rights to its Canadian digital currencies ,even know they just said they had no plan on bringingit in.. Where is the media? Where was the news about its consultation? Not where it should matter most but under the darkness of distractions and quietly brought in.

    Wheres the mainstream of Europe putting in cash restrictions in use of a digital currency in the name to combat money laundering. Or the fact they said they needed their own digital euro so mark Zuckerberg didn't bring out thier own currencies first. Yes they won't take the cash away but you could be in the Grey zone for spending it with set limits and regulations.. Or that Ukraine was the digital pilot program in 2019 with the Dia app. It made things possible for the war it made payments possible.

    Anyways enough of that sorry.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherman View Post
    I think far too many people are brainwashed by the media and we should all know who owns the vast majority of the media is owned and directed by.
    Money talks.
    Aka
    The media

    It's why we see people like gates sit down with key senators .

    Who's more powerful the president of the United States? Or the top organizations who has been making policy decisions longer than any sitting president lol ?



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    Hey fisherman

    It's not brainwashing that would be a far right term . The correct political term is called "social conditioning" ,the new normal, government paid media, government paid influencer's , many articles talk about behavioral change? Raise the price and we will change our habits "behavioral changes" aka social conditioning for all the above.. oh and there is so many more ways for so long .


    But anyway back on topic

    2 navy members are dead as a they had a mishap more missles launched towards a united States ship. No end in sight they don't feel threatened by the usa anymore.

    Apparently a lot of ships are taking the long route and avoiding the area. That's going to put the prices of alot of things up. We all know who it hurts when there are major shipping delays, plus it will cost much more in fuel and other labor hours.

    What is our status there not much talk and I haven't been looking into yet. It's costing us something though.

    Some ships are using Chinese flags to pass through.

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    Last edited by fishfood; January 15th, 2024 at 02:32 PM.

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