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August 28th, 2024, 10:24 AM
#11
Originally Posted by
Cass
I don't see how it's any different from using hounds to run em
That's what I was going to say. With hounds we would sit on the top of a hill and wait for the hound to bring the rabbit around and then "bang". I see no difference with coyotes, except with coyotes the coyote is chasing the dog instead of the dog chasing the rabbit.
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August 28th, 2024 10:24 AM
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August 28th, 2024, 10:41 AM
#12
Originally Posted by
Cass
I hear people say that using decoy dogs isn't legal in Ontario for coyotes but I can't seem to find anything pertaining to this in the regulations. Can someone direct me to the actual regulation stating it please?
From my understanding of this issue, the concern is related to using live coyotes to train hounds in an enclosed area, also the same with training hounds on wild pigs in an enclosed area. I dont run hounds for coyote hunting, only for tracking lost game, so I know nothing of the hunting side
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August 28th, 2024, 07:18 PM
#13
Originally Posted by
Marker
From my understanding of this issue, the concern is related to using live coyotes to train hounds in an enclosed area, also the same with training hounds on wild pigs in an enclosed area. I dont run hounds for coyote hunting, only for tracking lost game, so I know nothing of the hunting side
I would imagine you train recovery dogs using a scent drag or something of that sort. My experience with hunting dogs is you use live animals to train them, ie you might see the upland people on here looking for pigeons or pheasants , houndsmen might train on cottontails or fox, snowshoe hare, or coyotes. In most circumstances its better and safer for everyone, to do that in a government licenced, inspected, and monitored train and trial area.
I'm not aware of training on wild pigs in ontario.
Last edited by swampsinger; August 29th, 2024 at 09:34 PM.
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August 29th, 2024, 01:48 PM
#14
my girl is a great tracker of wounded deer and a great retriever. I have never used live or wounded game to train her. I think good dogs just figure it out, what you want them to do.
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August 29th, 2024, 09:09 PM
#15
Originally Posted by
sabmgb
my girl is a great tracker of wounded deer and a great retriever. I have never used live or wounded game to train her. I think good dogs just figure it out, what you want them to do.
Consider yourself very fortunate to have a dog that just figured it out. My own experience it takes a lot of effort and expense in time and money training hounds to hunt and compete at the highest level and then select the finest to carry the breed forward as a hunting breed. I'm sure the upland people and other hunting breeds do the same. I would imagine the falconry folk face the same challenges.
Just to be clear when I'm hunting, the Beagles and myself work as a team to harvest Game. When I'm Training with the little Hounds I do not harvest any game. I'll emphasize Training is not a blood sport.
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August 29th, 2024, 09:29 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
sabmgb
my girl is a great tracker of wounded deer and a great retriever. I have never used live or wounded game to train her. I think good dogs just figure it out, what you want them to do.
I would imagine if you could trace it the pedigree on your lab probably goes back a hundred years. A shout out to those breeders who put the time and effort in training and selecting for all those years. So maybe its not that your so lucky getting a dog that just figured it out, you were smart enough to purchase a dog from good hunting stock.